GT5 Sound Thread

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@ counter345 and Vegard:
Quick question: what are your respective audio settings (PS3, and GT5) and audio hardware (not interested in brand or megawatts per octave, just the speaker configuration and type).

A recent update tweaked the in-car sound levels so that exhaust was more prominent, because "most people" hate the whirry noises coming from the front of most cars, hence all the vacuum cleaner nonsense.


As for Kaz being a racing driver, he may just not be a sound guy. Some people pay no heed to the sounds around them, just as some people don't really care what a car looks like.
Another explanation is that he's infinitely more aware of what's cooking on the back-burner at PD Towers than we are.



Great, if that's your thing, I suppose. Just remember that centrifugal air pumps sound quite dissimilar to reciprocating ones.

I know your question wasn't directed for me, but I think I suffer of the same thing... mine its just a common, cheap home theater... using RCA cables... :( And GT5 is on Small Theater setting.:scared:

Probably, not much hope for me.
 
I have a 7.1 and GT5 sounds better with HDMI than optical. The best thing about the 7.1 is the sound placement. With the 7.1 set up correctly I swear it sounds as if I am in a real car. The front speakers are the engine and the rear are the exhaust its beautiful. GT5 was made for surround sound in my opinion.
 
....Is it that hard for PD to reccord the sound of an exhaust and the sound of an engine?

I mean most cars...Don't sound anywhere near how they do in real life.
 
GT5:
Current output setting - DD 5.1 48 kHz
Dynamic range - living room
Virtual surround :embarrassed:

PS3:
DD 5.1 through HDMI to:
Sony Bravia NX700, S-Force front surround

I know :embarrassed:

But the question remains:

Do you guys, using a 5.1 or 7.1 setup get the enhanced induction / mechanical noise when looking back in cockpit view.
Is the sample the same, tonal balance etc?
 
GT5:
Current output setting - DD 5.1 48 kHz
Dynamic range - living room
Virtual surround :embarrassed:

PS3:
DD 5.1 through HDMI to:
Sony Bravia NX700, S-Force front surround

I know :embarrassed:

But the question remains:

Do you guys, using a 5.1 or 7.1 setup get the enhanced induction / mechanical noise when looking back in cockpit view.
Is the sample the same, tonal balance etc?

Set GT5 to Small Theater and 5.1/2.1 depending if you have rear speakers!
 
I know your question wasn't directed for me, but I think I suffer of the same thing... mine its just a common, cheap home theater... using RCA cables... :( And GT5 is on Small Theater setting.:scared:

Probably, not much hope for me.

No, it's not the supposed quality of the system that I'm interested in, more the possibility that people have their game set to 5.1 speakers but are listening through their stereo TV speakers (for example). Sounds daft, but sometimes it just doesn't occur to people that this distinction actually matters / exists; I think the HDMI output on the PS3 is audio hardware agnostic, and it's possible the game simply defaults to 5.1 if it's "available".

I use stereo headphones, but I've set the console and game up accordingly, and I, too, use the small theatre setting. (If you can appreciate / prefer the difference the small theatre setting makes, I'd suspect your hardware is probably "adequate".)

It's also true to say the game is better suited to "surround sound", as the stereo mix was too flat before the "sound improvements" and now it's too "polar", to my ears (especially with headphones.)


I cannot really comment on individual "virtual surround" implementations; some are good, though, but the most convincing methods are usually highly dependent on listener position. Try the stereo and normal 5.1 mix in the game options to see which you prefer (the virtual mix is weird on normal 5.1 hardware, but it might be a Sony thing).
There should be a timbral difference between the front and rear aspects, since PD use two separate (directional) sound sources per car, although, in my opinion, the lack of intake wastes the potential of the "engine" source somewhat, meaning it's usually just the mechanical noise, which is what people seem to liken to vacuum cleaners.


The sample accuracy, with regards to a given car sounding like it has the "correct" engine type, for instance, is a separate issue, probably related to direction within the sound team.
 
So i tried these settings:
Small theatre / 2 channel stereo and turned off the virtual surround and now i get pretty much identical signals from both directions in cockpit view.
It seems my settings were messing things up.

I do however think the sound is flatter with this setting.

Time to go dust off my 6.1 and rig up in the basement i guess...

Does GT5 have a discrete 6.1 signal?
 
So i tried these settings:
Small theatre / 2 channel stereo and turned off the virtual surround and now i get pretty much identical signals from both directions in cockpit view.
It seems my settings were messing things up.

I do however think the sound is flatter with this setting.

Time to go dust off my 6.1 and rig up in the basement i guess...

Did you try the ordinary 5.1 mix in GT5 with your TV's virtualisation, too? GT5's virtual mix is bizarre / lost on me. It might be that the channel blending that GT5 does for its virtual surround mix interferes with what the "S-Force" virtual surround processing does.

All the small theatre setting does is open up the dynamic range, allowing for a wider range between concurrent loud and quiet sounds. TV speakers tend to not really benefit from this; i.e., the living room setting is intended for low dynamic-range hardware like TV speakers and / or low dynamic-range listening environments like living rooms, where peak volumes need to be low, and / or there is substantial background noise that will mask quieter sounds.

Try every combination before exerting any real effort; it may just be you don't like GT's sound.

EDIT: No 6.1 that I know of. It'll probably just "ignore" the extra (rear-centre) channel. It does have (I suspect upmixed) 7.1, but that's no use to 6.1 hardware.
 
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mister dog
Just did my own little sound test with the classic DTM cars, results; Calibra, Alfa 155 and the Mercedes Benz 190... all sound exactly the same... aka as the hoover from hell.
Was the sound of the real cars that similar i wonder?

I prefer Dyson.
 
No, its not. Listen to some car sounds when looking back in the hood/roof cam. It's a lot better actually.

And btw, the vacuum cleaner joke is old already.

How can it be old? I just invented it.
Tried the backwards looking hood cam sound yesterday, mainly noticed the whining sound being a lot more spoken for, but a bit to much for comfort if they would use those sounds in the frontwards looking cam.
Think the perfect thing would be a mix between the front and back looking sounds.

Great, if that's your thing, I suppose. Just remember that centrifugal air pumps sound quite dissimilar to reciprocating ones.

Damn you know your vacuum cleaners, "reciprocating" :dopey:

I prefer Dyson.

That's the ferrari of vacuum cleaners, wish i could afford it...
 
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How can it be old? I just invented it.
Tried the backwards looking hood cam sound yesterday, mainly noticed the whining sound being a lot more spoken for, but a bit to much for comfort if they would use those sounds in the frontwards looking cam.
Think the perfect thing would be a mix between the front and back looking sounds.

You may well have done, but there's no such thing as original thought. ;)
Plenty of people take pride in making the same assertion, that GT sounds like a vacuum cleaner Grand Prix, or something. (A search may prove entertaining)
Damn you know your vacuum cleaners, "reciprocating" :dopey:

I was really referring to the engine itself being a reciprocating "air pump" (drive it with an electric motor, and that's what you've got, albeit not really optimised for that task). I know of no vacuum cleaner that has a reciprocating air pump; I suspect it would be terrible.
 
You may well have done, but there's no such thing as original thought. ;)
Plenty of people take pride in making the same assertion, that GT sounds like a vacuum cleaner Grand Prix, or something. (A search may prove entertaining)

If that's so then id like to know which Vacuum they sampled for my Shelby Series 1 , cuz it sounds MEAN. Like a feral boar.
PS My R129 SL600 V12 also begs to differ.
 
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I've noticed something about the Mazda 787B and other cars as well, but it's very noticeable in the 787B. When I have my headphones in and I use the chase cam, the exhaust noise only comes into the left cup, which is strange because the loud noise should reflect onto the right as well. For example if you're on the other side of the exhaust it doesn't mean you can't hear it, right?
 
In GT5. I've puttin a sports exhast into my Bugatti Veyron, and it sounds better. One of you guys should try that, and come back and tell me what you think of it. :sly:
 
Exhaust mods ruin the cars sounds, more "wild" doesn't mean better, just more artificial digital noise. They seem to lose their low end, and any individual character. However the LP400 and Countach 5000 sound incredible with SR exhaust, but lose low end.
 
....Is it that hard for PD to reccord the sound of an exhaust and the sound of an engine?

I mean most cars...Don't sound anywhere near how they do in real life.

apparently by PD's standards it's virtually impossible.

all i want for GT6 is the HSV010-GT with accurate sound

 
Have anyone driven the '89 Galant VR4? It's apparently a 6 cyl.
And the Nissan Silvia 240RS changes from a great 4 cyl to the classic GT-R 6 cyl sample around 5500 rpm :crazy:
Both stock.
 
PD should really take cues from this video. This is the real 787B. Prepare for eargasm. Turn up your volume people :cool:


From HappyCrazyandWise (the top comment):

That was sweet. A pleasant French day with dogs barking, birds chirping with a not so ominous sound of a car in the distance. Then the sound grows louder and louder until the peaceful day is shattered when a screaming orange race car makes it presence felt.  The peace is then restored as the car spreads its thunder in the distance again. Amazing, great video.
 
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Let me guess, it's the stock Shelby GT350 sound?

It's a great sound, but yeah, there's something up with the sharing thing.

The stock GT350R sound is about the closest thing you will get to what those V8s sound like in real life. Even then it's still off a little bit.
 
Kino321-X
PD should really take cues from this video. This is the real 787B. Prepare for eargasm. Turn up your volume people :cool:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtUEPwHnxmU&list=FLcn6FZ8CVXbKohwQsadymA&index=2&feature=plpp_video">YouTube Link</a>

One day when electric cars become mandatory, we will look back at this video and marvel.
 
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