Those numbers?.. Already pointed out, go back and read.
Watch Dogs would be a single set of sales data. Titanfall, which you never bothered to bring up but someone else was kind enough to do for you, would be another one. You're talking comprehensive concepts regarding how no one buys PS3 games to the same level of PS4 games now that the PS4 is out, of which a single game is not proof of; and you've repeatedly fobbed off numbers that don't fit what you're saying for no other reason than you can't refute them.
What do
you think?
I'll tell you what I think:
No one can be so foolish as to think that the things you attempted to twist into insults were actual attempts to insult you, so the entire ridiculous tirade about how T12 is out to get you (that conveniently started around the time people began actually asking for the numbers you claimed were so obvious) because all of those other members apparently conducted themselves the same way you (accidentally) admitted to is about as subtle a diversionary tactic as if you said "Look over there!" and ran away likea Scooby Doo episode.
As I have already said, again go back and actually read, those games were all released BEFORE the PS4 came out.
Ass Creed 4, Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 first released all of 2 weeks before the PS4/Xbone version did. Are you seriously trying to make the implication that people wouldn't bother with three of the games (two of which have a heavy online focus) that made up a large portion of both system's prerelease hype because they already bought them on the PS360 less than two weeks prior?
And I did go back and read what you posted:
Why are games selling far less on PS3 than PS4?
And the only actual number data you provided to back anything up you've said so far comes from a source that proves that statement wrong.
And even then, if you take sales this year BF4 PS4 is outselling its PS3 counterpart by 130K.
And Ass Creed 4 is outselling the PS4 version by 140,000 copies. And Call of Duty Ghosts is outselling the PS4 version by 200,000 copies. And has outsold the PS4 version to date by 4:1. Now I'm sure you'll claim that that two weeks was all it took to sell all of those copies; not realizing that by doing so you'd be sinking the very argument you've been claiming from the start.
That's just the Playstation ones, by the way. The 360 version is up 400,000 copies this year on the Xbone one (and 200,000 on the PS4 one); and has sold even more to date.
No it did not. GT2 was launched in December 1999, the PS2 launched in March 2000.
So GT2 sold the entirety of its Japanese sales in three months? And the PSX didn't have a couple years of strong developer support in spite of the successor system being on the market; as well as revitalized sales following the rebranding and redesign of the system in 2000?
Also there was no Forza, no pCARS, no other similar competition at all. The market was GT's alone.
There was a large gap for GT2 to sell with no pressure.
Except for the pressure of the multiple competitors the game had on the market when it released, including the pressure from
the next generation Gran Turismo game that Sony had in playable form months before GT2 released. GT2 had competitors on the market just as much as GT6 did. Just as much as GT3 did. Just as much as GT4 did. The only GT game that existed in a sort of vacuum was the first title, because immediately developers began retooling existing franchises or creating new games to more closely ape the original GT game.
And yet every GT game, no matter when it was released, no matter how many competitors were on the market against it, no matter how long in the tooth the system in question was, still crushed everything. Not every racing game.
Everything. This was all hashed out in great detail within a few posts of you being in this thread, so perhaps the one who needs lessons on how to follow a forum discussion is you.
In fact, let's look at something else you said earlier that is related:
And the only games to outsell GT6 this year that were not launched this year are the two big FPS releases, FIFA and GTA5. GT6 was never going to sell like those, not in a million years. It does not seem like its doing so bad to be the next best seller behind those huge and more mainstream franchises.
GT5: Prologue, which was a glorified demo that you had to pay $40 for, was the best selling game on the system for 3 years. Much bigger than any Call of Duty game. Even the Xbox 360 versions of Call of Duty couldn't outsell that demo version of GT5 until Modern Warfare 2 released. Much bigger than GTA IV on both systems. Again, a paid demo of a game that ended up being 3 years away. Outsold all but a small handful of games
period in the 360/PS3 generation. Then GT5 released and it was treated as a milestone event in the industry, it was so huge. It ended up doubling GT5: Prologue's sales. It sold so much that to date the
only PS3 game that sold better is GTA V, and the list of 360 games isn't too much bigger.
But you're going to claim that GT6 was never capable of anything more than (at this point) 1/4th of what GT5 sold, for no other reason than because it released 20 days after the PS4 did?
GT6 was launched after gamers had already moved on to a new generation
All 130 thousand worth, apparently. Minus 200 thousand. Minus 140 thousand.
(and not to mention a new much more affordable generation than the PS2 was).
There isn't a single standard by which this statement is true.
Stop the lies, I am obviously for more knowledgeable than you, I'll catch you out every time.
If its anything like how much of a fool of yourself you made with the discussion on the definition of "quantum",
culminating in you intentionally breaking the AUP to try to claim a member agreed with you by cutting off everything but the first sentence of their post, I think I'll be alright.
At the time of GT6's release driveclub was expected very soon. Sony initially said it would be free and in the launch period. Again, don't lie.
"Very soon" my ass. At the time of GT6's release,
Drive Club had already gone two months without having any release date at all. Who do you think you're fooling by completely fabricating such easily researched information as
the launch game for the system didn't actually launch with the system? If you truly thought that Drive Club was right around the corner in perpetuity as you indicated earlier, despite the fact that all Sony ever said about when it would be released was "early 2014", that's entirely your problem.
Also, stop claiming I'm "lying" just because you don't have a pot to piss in. It's pretty annoying, and it certainly won't help your membership here any considering how concerned you are about biased moderators who "absue" their power.
Sure, nobody directly said that. They did however say everything possible to drive that same argument though, and I indeed do have everyone dead to rights.
Not a single person ever came close to claiming that the PS4's launch had no effect on PS3 (or GT6) sales. Quite a few people stated outright that they knew it did; with the corollary being that they didn't think it was the main reason for reasoning that they went on to try to explain. You were the one who refused their explanations with no reasoning beyond your pretentious appeal to what you claim reality is.
Furthermore, it took over half a dozen posts from several different members to even get you to post any factual basis for the things you were claiming were fact from the very moment you stepped in the thread. Factual basis which undermines the very thing you were claiming to be "reality" since you set foot in this thread. I therefore don't think you understand what that phrase "dead to rights" actually means.
Including that mod who ran away instead of facing and explaining his actions...
Considering you already admitted that he was talking to you in PMs and you just wanted to make a public spectacle of yourself, I'm again confused what this statement is supposed to prove besides how terrible you are at convincing yourself that the world outside of your self-important angry little box doesn't exist.
