GT6 Prologue

[Youngun]

^ GT6 doesn't need a new game engine, what it really needs is some improvements, tweaks and adding new features on the PS4, which imo should be much easier. If the PS4 isn't to hard to develop on like it was on the PS3, then imo, it may not take as long.

That's how I see it as though.

Tweaking a game and adding a few new features would be a real new game, i don't want them falling in to the Activision trap by adding a few new things then changing the 1 to 2 or 2 to 3 with MW. A new game should be a new game, using the companies basic set-up and strategy but with new material and design.

Licences, real racing, real cars and a real world is the base line with great physics and beauty picture that could be class leading. The game itself should be all new and fresh, games i feel do this well is assassins creed and uncharted, not changing the formula but changing the game. Sports games are hard to keep fresh, action/adventure is easy to make fresh but racing, i feel, is in the middle. Could be fresh but need to think a little more even if it is a few mini games within the game itself. They should expand and add new ideas (bring back old ones like GRID START) but under a new game, a new way.

Also, in this day and age, prologue would seem worthless for development purposes as no feedback would be achieved, to me GT5P was just to fill the gap until GT5 (a demo per say) if they wanted to develop on ps3 for ps3, wouldn't a closed alpha/beta (like pcars) be better in developing a great game..........add a feedback icon with a list to choice (glitch, bug, problem etc) so they can tweak and adapt for a better release?

 

[Samus]

Well we know they are still working on the current PS3 GT engine. Unless Kaz just wanted to give us one last update to screw with our car’s tunes. If GT6 were going to be released on the new platform there would be no reason for them to do any more work into the PS3 GT engine. They might still be providing DLC if they felt it were profitable but there would be no need to continue to change the physics.

There you go again, talking as if the GT5 engine is 100% useless to them for PS4 and they'll have to start from nothing. They won't.

Yes, but that is all that anyone in this thread is doing. I am merely laying out a logical argument for why I believe this rumored Prologue is for GT7.

Yes but you keep writing everything in a very matter of fact way.

The Unreal Engine allows for the development of cross platform applications. The Unreal Engine itself is not a cross platform piece of software. If a game written with the Unreal Engine is going to run on an Xbox it will use a version of the Unreal Engine written for DirectX. On other platforms it may use the Unreal Engine written for OpenGL.

It's still the same Unreal Engine with the same fucntions/outputs etc. I'm not saying that they could cut and paste the GT5 engine into a PS4 engine, of course they would need to make changes but they still don't need to start from 0 as you are insinuating.

You seem completely hung up on one thing Kaz said three years ago and are even taking it too literally, as if GT5 actually was an operating system and they're building apps for it.

IMOHO. How’s that?

Well yes. As above you keep writing everything as if it's fact when it it isn't. You also still haven't told us where you think a PS3 GT6 fits into the schedule.

 

[Mulan]

Im optimistic, GT6 will be out next year along with PS4. If im to be pessimistic then it may be delayed 2-3 months because of an earthquake or other type of natural disaster that manufacturers blame for all delays. (if its true then i understand, but many times it feels just as an excuse).
Hopefully Europe will get theirs first

 

[Samus]

I'm extremely confident that GT6 will be revealed in some shape or form as part of the PS4 reveal presentation, probably at E3 2013 in June. I'm not so confident when the game will actually release though, I'm not expecting a week 1 launch title but within 6 months would be my best guess.

 

[thelvynau]

I'm extremely confident that GT6 will be revealed in some shape or form as part of the PS4 reveal presentation, probably at E3 2013 in June. I'm not so confident when the game will actually release though, I'm not expecting a week 1 launch title but within 6 months would be my best guess.

I think almost everyone is expecting gt6 on ps4 and announced either the same time or shortly after.

I just want to know by what logic gt7p plays out in all this.

 

[Samus]

I think almost everyone is expecting gt6 on ps4 and announced either the same time or shortly after.

I just want to know by what logic gt7p plays out in all this.

Well he only has that logic because he believes GT6 is on PS3. If that were true his logic would fit. But as most of us know, the time for GT6 on PS3 has passed.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Well he only has that logic because he believes GT6 is on PS3. If that were true his logic would fit. But as most of us know, the time for GT6 on PS3 has passed.

How do you know?

You keep demanding proof from me.

 

[Samus]

How do you know?

You keep demanding proof from me.

Ok I'll reword that, most of us believe the time has passed. I'm not demanding proof from you because obviously nobody can prove anything, I was asking how you think the release schedule is going to play out, in particular a GT6 PS3. When you do you think that game will a) be announced b) released and how do you see it tieing into the announcement and release of the PS4? Because from where I'm looking I don't see there being enough time left for it.

 

[AleksandarSRB]

I still hope that GT6 is PS3 game

 

[machschnel]

So let me get this straight - PC Cars, Forza 5 and (shudder) Grid 2 are all coming out next year and as far as anyone knows GT6 could be years away. Do Polyphony really think that allowing it's fans to get bored, try other, possibly better games is a good way to hold market share? Unfortunately (in my opinion) unless you're Rockstar/Kojima, I think you are going to have to produce games a little quicker than two plus years. Hell, a year after GT5's release I bought an XBOX, a year after that I bought a PC. This wasn't an issue of quality however, I was just so damned bored. Now, I really can't see myself going back to consoles.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

PD is in their own little world. You have to remember that.

 

[Griffith500]

I'm sure Sony will come up with a reason or three for people to buy PS4 over XBox++, it's not like GT5 alone sold all those PS3s. PD should concentrate on making a good game, let Sony worry about "market share" and whatever other crap.

 

[TokoTurismo]

My bet is GT6 "could" be at E3 2013 with the other games that'll showcase there, and even be launch titles for the PS4, since the PS4 (Omni) could appear there. Seems like 2013 would be an exciting year, (especially for GT6 on the PS4 if not prologue I hope.)

Plus that was 2 years in development for it too, so next year should be perfect for full out GT6 to come out.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Ok I'll reword that, most of us believe the time has passed. I'm not demanding proof from you because obviously nobody can prove anything, I was asking how you think the release schedule is going to play out, in particular a GT6 PS3. When you do you think that game will a) be announced b) released and how do you see it tieing into the announcement and release of the PS4? Because from where I'm looking I don't see there being enough time left for it.

I don't really follow the gaming industry - GT5 is the only game I play. So I don't know when/where it's release will be announced.

I am guessing GT6 will be released in November 2013 for the PS3.

 

[AlvaroF]

I am guessing GT6 will be released in November 2013 for the PS3.

I hope so... I just don't have the money needed for next gen consols and in Portugal things aren't, well, cheap... And I can't just grab a hammer or some spanners to open my perfectly working 3 year old PS3 and magiclly burn some circuits because I won't see my money back and I can't sell it on the internet because there is enough for sale and nobody will give a s*** about it...

I'm not a expert it would be a risk lauching the PS4 soon with the economics completly ******* up (european especially althouhg it isn't a big pole of sales)

I don't belive this rumors, we don't actually know nothing about the legendry Orbis or Omni or PS4, whatever its called... it can support 4k and lots of interesting things etc. It has to be what, 4x more powerful than the PS3 for 600 bucks? Honestly I don't see it happen, but adding those 600 are the 1500 for the tv set to support 4k, never hearedcounting the years that needs to reach that price, it's stupid

Never bought a prologue, never will, just the whole game and why wasting years of work in a two day demo... just PD!

 

[Samus]

I don't really follow the gaming industry - GT5 is the only game I play. So I don't know when/where it's release will be announced.

I am guessing GT6 will be released in November 2013 for the PS3.

Well first of all AAA games just don't get announced and released within a year. It's already December 2012 and no announcement of GT6. GT games are pretty much always revealed at major gaming shows, the next of which is E3 in June. However E3 is when most people expect PS4 to be announced so they aren't going to announce a PS3 game at the same time, it makes no sense to reveal a new console then your biggest franchise on the old console.

AFAIK there are no currently announced major first party titles already announced with a release date past June, there is obviously a reason for that.

There are going to have to an awful lot of industry/GT firsts for a PS3 game to happen.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

We shall see SimonK, we shall see...

 

[thelvynau]

Im with Simon on this its extremely unlikely we will see gt6 on ps3 given everyone expects a ps4 announcement at e3.

 

[jabofu]

I hope so... I just don't have the money needed for next gen consols and in Portugal things aren't, well, cheap... And I can't just grab a hammer or some spanners to open my perfectly working 3 year old PS3 and magiclly burn some circuits because I won't see my money back and I can't sell it on the internet because there is enough for sale and nobody will give a s*** about it...

I'm not a expert it would be a risk lauching the PS4 soon with the economics completly ******* up (european especially althouhg it isn't a big pole of sales)

I don't belive this rumors, we don't actually know nothing about the legendry Orbis or Omni or PS4, whatever its called... it can support 4k and lots of interesting things etc. It has to be what, 4x more powerful than the PS3 for 600 bucks? Honestly I don't see it happen, but adding those 600 are the 1500 for the tv set to support 4k, never hearedcounting the years that needs to reach that price, it's stupid

Never bought a prologue, never will, just the whole game and why wasting years of work in a two day demo... just PD!

The PS4 will probably be a bit less costly than the PS3. The words going around say that Sony will use more components that are already available at the market now. If this is true, we might see a price of between 350 € - 450 € here in central europe.

And dont tell me you dont have the money, when you can afford a PS3 and games for it. I know times are tough, especially in the southern european countries. But a new console wont get released as a surprise. Why dont you save 30-40 € a month for a year and then be able to buy it directly. A hobby like gaming will always be expensive.

I really hope that we dont get a prologue, but the complete game instead. Paying for a demo is bad and they just do it to fool the normal players. The casual player thought that GT5 was a full GT-game. Even EA doesnt threat gamers like this.

 

[thelvynau]

The PS4 will probably be a bit less costly than the PS3. The words going around say that Sony will use more components that are already available at the market now. If this is true, we might see a price of between 350 € - 450 € here in central europe.

And dont tell me you dont have the money, when you can afford a PS3 and games for it. I know times are tough, especially in the southern european countries. But a new console wont get released as a surprise. Why dont you save 30-40 € a month for a year and then be able to buy it directly. A hobby like gaming will always be expensive.

I really hope that we dont get a prologue, but the complete game instead. Paying for a demo is bad and they just do it to fool the normal players. The casual player thought that GT5 was a full GT-game. Even EA doesnt threat gamers like this.

I dont see how you can comment on if he has the money.for the console do you know everyones financial status?

 

[ch3ng]

I don't really follow the gaming industry - GT5 is the only game I play. So I don't know when/where it's release will be announced.

I am guessing GT6 will be released in November 2013 for the PS3.

I see. We have several rumours for PS4/Xbox announced E3 2013 and released holiday 2013 or early 2014.

 

[Samus]

We shall see SimonK, we shall see...

Indeed we shall. Don't get me wrong I wanted a PS3 game and before the Tokyo Game Show this year I was still pretty sure we would get one, it made the most sense. Now it doesn't from what I can see. I'd love to be proved wrong but everything is stacked in the other direction.

 

[jabofu]

I dont see how you can comment on if he has the money.for the console do you know everyones financial status?

I dont know his financial status. I also dont want to play down the fact that many people in his region are unemployed or live at the edge and dont have the money for a console. But he owns a PS3 and games, so apparently someone in his position must have enough money to spend on gaming beside the cost of living. But my saying that he must have the money was certainly not appropriate. Sorry for that.

My criticism is more headed at the people who cry that they cant afford an iphone 5, while they still pay off their iphone 4s and also having their macbook pro infront of them. Technology moves on, with or without you. Nobody needs to buy things at release and can save a ton of money while waiting. Same with consoles.

But with the release of the first next gen trailer, we can say that the PS4 is just a few steps away from us.

 

[Brend]

Causing quite the stir on my WipEout forum too, as there is supposedly a WO in development too.

Interesting stuff.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I like how Sony does not want to call the Next Playstation "PS4", even though the fanbase still calls it as such.

 

[Nish]

I've heard it won't be PS4 because the number 4 is bad luck in Japan (like most peoples 13 over here). It goes as far as floors in some buildings being labeled G, 1, 2, 3, 3a, 5, 6 etc. Other than that I'm not one to go by names, wouldn't matter to me if they called it Playstation Tofu I would still buy it .

 

[I Am Yellow]

I've heard it won't be PS4 because the number 4 is bad luck in Japan (like most peoples 13 over here). It goes as far as floors in some buildings being labeled G, 1, 2, 3, 3a, 5, 6 etc. Other than that I'm not one to go by names, wouldn't matter to me if they called it Playstation Tofu I would still buy it .

Isn't it China?

 

[Spagetti69]

I've heard it won't be PS4 because the number 4 is bad luck in Japan (like most peoples 13 over here). It goes as far as floors in some buildings being labeled G, 1, 2, 3, 3a, 5, 6 etc. Other than that I'm not one to go by names, wouldn't matter to me if they called it Playstation Tofu I would still buy it .

I've heard people won't buy it or any other new console because the Mayan calendar says no.

Not far now either. *Trembles*

 

[TokoTurismo]

I like how Sony does not want to call the Next Playstation "PS4", even though the fanbase still calls it as such.

I'm okay the PS--- the Omni, is now the Playstation's new name, Omni. It may mean a good thing for it, since the number "4" means "bad luck" in Japan. Good thing Sony changed it. 👍

EDIT: I found out that the word "Omni" means "All". Should be good for Sony's next system next year hopefully. It was a good thing they chose that name instead of "4". Smart thinking Sony.

 

[sumbrownkid]

So their number 4 is our number 13 in terms of bad luck?

Man you learn something new everyday on these boards.👍