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I just want to see:

Demo (updated)

Trailer

Release date

Feature list

I want the same.. but in diffrent order..

Most important to me is the Feature list, later i can have the Trailer, Demo, Release date after finishing demo. Thats all. I do not mind the long wait as long I have FULL feature list! But waiting in the dark sucks big time!
 
The mindset is gain money and lots of it

In all honesty, I don't think money is the primary mindset. The biggest ones IMO will be proving to the industry, to their competitors and to third parties, that GT5 can match the 10million+ sales that previous installments have managed; that GT is still a force to be reckoned with, that the PS3 can be a home to a 10million+ selling franchise, but most importantly, that Sony's most important franchise can still help sell consoles.

Because, rightly or wrongly, people are doubting that GT can be the force of the past, and I'm expecting Sony to go out of their way to market GT5 heavily...and marketing costs a lot of money, which will probably eat into a chunk of money that GT5 makes. But, for me, money isn't of primary importance; the things I listed above are more important.
 
In all honesty, I don't think money is the primary mindset.

*scratches head*

It's a business, after-all. We're talking about Sony.



Because, rightly or wrongly, people are doubting that GT can be the force of the past, and I'm expecting Sony to go out of their way to market GT5 heavily...and marketing costs a lot of money, which will probably eat into a chunk of money that GT5 makes. But, for me, money isn't of primary importance; the things I listed above are more important.

Yes, and it will likely begin soon. I hope...... Or else we're still amidst a long wait.
 
I think PDs mindset is to create a true to life looking vehicles. As well top notch car driving/racing simulator on the consoles, to have its name as the leading SIMULATOR in the market.

Sure if I was creating Racing games, Sure I want money, but as well I want to be the BEST OF THE BEST and have my name come out first as soon someone mentions SIMULATOR.
 
I want the same.. but in diffrent order..

Most important to me is the Feature list, later i can have the Trailer, Demo, Release date after finishing demo. Thats all. I do not mind the long wait as long I have FULL feature list! But waiting in the dark sucks big time!


My list was not in order, though.

And if I had put them in order of importance, then yes, a features list is #1. It has to be! Followed by a release date, then the demo, and finishing off with a brand new trailer.
 
I want the same.. but in diffrent order..

Most important to me is the Feature list, later i can have the Trailer, Demo, Release date after finishing demo. Thats all. I do not mind the long wait as long I have FULL feature list! But waiting in the dark sucks big time!

Why are you so backwards? Why wouldn't you want something that you can put your hands on first? Give me the demo so that I can forget about all the other things til the game comes out.
Having the feature list would be the worst things. It would make the wait so much more agonizing.
 
*scratches head*

It's a business, after-all. We're talking about Sony.

But the PS3 business is far larger than GT5 alone. Sony need to prove to third parties that GT5 can sell heavily, so as to show that going with the PS3 can work well; that the PS3 can help be a big, perhaps the largest, software seller for third parties. It will be that that creates money for Sony i.e. the increased royalties from third parties coming from more game sales over the life of the PS3.

After all, it's not about creating money in one lump sum, it's about sustaining income over a longer period.
 
Why are you so backwards? Why wouldn't you want something that you can put your hands on first? Give me the demo so that I can forget about all the other things til the game comes out.
Having the feature list would be the worst things. It would make the wait so much more agonizing.

If you're calling him backwards, then you're calling me backwards, too (since he and I agreed). And you know 2 on 1 wins (especially when I'm not on your team) :)👍

But seriously, I'd rather know what's in the game before another demo. We'll get to see all we want once the game is released. Honestly, do you want to see another video of Tokyo or do you want to know if there is a livery editor?
 
Why are you so backwards? Why wouldn't you want something that you can put your hands on first? Give me the demo so that I can forget about all the other things til the game comes out.
Having the feature list would be the worst things. It would make the wait so much more agonizing.

But that's the point of releasing a feature list FIRST!! Get the anticipation to build up into a feeding frenzy, then watch the consoles (and GT5 packages) move faster than hotcakes at a fat camp when the game is released!!
 
But that's the point of releasing a feature list FIRST!! Get the anticipation to build up into a feeding frenzy, then watch the consoles (and GT5 packages) move faster than hotcakes at a fat camp when the game is released!!

They gave us the online feature list something like 2 years ago. Now no one wants to believe anything Kaz says or does because of recent happenings. So what is that feature list giving us now except doubts? All of us will buy gt5 whether we have the features revealed before the release or not.
Anticipation is good for soony and their pockets. Demos, videos, and screen are good for me.
 
Well, I have to disagree for the most part. It doesn't have to reveal ALL things, but it has to reveal something worthy. If SOONY wants to move consoles, GT5 is possibly the best way to do that. In order to do that, hype needs to be generated. Other than us lunatic fans, many people don't yet care or even know a single thing about the game. Look again at us insanely passionate fans; how much do we (as, GT nuts, know?) Not much at all; so take into account the average skeptical gamer and how little they know.

Because of SOONY's 3D push, I expect to see GT5 3D. And that can only bode well for GT5 news.


In conclusion: SOONY wants to begin marketing GT5 this June, the middle of the year. SO why not shed some light onto what GT5 will feature? People want to know what it will have.

If some could Please take the time to Read my potentially large post...

I dont understand, What is there to be said?
I LOVE Gran turismo, and Always have. But that doesn't stop me from saying that there is pretty much not a lot of things they can say. For example.
What can they release info on?
They can release the amount of cars,
They can release the amount of tracks,
They can release the new brands coming to the series,
They can announce if there will be online, multiplayer
They can announce damage
They can announce Weather, and or night racing
They can announce if it will have a new engine,
They can announce when it is released.
ETC.

Frankly They have announced Atleast 950 cars,
20 locations and 70 tracks, and a street track (Tokyo)
Ferrari, Lambhorghini, Buggati are making appearances, as well as hybrids.
Online capability with up to (12 or 16?) players. and local 2 player battle.
The game will feature damage both mechanically and cosmetically
The game will have weather options and night racing
The game was built from scratch with new code and engine.
But sadly, they haven't released when they will release it.

In all honesty, I would love to get even more info, thats why I check gt planet everyday. I would love for them to confirm the track editor, And show off a livery editor. But I guess those things aren't really "Standard" With a racing game, So nobody can really beg to see that kind of info. Its just a luxury and a bonus. So Far Polyphony digital have announced alot of information on the game. And theres not very much to be said.

Think about it this way, There weren't many changes from gt3 to gt4, it added more cars, improved graphics, added a feature or two, added more tracks, and improved physics. Dont expect for a whole new revamped Gt mode with a revolutionary map UI and Different style championships.
Every Gt is essentially the same, just expanded on.
(Im not in any way against gran turismo. Its my favourite racing game. Just my insight on it, and in my opinion- the reality of it.)
 
They gave us the online feature list something like 2 years ago. Now no one wants to believe anything Kaz says or does because of recent happenings. So what is that feature list giving us now except doubts? All of us will buy gt5 whether we have the features revealed before the release or not.
Anticipation is good for soony and their pockets. Demos, videos, and screen are good for me.

Actually, they haven't given all the features because we don't know what every single car is going to be!! That's what I'm getting at.....sure, we can have info about weather, damage, DLC, blah blah blah.....but it's knowing what the full list of cars will be that gets the people drooling over and over again....that's what I want. ;)
 
Actually, they haven't given all the features because we don't know what every single car is going to be!! That's what I'm getting at.....sure, we can have info about weather, damage, DLC, blah blah blah.....but it's knowing what the full list of cars will be that gets the people drooling over and over again....that's what I want. ;)

They already said that all the cars in gt4 will be in it (assuming updated models, in terms of year). Still though, Why do you think they would ever release a list of 1000 cars that will be in the game, it would defenitely ruin it, for certain. But I have an idea, go watch "mimaximax" 's videos on youtube, Ive seen ferrari enzos, toyota ft-86s, super gt cars, mclarens, and plenty of the cars that will be included in the game.. Go drool over that
(Ces demo)
 
If some could Please take the time to Read my potentially large post...

I dont understand, What is there to be said?
I LOVE Gran turismo, and Always have. But that doesn't stop me from saying that there is pretty much not a lot of things they can say. For example.
What can they release info on?
They can release the amount of cars,
They can release the amount of tracks,
They can release the new brands coming to the series,
They can announce if there will be online, multiplayer
They can announce damage
They can announce Weather, and or night racing
They can announce if it will have a new engine,
They can announce when it is released.
ETC.

Frankly They have announced Atleast 950 cars,
20 locations and 70 tracks, and a street track (Tokyo)
Ferrari, Lambhorghini, Buggati are making appearances, as well as hybrids.
Online capability with up to (12 or 16?) players. and local 2 player battle.
The game will feature damage both mechanically and cosmetically
The game will have weather options and night racing
The game was built from scratch with new code and engine.
But sadly, they haven't released when they will release it.

In all honesty, I would love to get even more info, thats why I check gt planet everyday. I would love for them to confirm the track editor, And show off a livery editor. But I guess those things aren't really "Standard" With a racing game, So nobody can really beg to see that kind of info. Its just a luxury and a bonus. So Far Polyphony digital have announced alot of information on the game. And theres not very much to be said.

Think about it this way, There weren't many changes from gt3 to gt4, it added more cars, improved graphics, added a feature or two, added more tracks, and improved physics. Dont expect for a whole new revamped Gt mode with a revolutionary map UI and Different style championships.
Every Gt is essentially the same, just expanded on.
(Im not in any way against gran turismo. Its my favourite racing game. Just my insight on it, and in my opinion- the reality of it.)

That's one hell of a post. I give you that.

I'm not sure how to attack this, though. But I will surely try. Well, there is actually a lot we do not know. Let us establish that. That is purely fact. All of the info we've gotten is pretty general. But now it's time to for Sony to get specific:

950 cars?: Which models?

950? Which other manufacturers?

70 layouts?: Which ones? Returning tracks?

Weather: What type? Dynamic? (show us, please)

Cosmetic damage: How deep? (show us, please)

Mechanical damage: How deep?

Night tracks: Dynamic or stagnant?

Livery editor: In or out?

Customization: How far? What parts?

GT Mode: What's inside?

GT Auto: In or out? What can we do?

License Tests: For NASCAR and WRC, too?

WRC: Video, please. Tracks, please.

NASCAR: Video, please.

Online functionality: Preview, please.

GT PSP transfer: All cars? Limit?

GT5: Prologue: All cars? Limit?

Track Editor: Show us, please.

Interior damage: Show us, please.

Cock-pit views for all cars? Yes or no?

Limited Edition GT5?

Release date: Now or never?

I can go on. But I think you're seeing a trend. You may think we know a lot. You may think they cannot show us any more. But that could not be any more false. GT5 is an iceberg. We see the tip and that is all. We can only infer how deep it is beneath the waters.
 
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Why are you so backwards? Why wouldn't you want something that you can put your hands on first?

Are you always so NEGATIVE twords me and others?

lets see

If you're calling him backwards, then you're calling me backwards, too (since he and I agreed). And you know 2 on 1 wins

2 VS 1

But that's the point of releasing a feature list FIRST!! !

3 vs 1

maybe you are backwards dave...



I do not care about DEMOS, Demos are very small part of the game.. a feature list can explain how much damage can cars take, if night racing is a live in game cycle or is it just an option for each race track. Some new livery editor, movie/photo mode, etc etc. Feature list can give some idea about what online options you have etc etc. I wanna wait with something to look forward to.

Because NOTHING so far I hear of GT5 excites me as much. Sure we know Damage and Night racing is in, but recently KAZ did not make it official that ONE big hit ends the race. He never stated ever about how FIX system will work if you damage your car. He never mention about in game night and day cycle, we just know there is night. GT4 had night too, but it was very disappointing that we only have it on one circuit, as well it was never a cycle, just an option.
 
They already said that all the cars in gt4 will be in it (assuming updated models, in terms of year). Still though, Why do you think they would ever release a list of 1000 cars that will be in the game, it would defenitely ruin it, for certain. But I have an idea, go watch "mimaximax" 's videos on youtube, Ive seen ferrari enzos, toyota ft-86s, super gt cars, mclarens, and plenty of the cars that will be included in the game.. Go drool over that
(Ces demo)

Yeah if you include the GT4 cars, but there are more cars than that, and the videos only show about 5-10% of what is coming out from the newer cars.

Plus, I've seen enough of the CES, TGS and E3 demos to make me bored, not to mention mimaximax's vids.
 
maybe you are backwards dave...

Well, to be fair, I wasn't really attacking him. I already did that a few months back. dave just needs a good challenge. So if you can manage to do that, you will balance/cancel his strong personality. He and I have done that, so we don't argue anymore. :dunce:👍

Well, we still may disagree, but it's seen as competitive fun.
 
Well, to be fair, I wasn't really attacking him. I already did that a few months back. dave just needs a good challenge. So if you do that, you will balance his personality out. He and I have done that, so we don't argue anymore. :dunce:👍

Oh yeah I know dave that he loves to argue, but since he call me BACKWARDS first, I had to fight back a bit.. an "eye for an eye"
👍 no hard feelings by the way
 
That's one hell of a post. I give you that.

I think this is a good base to know more, due to the lack of what we know now. It shows how little we know. It's not like it's a secret developed game that hasn't started production yet, it should already be done, or close enough done that we could and should know the details.
 
That's one hell of a post. I give you that.

I'm not sure how to attack this, though. But I will surely try. Well, there is actually a lot we do not know. Let us establish that. That is purely fact. All of the info we've gotten is pretty general. But now it's time to for Sony get specific:

950 cars?: Which models?

950? Which other manufacturers?

70 layouts?: Which ones? Returning tracks?

Weather: What type? Dynamic? (show us, please)

Cosmetic damage: How deep? (show us, please)

Mechanical damage: How deep?

Night tracks: Dynamic or stagnant?

Livery editor: In or out?

Customization: How far? What parts?

GT Mode: What's inside?

GT Auto: In or out? What can we do?

License Tests: For NASCAR and WRC, too?

WRC: Video, please. Tracks, please.

NASCAR: Video, please.

Online functionality: Preview, please.

GT PSP transfer: All cars? Limit?

GT5: Prologue: All cars? Limit?

Interior damage: Show us, please.

Cock-pit views for all cars? Yes or no?

Release date: Now or never?

I can go on. But I think you're seeing a trend. You may think we know a lot. You may think they cannot show us any more. But that could not be any more false. GT5 is an iceberg. We see the tip and that is all. We can only infer how deep it is beneath the waters.

Heheheh, Well I'll sure give you that, nicely rebutted, But again.
Its pretty good information, I for one, Would not to see a list of nearly 1000 cars (Because It would 1. take a long time for me to cover, possibly make my eyes pop out. 2. because It would ruin the game, I wouldn't get the same sense of surprise and excitement about all the cars.), I would However like a final list of the manufacturers, that could still keep me in wonder of what exact models they put in, and what I can hope for.
Same goes for the tracks,
tracks are tracks, they shouldn't release every single one. Maybe a couple fan favourites, for hype. (Trial mountain, and top gear track footage. That should be sufficient)
WRC, We've had some sort of rally in gt games before, We know it exists in gt5, again, what else do we need to know. there not gona have some sort of a twist we need to know about.
Nascar on the other hand, we haven't seen (and although I like Wrc better than nascar) but the fact that, They cant really provide extremely exciting new footage for dozens of cars going round an oval track, It doesn't seem necessary (Although alot more necessary then WRC)
Also, as I was saying, Gt mode is gona have regular things in store. Infact, I dont want it to change. But so far, The damage is a bit unseen, and the whole controversy over the premium cars a while ago should be cleared up. The car transfer info SHOULD be released, thats the one I really agree on (Other than the release date), It doesn't spoil anything, and can get people to purchase prologue or psp If they didnt already have one (Getting sales up for sony).
Again, the livery editor should be treated as a "Bonus", And wasn't very necessary to begin with (If they do have it).

Mainly however, We do have all the basic information that essentially makes a racing game. (a good one too)
950 cars, 70 tracks, damage, Nascar-WRC-super Gt, night, weather, and last, Incredible graphics (That we already know :sly: ,)
Nfs, or midnight club dont release a full list of every car, before release, do they? Nor does Forza and other racing games. You cant expect everything.
Regardless of specification, I know 950 cars, 70 tracks, possible cockpit, night racing, and WRC+Super gt, Already have me sold. PD can even release it on a linear list style format (Like we saw on Gt5.Prologue), as dissapointing as it was, the features rack up the value,Not to mention a track editor (If)!
 
Mainly however, We do have all the basic information that essentially makes a racing game. (a good one too)
950 cars, 70 tracks, damage, Nascar-WRC-super Gt, night, weather, and last, Incredible graphics (That we already know :sly: ,)

Yes, we do have the basic information that essentially makes a racing game: Cars, tracks, physics, etc.

But now the question is: How much farther will GT5 expand to make itself THE racing game?
I think PD has taken a good look at other successful racing series and have borrowed some, if not all of their traits.

And there you have it: No longer is Gran Turismo a driving simulator; rather, it becomes the everything driving experience. From the track to the garage, to the tuning shop; the cars will now be ours to own. Not simply just an on-track, race-only experience that we've been so accustomed to.
 
That's one hell of a post. I give you that.

I'm not sure how to attack this, though. But I will surely try. Well, there is actually a lot we do not know. Let us establish that. That is purely fact. All of the info we've gotten is pretty general. But now it's time to for Sony to get specific:

950 cars?: Which models?

950? Which other manufacturers?

70 layouts?: Which ones? Returning tracks?

Weather: What type? Dynamic? (show us, please)

Cosmetic damage: How deep? (show us, please)

Mechanical damage: How deep?

Night tracks: Dynamic or stagnant?

Livery editor: In or out?

Customization: How far? What parts?

GT Mode: What's inside?

GT Auto: In or out? What can we do?

License Tests: For NASCAR and WRC, too?

WRC: Video, please. Tracks, please.

NASCAR: Video, please.

Online functionality: Preview, please.

GT PSP transfer: All cars? Limit?

GT5: Prologue: All cars? Limit?

Track Editor: Show us, please.

Interior damage: Show us, please.

Cock-pit views for all cars? Yes or no?

Limited Edition GT5?

Release date: Now or never?

I can go on. But I think you're seeing a trend. You may think we know a lot. You may think they cannot show us any more. But that could not be any more false. GT5 is an iceberg. We see the tip and that is all. We can only infer how deep it is beneath the waters.

Yes, we do have the basic information that essentially makes a racing game: Cars, tracks, physics, etc.

But now the question is: How much farther will GT5 expand to make itself THE racing game?
I think PD has taken a good look at other successful racing series and have borrowed some, if not all of their traits.

And there you have it: No longer is Gran Turismo a driving simulator; rather, it becomes the everything driving experience. From the track to the garage, to the tuning shop; the cars will now be ours to own. Not simply just an on-track, race-only experience that we've been so accustomed to.

+1 to it all. Thanks for saying what I was too lazy to type SrRd in rebuttal to mani. :cool:
 
I'm not really sure how old or new this is, but never seen before actual release time period posted on the Gran Turismo US site
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/products/gt5/

All I've ever seen before has always said TBA, and although it doesn't hold much water, I think they are fairly confident in their own work that they will release it in 2010, seeing how they made an update to the US site and changed it!
 
It's OK having the US site say 2010, but we had it in writing that March 2010 would be the date it landed in Japan as well. Unfortunately, even if we are given a release date at E3, a lot of us are going to be extremely sceptical about it until we get very close to the date, hear it has gone gold etc. Still, I'd rather have the estimate, than not! ;)
 
Has anyone seen the the Test Drive Unlimited 2 trailer?
Their car list features Koenigsegg and Gumpert.

I hope Kaz won't disappoint up with at least these two manufactures.
 
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