GT5 Sound Thread
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Well, GT4 sounded poor in general, unless you switched the magic switch (Mono mode) in Audio Options then you have more detailed engine sounds, more balanced, and no Phasing(in Stereo there is a delay between L and R channel , the left channel plays first then the R slightly delayed, giving this wierd tunnel vibe)
In Mono, it sounds great for what it is and how many sounds.
Then again alot of people Judge GT sounds when watching a replay or barreling down the Mulsanne, flat out at high revs, thats not where engines have most of their character, its in the low revs, try driving around a car like you wouold IRL, and you will see the grunts and rumbles and things you never heard before.
Try taking a car at complete stop handbrake(works only on MR and FR) and let the revs down, then modulate like you would a real car to warm it up, find its sweet spot and hear the things that massive wind noise at 200kmh block out. Works in GT5P too, the Amuse S2000 has one of my fav sounds.
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Some of those engine sounds from games like rfactor and the like, which have been created by some talented amatures and very likely many of the samples taken from the likes of Videos of cars on Youtube.
If PD can not cooperate with the manufactures so that they can sample all of the cars correctly (using a dyno) then at least they should adopt the same methods as the guys that mod many of the PC sim racing games using samples from Youtube etc.
About 10 mins ago, I stuck my mobile to my Motorcycle to see if I could capture the sound! I just played it through my 5.1 and it sounds AMAZING. Perhaps PD could use it to Sample there Nascar!! lol
If PD can not cooperate with the manufactures so that they can sample all of the cars correctly (using a dyno) then at least they should adopt the same methods as the guys that mod many of the PC sim racing games using samples from Youtube etc.
About 10 mins ago, I stuck my mobile to my Motorcycle to see if I could capture the sound! I just played it through my 5.1 and it sounds AMAZING. Perhaps PD could use it to Sample there Nascar!! lol
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Has anyboday seen this before?(not the best quality I know)
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nice! You demonstrated that even with a mobile you can capture a decent sound! Dynos should work way better, isn't it?
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Yes indeed, a rolling road/Dyno is probably the best way to capture the sound of a vehicle.
Well, PD have close relationships with many manufactures and get close to all the cars featured in the game in order to take pictures/lazer measure them etc. PD being based in Japan gives them access to many of the big Japanese Manufactures. I am sure each manufacturer all have there own rolling roads of which PD could have used. Failing that I am sure a company like PD with Sony behind them could certainly afford to buy there own Rolling road which would enable them to record many of the car sounds or they simply could have worked with many of the car tuning compnies and recorded many of the tuned Civics/skylines/supras etx that come throughthe doors.
1000 cars is allot to do, but it is more than possible logistically to record 5 cars a day which is over a 1000 in a year. Remember, almost anything is possible with the right amount of desire, I guess PD's desire up to now has fallen short of what it is expected from them.
I hope I am wrong, and PD deliver for GT5 but I am worried that Great engine sounds will be forgotten.
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If v12s & v8s & other lovingly sounding engines don't cause windows to shatter, avalanches to happen & your ear drums vibrate like part of a rock band, they will probably sound like a hole in a shopping bag.Exhaust & engine melodies are defining features.
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Correct me if im wrong, but didn`t PD changed the sound of the F2007 with the spec III update?
I hope that they do the same with some of the Standart cars, its so sad that awesome cars like the 787b don`t get the credit they deserve
I hope that they do the same with some of the Standart cars, its so sad that awesome cars like the 787b don`t get the credit they deserve
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See, this just shows that PD will never get the sounds correct at all, because it all comes down to personal opinion.
I personally think the F2007 sounded ok, as well as the 350Z (Amuse mainly) and the Z06, along with a few others. The Subaru's were way off.
Edit: I will say my favorite car in GT4 was the Falcon V8 Supercar. It may not have been correct, but it sounded great to me.
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well at least they got the tyre squeel right this time.
such a shame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F2D5_KMlS4
well at least they got the tyre squeel right this time.
such a shame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F2D5_KMlS4
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....You know that R8 Forza video is of the V10, and NOT the V8 in Prologue..
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well at least they got the tyre squeel right this time.
such a shame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F2D5_KMlS4
GT replay mode sound are so much better than forza3. In forza3 it sound like your still driving the car from cockpit.
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I don't know what you're on, but please, share it with me.
Even though that's not entirely true, they're still far more accurate then anything that GT has ever done.
I have the game bro which runs on a 5.1 and i will say it again yes forza does sound good when your driving in cockpit view, However when you watch a replay it sounds like your still driving in the car from the cockpit. The car cockpit sound should be very different when hearing the car from outside. You live in New York right i live in Jersey When ever you have free time come to jersey and i will show you what i mean and share some of that stuff i'm on
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I don't know what you're on, but please, share it with me.
Even though that's not entirely true, they're still far more accurate then anything that GT has ever done.
He's not talking about the quality of the actual sounds. He's talking about how the sound is implemented accurately in GT. Different sounds depending on different views you use. Different frequencies for cars coming and going (Doppler effect), and just all round better implementation of sound in different situations. GT seems to do all that very well (If I explained it correctly).
EDIT: I do ackowledge that Forza also implemented the doppler effect quite well. The problems lie mainly in other areas.
But in Forza, whilst the engine sounds themselves are better, they just don't sound right unless you're in the cockpit. I think there is a bit of sound delay in the replays aswell.
If PD can just nail the actual engine sounds...
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He's not talking about the quality of the actual sounds. He's talking about how the sound is implemented accurately in GT. Different sounds depending on different views you use. Different frequencies for cars coming and going (Doppler effect), and just all round better implementation of sound in different situations. GT seems to do all that very well (If I explained it correctly).
But in Forza, whilst the engine sounds themselves are better, they just don't sound right unless you're in the cockpit. I think there is a bit of sound delay in the replays aswell.
If PD can just nail the actual engine sounds...
While Forza doesn't necessarily have variable volume on all of the vehicles whilst switching between every view...it does a damn good job of varying the sounds when you're spectating a replay.
I was never arguing that it didn't variate between volumes (I know it doesn't, not for all of 'em anyway) it sounded like he was saying the samples were bad, so many pardons for that.
An example...
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I have the game too, bro.
I'm trying to understand how that negates the fact that Forza's engine audio is miles ahead of GT's whether it's in replay, gameplay, cockpit, third person...etc.
Just come to the crib bro i will show you 👍
He's not talking about the quality of the actual sounds. He's talking about how the sound is implemented accurately in GT. Different sounds depending on different views you use. Different frequencies for cars coming and going (Doppler effect), and just all round better implementation of sound in different situations. GT seems to do all that very well (If I explained it correctly).
EDIT: I do ackowledge that Forza also implemented the doppler effect quite well. The problems lie mainly in other areas.
But in Forza, whilst the engine sounds themselves are better, they just don't sound right unless you're in the cockpit. I think there is a bit of sound delay in the replays aswell.
If PD can just nail the actual engine sounds...
Thank you sir 👍 Some of GT5P cars sound bad but the ones that sound good Whoa!!! The sound quality is just so much better in GT i cannot explain it.
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Why don't Kaz just rip many of the engine sounds from Fora 3! lol
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The car does sound pretty good bro but when you switch from Cockpit to Tv style replay it still sounds the same IMO I remember having MY STI back in the day and all my friends use to tell me " damn the STI sounds like a beast. I didint understand them until one day i let my bro drive. When he came around the coner one day i was like
I can hear the real beast within the STI.I hope you plan on feeding me, because I'm hungry right now.
Hahaha i have some food for ya bro
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