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I'm guessing you play GT with a dual shock 3.
Nothing wrong with that the majority do.

I suppose it's the wheel users who see no use for this title. Maybe I'm bring unfair but stretching limited resources only weakens the main dish.

Sony recently said around 99% of vita owners have a PS3. I don't know how they worked that out but that's according to them.
If we go with that logic, releasing GT on PS you would be dismissing 1% of Vita users. Not a crying shame. I very much doubt that anyone bought a Vita specifically for GT.
In the other hand more would have purchased a ps3 for the GT series.

Just my opinion.
I'm a wheel user and I see a use for a PS Vita GT game. I want to get better at using a pad and a Vita version will help me get there.
 
Spagetti69
I'm guessing you play GT with a dual shock 3.
Nothing wrong with that the majority do.
Why do you guess that? I play GT5 with a G27 wheel.

Spagetti69
I suppose it's the wheel users who see no use for this title. Maybe I'm bring unfair but stretching limited resources only weakens the main dish.
If GTVita turns out to be a good game then it won't be a waste of time. It is an opportunity to introduce more gamers into the GT franchise.

If done strategically it could be developed relatively cheaply (use preexisting models for stuff) and could make a profit, which could be used to boost GT5/GT6 development.

Spagetti69
Sony recently said around 99% of vita owners have a PS3. I don't know how they worked that out but that's according to them.
If we go with that logic, releasing GT on PS you would be dismissing 1% of Vita users. Not a crying shame. I very much doubt that anyone bought a Vita specifically for GT.
In the other hand more would have purchased a ps3 for the GT series.

Just my opinion.

Not every person who has a PS3 has GT5. It's just another opportunity to make more wonga. IMO all PD need to do is put GT4 on the Vita.
 
I'm guessing you play GT with a dual shock 3.
Nothing wrong with that the majority do.

I suppose it's the wheel users who see no use for this title. Maybe I'm bring unfair but stretching limited resources only weakens the main dish.

Sony recently said around 99% of vita owners have a PS3. I don't know how they worked that out but that's according to them.
If we go with that logic, releasing GT on PS you would be dismissing 1% of Vita users. Not a crying shame. I very much doubt that anyone bought a Vita specifically for GT.
In the other hand more would have purchased a ps3 for the GT series.

Just my opinion.

Wheel user here who wants a GT on Vita. What does a wheel versus dualshock have to do with wanting the game? I want to be able to take GT with me everywhere I go.
 
mcfizzle
Wheel user here who wants a GT on Vita. What does a wheel versus dualshock have to do with wanting the game? I want to be able to take GT with me everywhere I go.

I don't do thumb stick racers. Sounds elitist I suppose.

Quick question, are you suggesting the vita game be the same as the PS3 version for cross play?

Edit. I firmly believe you'll get it. The bean counters will insist and it's a winner for Sony as I've said in the past.

Good luck with it.
 
Wheel user here who wants a GT on Vita. What does a wheel versus dualshock have to do with wanting the game? I want to be able to take GT with me everywhere I go.

Do you really want to play a driving sim on the go though, with the finicky controls of the Vita? Personally I just don't think a game like Gran Turismo works on a portable, no matter what the controls. On the go, with a portable I'm looking for quick pick up and play fun for a few minutes, not a serious, simulation physics race.

That's just me though.
 
SimonK
Do you really want to play a driving sim on the go though, with the finicky controls of the Vita? Personally I just don't think a game like Gran Turismo works on a portable, no matter what the controls. On the go, with a portable I'm looking for quick pick up and play fun for a few minutes, not a serious, simulation physics race.

That's just me though.

That is exactly what gtpsp was/is.
Start it up, pick a car, do a lap or two of one of a vast number of circuits with a great fun driving model, watch replay. Doesn't get more pick up and play than that, really.

I loved gtpsp, it was incredible at the time, and still is good fun. If the vita was getting a GT I'd seriously consider buying one, then. Surely the controls have to be better than those on the psp.
 
That is exactly what gtpsp was/is.
Start it up, pick a car, do a lap or two of one of a vast number of circuits with a great fun driving model, watch replay. Doesn't get more pick up and play than that, really.

I loved gtpsp, it was incredible at the time, and still is good fun. If the vita was getting a GT I'd seriously consider buying one, then. Surely the controls have to be better than those on the psp.

Yeah but the problem is how long that "simple" game took, and how much it took away from GT5. I don't want to see that happening again with a Vita game and GT6.
 
They will probably play a game like this. GTVita coming out next year around the same time the PS4 is announced. PSVita version has a demo voucher for GT6 on the PS4. This demo will launch with the system. PSVita owners get it a week early. GT6 comes out 1-2 years later.
 
paskowitz
They will probably play a game like this. GTVita coming out next year around the same time the PS4 is announced. PSVita version has a demo voucher for GT6 on the PS4. This demo will launch with the system. PSVita owners get it a week early. GT6 comes out 1-2 years later.

That conflicts with GT6 coming out next Christmas though...
 
They will probably play a game like this. GTVita coming out next year around the same time the PS4 is announced. PSVita version has a demo voucher for GT6 on the PS4. This demo will launch with the system. PSVita owners get it a week early. GT6 comes out 1-2 years later.

So GT6 five years after GT5 again? I really don't think they can afford to that.
 
I don't do thumb stick racers. Sounds elitist I suppose.

Quick question, are you suggesting the vita game be the same as the PS3 version for cross play?

Edit. I firmly believe you'll get it. The bean counters will insist and it's a winner for Sony as I've said in the past.

Good luck with it.

I don't think it's elitist at all. I wouldn't play GT5 nearly as much if I had to go back to using a controller. It's just preference and nothing wrong with that. I'm suggesting it may be the the same game or have some cross play components. Take your game save with you, A-spec at home and on the road, B-spec on the Vita. Those sort of things would work well. Online could work too. Open rooms are filled with punters already, what would it matter if they are using a Vita, DS3, or wheel?

Do you really want to play a driving sim on the go though, with the finicky controls of the Vita? Personally I just don't think a game like Gran Turismo works on a portable, no matter what the controls. On the go, with a portable I'm looking for quick pick up and play fun for a few minutes, not a serious, simulation physics race.

That's just me though.

First question is do you have significant playing time on Vita? Do you own one? How do you know the controls are finicky? I own a Vita and find the sticks to be very nice and responsive, and a huge improvement over the nub of the PSP. Most anyone who owns one will tell you the controls on the Vita are one of it's strongest points. It's almost a Dualschock on the go.

I enjoyed GTPSP for what it was, why wouldn't I enjoy an updated GT on the Vita? To answer your question, yes, I want a GT on Vita. I love playing GT5, even with it's flaws, so much that I want to take it with me everywhere. I did remote play of GT2 on my recent trip and had a great time, a new updated graphics and physics GT would be even better. And I say make it a full blown game, let me decide it I want to do a career or just short quick races in arcade mode.
 
A big IF here but if GT had a livery editor similar to the other game I would love an app of sorts to paint cars on the go. These can be very time consuming and to be able to create designs on my travels would appeal to me.

Maybe next GT though eh.

Not sure if vita could do all of GT5's technical points but if they were to do a cross play GT6/Vita I would hope that the vita wouldn't end up limiting the console version.

Either way I don't envy Kaz with a project like that.

I'm almost certain Vita will get one but I'm not sold on it.
 
SimonK
So GT6 five years after GT5 again? I really don't think they can afford to that.

PD survives on sales of the minor titles.
Like it or not, the minor titles are a part of the business plan.
Christ knows what sony would have forced pd to rush out onto the market had it not been for the likes of Tourist Trophy, Prologue, and psp keeping the money trickling in.

Tracks are all there. Unlike TT2, the cars are all there. It's not like making a whole new game, it would be crazy not to.
 
Anyone that still thinks GT6 will be on PS4 are joking themselves.

I maintain the statement that the next GT will be GTVita and then GT6 will release within one year of the PS4. GT5 will continue to receive updates until something like spec III.
 
PD survives on sales of the minor titles.
Like it or not, the minor titles are a part of the business plan.
Christ knows what sony would have forced pd to rush out onto the market had it not been for the likes of Tourist Trophy, Prologue, and psp keeping the money trickling in.

Tracks are all there. Unlike TT2, the cars are all there. It's not like making a whole new game, it would be crazy not to.

The 'minor' titles might bring in sales but the main GT title is and always will be their main priority and biggest money maker for Sony. That's why I say they can't afford to keep people waiting 4+ years for each one. Who knows how many people got bored of waiting for GT5 and went for the other game, if they do the same again how many more are going to jump ship out of frustration? As long as the competition (and I'm not just talking about that one other game here) keeps pumping out highly rated games PD needs to keep up.
 
DaveTheStalker
PD should outsource GTVita, as top shelf titles, so they can focus GT6.

That's a possibility. Nintendo have had other company's to come in and work on there IP's.

Mixed results though. Camelot fudged Mario tennis but rare did a great job with donkey kong country returns.

Sony have some if the best developers in the buisiness who know the PS3 inside out.
PD, as Amar eluded too may be capped by Sony on Staff levels.

Heaven forbid though if a third party made a GT and it blew PD's efforts out of the water. That would put the cat amongst the PiDgeons.
 
DaveTheStalker
PD should outsource GTVita, as top shelf titles, so they can focus GT6.

I agree 👍

sinbad
PD survives on sales of the minor titles.
Like it or not, the minor titles are a part of the business plan.

The don't survive. I think they made with Prologue and GT5 + DLC enough money to develop GT6 and 7 without any problem.
 
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They also should outsource 3D modeling for GT6, and next "main" GT's (like Turn10 with Forza).

They have to do it smart though. I'd have PD model the Japanese cars, and have an American team do America, and a European team do Europe.
 
That does not make any sense.

How does that not make sense? You got three teams handling three regions, instead of bogging down PD to do all three. That way you have three teams handling their own work load and then come together to put it all in.

I forgot the Aussies by the way, sorry Australia.
 
I think PD work the way they do because Yamauchi is a perfectionist who doesn't like things to get out of his reach. Just an assumption.
 
I think PD work the way they do because Yamauchi is a perfectionist who doesn't like things to get out of his reach. Just an assumption.
Doubt it. It's not that hard to set standards, right? I mean, KY can take a peep at what a team is doing, and determine whether or not they are doing things to his standards.
 
A Vita game is a waste of ressources and a racing game should be on a console with the option to add a wheel.

I don't want that PD has to work on more games and make a unfinished GT again, because i wNt that GT6 blow us away.

What Sony done with GT5:
1. Sony forced them to do a PSP game
-> Not 100% ressources for GT5
2. Sony didn't gave them 2 more years.
-> unfinished game

Again with the "Resources" thing? Exactly how hard is it to port a simplified GT4 to a PSP? Did Sony make them work on it? without a doubt (just to push a device that as far as I can work out was completely useless) but I doubt a simplified port is THE major reason why GT5 didn't turn out well. Also, I'm sorry but the "a racing game should be on a console" Mindset is both ignorant and elitist sounding. Honestly, its overly xenophonic and once again, doesn't take into consideration that unlike GT PSP, this could incorporate the Console bound GT. I wouldn't have to wait until I got home to play GT, I could save it to the device and play it on the go, non stop gameplay. I could continue to win races in GT mode and collect cars, then save it to the cloud and come home and continue on the PS3 and show off my new rides online. All I see is negative thinking by people who are still severly misguided and sorely mistaken by how GT PSP was the biggest reason GT5 turned out the way it was.
 
It's not like he can look over the shoulder of every modeler out there making cars for them. So what will happen is any models that aren't up to snuff get "sent back" to be done again, and by then a whole host of other models in production will probably also be sub-par. Which means wasted time. Then everyone's left rushing to get things done in time. There are so many other ways that this could go wrong - ask anyone who has ever contracted anyone to do anything. If you've got the resources, it's often best to do it yourself.

Outsourcing is not some bolt-on, golden method to get what you want done faster, you've got to know what your doing, and the contractor had better well know what their job is, too, otherwise you're both going to suffer. If PD have no experience with such things, it might end up being down to Sony, who will probably have the tremendous urge to pare everything down for the sake of cost economy.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, just that everyone had better know the potential consequences.
 
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