GT5 Master Car List

Matrixi
There is a saying; "Those who know GT-R's can't explain. Those who don't - cannot understand." which I think is fairly accurate. I'll try to have a go at explaining anyhow.

I adore them for their "casual" presence, Ferrari equivalent performance, and the price to speed ratio. There is just no other 20 year old car that I've driven to give the same kind of feedback in what you are doing behind the wheel. Having always loved Q-cars, something that looks dull and gray but can beat a Corvette or a Ferrari costing 6 to 10 times as much is great fun. 👍
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Thank you! Not to take anything away of your answer, but just curious:

How about Lotus Carlton/Omega EVO500 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Carlton

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Sierra Cosworth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sierra_RS_Cosworth

not in the game.

Is Skyline really so much better than these as a q-car or in power-buck ratio?
 
Famine
When you ask "who cares about getting the game hours earlier or whatever?" and people will queue for a week or pay a 20% premium to get the game a few hours earlier, yes.
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When you answer "they bring out the game here 5 hours ahead of anywhere else" when they didn't even bother to get their cars in there, no.
 
lift off
When you answer "they bring out the game here 5 hours ahead of anywhere else" when they didn't even bother to get their cars in there, no.
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Your quote and your response are unconnected. I'm also confused that PD "didn't even bother to get their cars in there" (Europe's?) when there's more than 300 of them on the list.
 
Famine
Your quote and your response are unconnected. I'm also confused that PD "didn't even bother to get their cars in there" (Europe's?) when there's more than 300 of them on the list.
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Do I really need to spell "recent European hot hatches, which are an important part of automotive industry and history (not only) in Europe, and will be missed" for you again?

Really, stop acting smart and playing with words. In the end, you are saying that having the game hours earlier is more important than having these cars in it, which is ridiculous.
 
lift off
Do I really need to spell "recent European hot hatches, which are an important part of automotive industry and history (not only) in Europe, and will be missed" for you again?
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You can, but it won't really help. You're complaining that "x" car you like isn't in. Great. "x" car I like isn't in. "x" car I like is in. Someone else hates the former, not the latter. Deal with it.

lift off
Really, stop acting smart and playing with words. In the end, you are saying that having the game hours earlier is more important than having these cars in it, which is ridiculous.
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No I'm not - that's your unfounded interpretation of it. I'm pointing out that in your urge to say how "screwed over" Europe are, you've not noticed that everyone is getting the same car list (everyone is missing the European hatches, not just us) and Europe is not only getting the game earlier but has cool special editions no-one else gets. We're the least screwed over.
 
pettersg
Anyone want to explain why the list is complete, yet only contains 906 cars? 👍

is it becouse there are over 100 cars that havent been revealed yet? :D
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About a hundred cars are missing because I removed all the Race Modified cars and all the cars that were duplicates like MX-5 '94 (US), MX-5 '94 (EU), MX-5 '94 (J).
They are basically the same cars so I removed them to get a more realistic impression of the Car List ;)
 
Ch0zander
Is Skyline really so much better than these as a q-car or in power-buck ratio?
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Yes. You can get three R32's for the price of one Lotus Omega, which is still simply a hopped up Opel/Vauxhall. Give the Skyline exhaust and intake mods, remove the factory boost restriction and you're already packing more WHP than a Lotus Omega. Sierras aren't even near the performance you get out of a GT-R. ;)
 
I've only driven the one GT-R, so I couldn't say.

I'd guess at "some stickers and a crapload of abuse" though.
 
Matrixi
Yes. You can get three R32's for the price of one Lotus Omega, which is still simply a hopped up Opel/Vauxhall. Give the Skyline exhaust and intake mods, remove the factory boost restriction and you're already packing more WHP than a Lotus Omega. Sierras aren't even near the performance you get out of a GT-R. ;)
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Gt-Rs aren't that cheap it's something like 13k to get a decent one and with your mods it's 1-2k more and what stops you taking the boost restriction off the omega? It has a durable enough engine to handle it. But in Finland the best bang for buck car has to be Saab 900 and 9000 with the turbo engines. You get almost 400 hp just with modifying the ecu and the engines are the most durable ever made in a factory car. (Talladega tests for proof) and they cost only third of the price of a R32 gt-r. With the spare 10k compared you can reinforce the clutch and get a bigger turbo, intercooler, oil pump, upgrade fuel injectors, exhaust and air filter. Then you get already to 550+ hp. It will rape any stock gt-r with the same price.
 
Ch0zander
Gt-Rs aren't that cheap it's something like 13k to get a decent one and with your mods it's 1-2k more and what stops you taking the boost restriction off the omega? It has a durable enough engine to handle it. But in Finland the best bang for buck car has to be Saab 900 and 9000 with the turbo engines. You get almost 400 hp just with modifying the ecu and the engines are the most durable ever made in a factory car. (Talladega tests for proof) and they cost only third of the price of a R32 gt-r. With the spare 10k compared you can reinforce the clutch and get a bigger turbo, intercooler, oil pump, upgrade fuel injectors, exhaust and air filter. Then you get already to 550+ hp. It will rape any stock gt-r with the same price.
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GT-Rs in the US are approaching $90K for the base version with some amenities. A properly tuned GT Mustang + modifications might equal a GT-R's power and surprisingly be lighter, but the GT-R will still be viewed more favorably due to what it comes with.
 
Blitz24
GT-Rs in the US are approaching $90K for the base version with some amenities. A properly tuned GT Mustang + modifications might equal a GT-R's power and surprisingly be lighter, but the GT-R will still be viewed more favorably due to what it comes with.
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ahem... r32, not r35
 
Ch0zander
Gt-Rs aren't that cheap it's something like 13k to get a decent one and with your mods it's 1-2k more and what stops you taking the boost restriction off the omega? It has a durable enough engine to handle it. But in Finland the best bang for buck car has to be Saab 900 and 9000 with the turbo engines. You get almost 400 hp just with modifying the ecu and the engines are the most durable ever made in a factory car. (Talladega tests for proof) and they cost only third of the price of a R32 gt-r. With the spare 10k compared you can reinforce the clutch and get a bigger turbo, intercooler, oil pump, upgrade fuel injectors, exhaust and air filter. Then you get already to 550+ hp. It will rape any stock gt-r with the same price.
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There's an R32 right now going for 10k, another one was sold a month ago for under 9k, both with freshly rebuilt engines, registered and ready to go. Omegas didn't even come with a factory installed easy to remove boost restrictor, since they didn't need to conform to the japanese manufacturers 276 HP gentlemans agreement. I don't really count them as bang for the buck Q-cars anyhow, they are as rare as unicorns and equally expensive.

Now, 550 HP in a FWD Saab.. are we really having this conversation? I'm slightly beginning to question your expertise on the subject now. I can also guarantee you, that you are not going to get 400 horsies out from a stock Saab turbo (or the injectors..) by simply flashing the ECU. Claiming otherwise is borderline lunacy.

You can always prove me wrong around the tracks next summer, I'm gladly up for it. :) Anyhow, you seem to have got your mind made about Skylines already and nothing doesn't seem to change it, so I won't continue to derail this thread any further with offtopic.
 
Matrixi
There's an R32 right now going for 10k, another one was sold a month ago for under 9k, both with freshly rebuilt engines, registered and ready to go. Omegas didn't even come with a factory installed easy to remove boost restrictor, since they didn't need to conform to the japanese manufacturers 276 HP gentlemans agreement. I don't really count them as bang for the buck Q-cars anyhow, they are as rare as unicorns and equally expensive.

Now, 550 HP in a FWD Saab.. are we really having this conversation? I'm slightly beginning to question your expertise on the subject now. I can also guarantee you, that you are not going to get 400 horsies out from a stock Saab turbo (or the injectors..) by simply flashing the ECU. Claiming otherwise is borderline lunacy.

You can always prove me wrong around the tracks next summer, I'm gladly up for it. :) Anyhow, you seem to have got your mind made about Skylines already and nothing doesn't seem to change it, so I won't continue to derail this thread any further with offtopic.
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Agree we are going off topic now, but my question in the first place was do 40 Skylines really deserve a place in the game as the cars I mentioned are not even in the game.

And you are right, they are rare and expensive compared, but still cheap against a porsche etc.

On the saab matter though. I doubt it first for myself too, but it is possible to the limit of the fuel injectors. Not sure the exact amount, but its something like 360-380 hp from the 2.3T.
And 550hp saabs are just for starters. I' ve seen ones with 800 and heard of some having over 1000hp. And how about the pike's peak viggen? It's based on the same 2.3T engine. Yes it id fwd, but isn't a problem on straights, where the power is needed. Saab is a frequent brand on the drag strip's top speed runs. And still it's not in our beloved game.

On the Skyline prices I'm used to check them from esv.fi and right now they have 2 r32s on sale for 9k BEFORE taxes and registration. And as I stated earlier I would like to find the beauty of the Skylines as I don't see any reason right now of Paying more for a skyline than getting a Sti. I think boxer sounds better and has equal performance but a
more advanced 4wd system. Looks are equal.

Edit: I can't afford right now to tune as I study, but I can promise you that in maximum ten years time you'll spot me on the tracks with my 800+ hp Saab 9000 Aero. Running on pure ethanol of course.
 
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Hey, I know a lot of people want proper F1 races and obtaining them for GT5 I doubt will happen unless it already has. Wouldn't it be easier, and acceptable if PD, took the original F/series cars from GT3 and updated them to say. . . premium? I mean for the most part they could recycle some parts like the steering wheel (not always just on maybe on or two.) Personally I would be quite happy. I don't even remember how many there were, but hey, those in combination with an F2007, an F10 and the PDFGT, I would imagine you'd have a pretty nice range of varying capability F1 cars.
 
Enciah
I think it's the 225 hp version

Bumper and wheels are different from the 2.0 16V.
unfortunatly it's not the R26 (230 hp, chassis improvement, 3 doors, stikers)

megane rs phase 1

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megane rs phase 2 ("fog light"?? incoporated in bumper)

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megane R26

megane R26-R (FR world fastest stock car on the nordshleife)

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isn't it FF? I think it is.
 
Ch0zander
Gt-Rs aren't that cheap it's something like 13k to get a decent one and with your mods it's 1-2k more and what stops you taking the boost restriction off the omega? It has a durable enough engine to handle it. But in Finland the best bang for buck car has to be Saab 900 and 9000 with the turbo engines. You get almost 400 hp just with modifying the ecu and the engines are the most durable ever made in a factory car. (Talladega tests for proof) and they cost only third of the price of a R32 gt-r. With the spare 10k compared you can reinforce the clutch and get a bigger turbo, intercooler, oil pump, upgrade fuel injectors, exhaust and air filter. Then you get already to 550+ hp. It will rape any stock gt-r with the same price.
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What you don't realise though is that the R32 GT-R has much more to it than just being a fast, cheap, reliable car. When people see a a GT-R they know it's got power to be used but seriously living here in Australia I have never seen a SAAB with more than 400hp and no more than 250hp in a 9000, also they look like crap ( 9000's ) and are front wheel drive now I see where your coming from but you just can't compare a R32 GT-R to a SAAB 9000 it's just wrong i promise you 2 weeks ago I got offered to buy a SAAB 9000 CSE for $250. I'm not trying to dis SAAB or anything like that I like SAAB but you just can't compare the 2 I mean yeah over here we pay $12k minimum for a standard R32 GT-R but there's no other car that's just as quick, there's no other car as beautiful as GT-R, and seriously how could you forget GT-R racing history the R32 pretty much conquered every race it entered until it was banned.
 
a.r.a.b_2nv
What you don't realise though is that the R32 GT-R has much more to it than just being a fast, cheap, reliable car. When people see a a GT-R they know it's got power to be used but seriously living here in Australia I have never seen a SAAB with more than 400hp and no more than 250hp in a 9000, also they look like crap ( 9000's ) and are front wheel drive now I see where your coming from but you just can't compare a R32 GT-R to a SAAB 9000 it's just wrong i promise you 2 weeks ago I got offered to buy a SAAB 9000 CSE for $250. I'm not trying to dis SAAB or anything like that I like SAAB but you just can't compare the 2 I mean yeah over here we pay $12k minimum for a standard R32 GT-R but there's no other car that's just as quick, there's no other car as beautiful as GT-R, and seriously how could you forget GT-R racing history the R32 pretty much conquered every race it entered until it was banned.
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I'm thinking of moving there if you get them for 250. You don't know what mistake you made by not buying it. I understand that SAAB isn't appreciated there, but hey my family has been part of manufacturing that car.
And we were not comparing 9000 against a R32, but against Lotus Carlton/Opel Omega EVO500 and Ford Sierra Cosworth and I'm pretty sure they at least equal the reputation of the R32.
 
It is FF, and it's the fastest FF production unmodified car at the Nordschleife. The GT5 version looks pretty good and should make for awesome modding though.
 
Fido_le_muet
About a hundred cars are missing because I removed all the Race Modified cars and all the cars that were duplicates like MX-5 '94 (US), MX-5 '94 (EU), MX-5 '94 (J).
They are basically the same cars so I removed them to get a more realistic impression of the Car List ;)
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Good idea.

Here's another impression of the Car List -- a view of the number of variants of particular models. This was generated from the full 1033-car list using a basic list filter, so in general, each entry may contain multiple generations, market-specific models, and racing versions.

Code: 
 1  Skyline/GT-R          69
 2  MX-5/Eunos/Roadster   34
 3  RX-7                  32
 4  NSX                   30
 5  Lancer/Evolution      27
 6  S2000                 27
 7  Impreza/WRX           26
 8  Civic/Integra         25
 9  Silvia/SX             23
10  3000GT/GTO            20
11  350Z/370Z/G35         16
12  Corvette              15
13  Celica                14
14  240Z/280Z/300ZX       12
15  Supra                 11
16  Camaro                 9
17  Elise                  9
18  Legacy                 9
19  MR2/MR-S               9
20  FTO                    8
21  Viper                  8
22  Ford GT                7
23  M-B SL                 7
24  R8/R10                 7
25  RX-8                   7
26  Mini                   6
27  Mustang                6
28  Esprit                 5
29  Focus                  5
30  Golf                   5
31  M3                     5
32  Prelude                5
33  Vitz                   5
34  Zonda                  5
    Total                508

All other models have 4 or fewer variants. We can quibble about whether particular entries should have been split or combined (I know a JGTC car bears essentially no resemblance to its production counterpart), but the conclusion remains: a few dozen nameplates account for about half of GT5's thousand cars.
 
twohoos
Good idea.

Here's another impression of the Car List -- a view of the number of variants of particular models. This was generated from the full 1033-car list using a basic list filter, so in general, each entry may contain multiple generations, market-specific models, and racing versions.

Code: 
 1  Skyline/GT-R          69
 2  MX-5/Eunos/Roadster   34
 3  RX-7                  32
 4  NSX                   30
 5  Lancer/Evolution      27
 6  S2000                 27
 7  Impreza/WRX           26
 8  Civic/Integra         25
 9  Silvia/SX             23
10  3000GT/GTO            20
11  350Z/370Z/G35         16
12  Corvette              15
13  Celica                14
14  240Z/280Z/300ZX       12
15  Supra                 11
16  Camaro                 9
17  Elise                  9
18  Legacy                 9
19  MR2/MR-S               9
20  FTO                    8
21  Viper                  8
22  Ford GT                7
23  M-B SL                 7
24  R8/R10                 7
25  RX-8                   7
26  Mini                   6
27  Mustang                6
28  Esprit                 5
29  Focus                  5
30  Golf                   5
31  M3                     5
32  Prelude                5
33  Vitz                   5
34  Zonda                  5
    Total                508

All other models have 4 or fewer variants. We can quibble about whether particular entries should have been split or combined (I know a JGTC car bears essentially no resemblance to its production counterpart), but the conclusion remains: a few dozen nameplates account for about half of GT5's thousand cars.
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By the way, the G35 is based on the Skyline Chassis, not the Z chassis.
 
Vanon
You're sarcastic, right :D?
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No, definitely serious.

SuperShouden
By the way, the G35 is based on the Skyline Chassis, not the Z chassis.
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Erm, don't they all have the same chassis? We're talking skyline 350 and not GTR right? The skyline chassis started the FM platform. It was shortened for the 350z and that's it. There's a reason they share tons of suspension parts.
 
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