CodeRedR51
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Sound quality on cars with V8's (stock exhaust) has gone up considerably in the last few updates. The Lexus IS-F is a great example as well.
GT5 Sound Thread
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Guess I will have to revisit the exhaust on the IS-F as well. Thanks for the tip.
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I agree completely. I was racing the Mercedes SLR last night with stock exhaust and it sounded amazing....as a big engined car should. I've also noticed that many American V8 cars (Corvette/Camaro) sound really good with semi racing exhaust. And last observation is that the gear howl from the transmission is subdued in the in car cockpit view, allowing more engine/exhaust notes to be noticed.
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787B sounds like a modern day F1 car in Forza 4...GT5 I think wins it there to be honest.
However there was a comparison around recently between all kinds of cars and it's fair to say Forza got more that its fair share of wins in the comparison to me. Plus I heard the Ferrari 333SP in it and that sounded really loud.
However there was a comparison around recently between all kinds of cars and it's fair to say Forza got more that its fair share of wins in the comparison to me. Plus I heard the Ferrari 333SP in it and that sounded really loud.
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Forza's replay sounds are terrible imo and it takes away any immersion from the replay. The doppler effects are horrible and GT5 kills it with this regard. Now if only PD can fix the samples....
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I think (of what I heard) the carsounds are much better in forza 4. I have never played forza,and ama GTlover,but the sounds of what I heard on youtube easily were even better in forza than on my 5.1 Reciver with GT5.
the 787B's sound however is clearyly good in GT5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zhOQ5PvaE
for people who want to make a comparison. I love the video.
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why do cars sound quieter and higher pitched when heavily modded? there's no exhaust spitting or any sense of aural enjoyment that a real car provides, PD is not even close in the sound department, waiting for GT6...
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goukipauI think (of what I heard) the carsounds are much better in forza 4. I have never played forza,and ama GTlover,but the sounds of what I heard on youtube easily were even better in forza than on my 5.1 Reciver with GT5.
the 787B's sound however is clearyly good in GT5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zhOQ5PvaE
for people who want to make a comparison. I love the video.
I can confirm that the Sound in Forza is much better. I just like both Games
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Regarding the 787B you kinda missed J-KiLLA24's point. He didn't say that GT5's sound of it was close to the real life one. Just that between Forza and GT5, GT5's 787B sounds closer and better than Forza's.
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Ah, my mistake. 👍
Read too quickly.
But still, the sound from the inside sounds better in GT5, but the fly-by sound is better in Forza.
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1241PenguinAh, my mistake. 👍
Read too quickly.
What? Sry you can't compare Forza Sound with GT Sound.
Forza Sound wins easily.
I think some People compare their GT game Sound with Forza 4 Youtube Sound. And this is a fail.
You have to compare them at home. Thats the only Way to Get a fair comparison and a fair result.
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As J-KiLLA24 pointed out, the 787B sound in GT does have a slight edge, but yes, everything else is absolute garbage.
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I was just playing GT4, and I noticed how engine sound was amplified while entering and driving through a tunnel. The sounds really made themselves known. GT5 sound lacks this totally. Hope it returns soon.
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It doesn't totally lack it, it's just very quiet. They should boost the reverb in general, even outside the tunnels, and scale it differently to the "dry" sound so that it's louder in relative terms when the car is further away in external views, too. I did a quick proof of concept using a simple reverber and it works rather well, especially with high frequency attenuation over distance.
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^ 👍
Also agree with 1241Penguin, the 599 sounded much closer to a proper V12 sound in Prologue, don't know why PD changed it to a more generic sample. And that the 787B is overrated
Even with the three most recent DLC V12 cars, only one of them actually sounds like a V12. The Aventador still shares the sound with the Murcs, which in turn sound like Gallardos.
No comment on the XJR-12
The Vantage, while sharing the sound with the 599/W12 Nardo, seems to have more grunt added to it. It sounds great at low-medium revs, though high-rpms give it the GT5 vacuum cleaner effect.
I'm not going to hold my breath with PD, their priority is for photostream, racing suits, horns and paintchips
Also, have PD changed the sound of the GT by Citroen concept car? It seems to sound much better and different than it used to
Also agree with 1241Penguin, the 599 sounded much closer to a proper V12 sound in Prologue, don't know why PD changed it to a more generic sample. And that the 787B is overrated
Even with the three most recent DLC V12 cars, only one of them actually sounds like a V12. The Aventador still shares the sound with the Murcs, which in turn sound like Gallardos.
No comment on the XJR-12
The Vantage, while sharing the sound with the 599/W12 Nardo, seems to have more grunt added to it. It sounds great at low-medium revs, though high-rpms give it the GT5 vacuum cleaner effect.
I'm not going to hold my breath with PD, their priority is for photostream, racing suits, horns and paintchips
Also, have PD changed the sound of the GT by Citroen concept car? It seems to sound much better and different than it used to
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It's an over-exaggeration to say that GT5 has only one decent-sounding car, and that everything else is "absolute garbage".
There are threads that discuss this, such as https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=119772&page=261
and I think there was also one that discussed which exhausts suited which car in terms of sound. 👍
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Just did my own little sound test with the classic DTM cars, results; Calibra, Alfa 155 and the Mercedes Benz 190... all sound exactly the same... aka as the hoover from hell.
Was the sound of the real cars that similar i wonder?
Was the sound of the real cars that similar i wonder?
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The short answer: not quite. The long answer: Alfa, Mercedes, Opel. (The Calibra used a Cosworth "KF" V6; here's another example of that engine.)
It remains one of the more perplexing aspects of GT5's sounds for me, in that the repertoire of samples has barely (seemed to have been) expanded in ten years.
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Thanks for the vids, what do you know they actually sound good in reality! (love that roar when the 190 accelerates)
Shame they used this as a sample for all 3 of them:
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They do sound fabulous; there's practically little to separate them from the F1 technology of the time, so that's not surprising. That roar is intake; the V6s are similar, but as you'd expect with 50% extra cylinders, the frequency is a bit higher. The intake "texture" is also very similar to a 350Z's exhaust, although the tone and timbre is very different, as is the rev range (11 000 - 13 000 rpm here).
I have realised that the cars in the videos may not be representative of the actual cars in the game, since they were heavily evolved over the period between 1990-1993 and 1996, with increasing power and rev limits in particular affecting the sound, not to mention an architecture change for the Alfa Romeo from 60° to 90° bank angles, which may or may not have affected the evenness of the engine's ignition (compare 6R4, which is 90° and uneven firing. The 190's successor, the C-Class, also had a 90° V6, as did the Calibra).
And whilst I think it's a bit daft to use a vacuum cleaner as a comparison, GT's lack of intake sound means these particular cars (and practically every other car) could never sound truly correct.
I have realised that the cars in the videos may not be representative of the actual cars in the game, since they were heavily evolved over the period between 1990-1993 and 1996, with increasing power and rev limits in particular affecting the sound, not to mention an architecture change for the Alfa Romeo from 60° to 90° bank angles, which may or may not have affected the evenness of the engine's ignition (compare 6R4, which is 90° and uneven firing. The 190's successor, the C-Class, also had a 90° V6, as did the Calibra).
And whilst I think it's a bit daft to use a vacuum cleaner as a comparison, GT's lack of intake sound means these particular cars (and practically every other car) could never sound truly correct.
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Isn't Kaz a race car driver? He races in race cars and drives cars. I'm surprized that he doesn't notice their sounds when driving them or something...
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I don't know if this has been discovered as i can't be bothered reading 5200+ posts, but i have just made an incredible find.
It happened when racing an A-spec event. I was driving the Nismo GT-R R tune with cockpit view.
"This sound pretty good" i thought. This car has a nice 6 cylinder exhaust howl but i was disappointed there was close to no valve/cam noise and very little boost sound.
So i look behind to check the AI (i was running 3 grades lower tires so they kept rear ending me in the braking zones) and when i look behind, there it is. Lovely mechanical noises, turbo whistle and even some intake grunt.
I immideately quit the championship to try other cars to see if my hypothesis would hold water.
So far i have tested several front engined, mid engined and rear engined cars with the same result.
THE SOUND IS REVERSED.
When you look back you get "proper" induction, and mechanical sound.
Please take some time to test and confirm this. I have only tried one sound config so if people here could help me confirm with various settings this could be the answer to GT5s poor intake sounds!!!
It needs to be patched immedeately in my opinion.
It happened when racing an A-spec event. I was driving the Nismo GT-R R tune with cockpit view.
"This sound pretty good" i thought. This car has a nice 6 cylinder exhaust howl but i was disappointed there was close to no valve/cam noise and very little boost sound.
So i look behind to check the AI (i was running 3 grades lower tires so they kept rear ending me in the braking zones) and when i look behind, there it is. Lovely mechanical noises, turbo whistle and even some intake grunt.
I immideately quit the championship to try other cars to see if my hypothesis would hold water.
So far i have tested several front engined, mid engined and rear engined cars with the same result.
THE SOUND IS REVERSED.
When you look back you get "proper" induction, and mechanical sound.
Please take some time to test and confirm this. I have only tried one sound config so if people here could help me confirm with various settings this could be the answer to GT5s poor intake sounds!!!
It needs to be patched immedeately in my opinion.
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I 'accidentally' found this when I was looking back on hood cam on the Camaro Race Car. The sound was glorious.
We might be onto something here.GT5 is set to Small Theatre, and I use a 2.1 HD configuration.
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Not just any vacuum cleaner, thats the Numatic 2000 limited edition.
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People say that this happens because of the sound in the game being developed to be used with home theater systems. So, you listen to the engine at the front, and exhaust sounds at the back. It's correct if the engine sounds at the front were better...
But I agree with you. These sounds are MUCH better and I would love to have them in a more "usable" view.
No, its not. Listen to some car sounds when looking back in the hood/roof cam. It's a lot better actually.
And btw, the vacuum cleaner joke is old already.
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@ counter345 and Vegard:
Quick question: what are your respective audio settings (PS3, and GT5) and audio hardware (not interested in brand or megawatts per octave, just the speaker configuration and type).
A recent update tweaked the in-car sound levels so that exhaust was more prominent, because "most people" hate the whirry noises coming from the front of most cars, hence all the vacuum cleaner nonsense.
As for Kaz being a racing driver, he may just not be a sound guy. Some people pay no heed to the sounds around them, just as some people don't really care what a car looks like.
Another explanation is that he's infinitely more aware of what's cooking on the back-burner at PD Towers than we are.
Great, if that's your thing, I suppose. Just remember that centrifugal air pumps sound quite dissimilar to reciprocating ones.
Quick question: what are your respective audio settings (PS3, and GT5) and audio hardware (not interested in brand or megawatts per octave, just the speaker configuration and type).
A recent update tweaked the in-car sound levels so that exhaust was more prominent, because "most people" hate the whirry noises coming from the front of most cars, hence all the vacuum cleaner nonsense.
As for Kaz being a racing driver, he may just not be a sound guy. Some people pay no heed to the sounds around them, just as some people don't really care what a car looks like.
Another explanation is that he's infinitely more aware of what's cooking on the back-burner at PD Towers than we are.
Great, if that's your thing, I suppose. Just remember that centrifugal air pumps sound quite dissimilar to reciprocating ones.
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