GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Roggers]

About the pit entry: yes, it's probably the tightest one in game. Is it hard? No. Adjust your speed and drive in slowly with a wheel on the curb.

Should they change it?
Absolutely not! It's like it is in real life. Adapt and overcome.

Agree, they is nothing wrong with the pit entry at all. It’s just another challenge we have to overcome.

Looks harsh to me.

Somebody overtook me going into the pits today, which means they must have had all four wheels the wrong side of the line - no penalty though!

Its one one those penalties that look harsh but fair too. If the rules state you can not touch the line then fair enough.
Does the game even have a rules books?

Funny you mention this, I learned not to brake hard and late in GTS so I brake a bit early and not so hard and guess what, I AM ACCUSED OF BRAKE CHECKING!!! I get punted, I get yelled at , and I now have a bad rep as dirty...

This annoys me with some people. Some people believe that there racing line and braking points are the ”correct” way to drive, but when your behind following a car you need to react to the conditions infront of you not too carry on doimg your own thing. Even seen people asking for penalties because they braked too early and hit the car infront or complaining they been given a penalty for hitting the car infront.

 

[Machinist757]

Funny you mention this, I learned not to brake hard and late in GTS so I brake a bit early and not so hard and guess what, I AM ACCUSED OF BRAKE CHECKING!!! I get punted, I get yelled at , and I now have a bad rep as dirty...

If the person behind you is faster, it is up to them to get by you cleanly regardless of your braking points.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

If the rules state you can not touch the line then fair enough

Makes sense in real life but I don’t know about anyone else but driving slowly in bumper cam is really hard for me! The wide FOV and speed differential compared to how the game is normally played throws me off completely. Im basically coming to a stand still at the bend.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Yeah the Chevy and the Genesis X are the closest I've come to my M6 time, by a couple of tenths, so they definitely have pace. Not tried the Supra, will give it a run tonight with the GTR.

Couldn't get anything out of the BRZ it was 2 seconds off pace for me.

It's nice to see they've improved the M6 though it was super squirrelly on launch but if you can find something more stable, you can pass some spinners who are still having trouble with it.

Supra is definitely slower than the others here, but the power it has on the long run up the esses and back stretch allow you to keep in touch with everyone, but there's much less room for error on the second half of the circuit. I simply never have been able to maximize the limits of the M6, and in some limited work in the Genesis much the same for me. At my speed, the META isn't as much of a factor as being comfortable. The Corvette is just so forgiving that 9/10 pace is easier than any other car. I'm still getting run over in the big turn after the chicane and the left hander in the boot. I should watch a couple of videos I suppose, to see where I'm losing out. Also having a really hard time on the last turn, given the kind of weird apex and the sunlight blinding you on entry.

 

[NevilleNobody]

KK that race last night were you getting crazy, crazy glitching like cars crashing left and right all race?? I did two races, both were impossible with cars around me as they were "crashing" every 5 seconds.

I agree with others that I am not seeing a huge difference between the cars. Yeah I can eek out an extra 3 tenths with the Genesis over the Z4 but the Z4 is a ROCK on exit whereas the Genesis gets very squirrly, for races with 0 TC, I need a reliable rear end, most cars get sketchy on me as the tyres wear.

I just did my fastest qualy in the Supra amazingly enough, 1.43.4,still too slow but whatever. I agree with someone above, good drivers with a tempered right foot should be able to make the Mustang turn a heck of a lap.

 

[BigSarj]

Three races in the Corvette, three last place finishes, even when starting in pole. One more try before I have to go to an appointment.

Sooooo many spins.

Edit - Spun out coming out of the chicane on the first lap. Time to go back to the M6.

 

[NevilleNobody]

The fact you cannot use TC is very, very frustrating. i mean you can but yeah it saps you for 3 seconds a lap. Try the Z4, not the absolute fastest but not the slowest either and the back end is rock solid.

 

[BigSarj]

The fact you cannot use TC is very, very frustrating. i mean you can but yeah it saps you for 3 seconds a lap. Try the Z4, not the absolute fastest but not the slowest either and the back end is rock solid.

I tried some practice laps in the McLaren but it's two seconds a lap slower. Stable though.

The Z4 was a bit faster than the McLaren and certainly stable but has a ton of *understeer. I'm not the quickest when it comes to adjusting to a new car.

Edit * - the GT-R also feels good. At this point I might as well keep tanking the DR anyway.. eventually I'll get a victory. Or not.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Oversteer????????????? Eh??????? The z4? Like the BMW? I absolutely LAY on the throttle, TC0, unless the car is sideways it doesn't step out. I am using X for goodness sake, absolutely ham fisted and she still sticks.

 

[bone_tone]

There's no penalty before you go out of pits. It's legal to cross the lines when not pitting so the pen can't be given before you're in the pit.
Did he come out of pit ahead of you? Sometimes the pen doesn't show before you are past the line.

He did get out in front of me - not surprising since he was going twice as fast as me on the way in! I could see he had no penalty, as I followed him for the rest of the next lap.

 

[BigSarj]

Oversteer????????????? Eh??????? The z4? Like the BMW? I absolutely LAY on the throttle, TC0, unless the car is sideways it doesn't step out. I am using X for goodness sake, absolutely ham fisted and she still sticks.

My bad I meant understeer. Probably a tad flustered right now. But it'll probably be my safe choice if I continue on this path of masochism.

 

[Roggers]

KK that race last night were you getting crazy, crazy glitching like cars crashing left and right all race?? I did two races, both were impossible with cars around me as they were "crashing" every 5 seconds.

I agree with others that I am not seeing a huge difference between the cars. Yeah I can eek out an extra 3 tenths with the Genesis over the Z4 but the Z4 is a ROCK on exit whereas the Genesis gets very squirrly, for races with 0 TC, I need a reliable rear end, most cars get sketchy on me as the tyres wear.

I just did my fastest qualy in the Supra amazingly enough, 1.43.4,still too slow but whatever. I agree with someone above, good drivers with a tempered right foot should be able to make the Mustang turn a heck of a lap.

I always overlook the Z4. After seeing your tip about it in Bathurst, I found it a great car to drive and I managed to massively improve my lap with it too. Am going to give it a go tomorrow, but I’m loving the Hyundai at the minute.


Managed to break into the 1.43’s tonight on Daily C. Did a 1.43.999.
The game says with my best sector time I can reach a 1.43.7xx which I will be delighted with.

 

[Fezzik]

Quali times have jumped the last 24 hours. What was 6th last night is now 12th. Hate being midpack. Behind some idiots bashing and swerving on lap 1, took themselves out and put me in the barrier as I tried to avoid the mess.

Need to find at least a second before I can race again.

 

[jrbabbitt]

This annoys me with some people. Some people believe that there racing line and braking points are the ”correct” way to drive, but when your behind following a car you need to react to the conditions infront of you not too carry on doimg your own thing. Even seen people asking for penalties because they braked too early and hit the car infront or complaining they been given a penalty for hitting the car infront.

If the person behind you is faster, it is up to them to get by you cleanly regardless of your braking points.

Thank you, I'm not a dirty driver, just one that tries his best...

 

[Leon Kowalski]

I admire everyone who can drive the 911 RSR around Watkins Glen at all, let alone quickly. I love the car, used it in every race at Spa, and it worked fine - after I switched over to not using TC anymore (with TC the rear end feels quite clunky). But in WG, the car I love tries to kill me for no apparent reason. Even at Bus Stop, if I don't hit the entry perfectly, I end up in the barrier. Just can't control it here. Strange.

Went with the Genesis X then, which feels stable as a rock, got a decent qualifying lap for my standards (1:43:2 with maybe half a second to be found in sector 2). But I just didn't dare to do an actual race on my main account, because I don't trust my nerves in tight race situations (yeah, quite embarrassing, I know). So I went to my burner account and started from the back with no q time (lower B/A - B/B lobby there). That was a lot of fun. Went from P16 to P5 at the end, only three seconds from P2, would have needed one or two more laps... Admittedly most of the overtaking was done by cars spinning out around me everywhere, and penalties. I even survived the usual punt attempt, one guy sideswiped me into the barrier when I was cleanly overtaking him after he returned from an off-track excursion. Which made me do the next overtake on him in retaliation mode. 😇 He might want to avoid that stuff next time...

All in all, what a fun track / race combination.

Well, all that blabbering leads to one question: I'm racing with a standard PS4 controller, which is fine for steering, but feels not super precise on throttle and brake control, to get the right amount of input for trailbraking and corner exit. Are there any better, more precise (third party?) controllers available that anyone of you guys can recommend? (no, I will not buy a wheel, my marriage does still mean something to me... 😉)

 

[BigSarj]

I admire everyone who can drive the 911 RSR around Watkins Glen at all, let alone quickly. I love the car, used it in every race at Spa, and it worked fine - after I switched over to not using TC anymore (with TC the rear end feels quite clunky). But in WG, the car I love tries to kill me for no apparent reason. Even at Bus Stop, if I don't hit the entry perfectly, I end up in the barrier. Just can't control it here. Strange.

Went with the Genesis X then, which feels stable as a rock, got a decent qualifying lap for my standards (1:43:2 with maybe half a second to be found in sector 2). But I just didn't dare to do an actual race on my main account, because I don't trust my nerves in tight race situations (yeah, quite embarrassing, I know). So I went to my burner account and started from the back with no q time (lower B/A - B/B lobby there). That was a lot of fun. Went from P16 to P5 at the end, only three seconds from P2, would have needed one or two more laps... Admittedly most of the overtaking was done by cars spinning out around me everywhere, and penalties. I even survived the usual punt attempt, one guy sideswiped me into the barrier when I was cleanly overtaking him after he returned from an off-track excursion. Which made me do the next overtake on him in retaliation mode. 😇 He might want to avoid that stuff next time...

All in all, what a fun track / race combination.

Well, all that blabbering leads to one question: I'm racing with a standard PS4 controller, which is fine for steering, but feels not super precise on throttle and brake control, to get the right amount of input for trailbraking and corner exit. Are there any better, more precise (third party?) controllers available that anyone of you guys can recommend? (no, I will not buy a wheel, my marriage does still mean something to me... 😉)

Move your index fingers way up so you are using the base of your fingers rather than your tips. And you could consider a KontrolFreek for the analog stick. I use it on shooters and it's a big help.

Edit just to say this was the worst day of my GT online career. I'm feeling very dejected. I'll try again tomorrow but that chicane is insane. The Daytona one is way, way easier.

 

[D_Dragline]

My races last night were almost exclusively A+ drivers and almost exclusively M6/Genesis affairs. The participation of top level drivers has gone through the roof this week.

As far as cars go, in top split you simply cannot be competitive in anything but the 2 cars previously mentioned. They are at least half a second a lap quicker than everything else.

In lower splits, I’d still suggest the GTR as a great alternative. The DBR9 is also very quick, but a bit more temperamental. The Hyundai also goes well here.

My experience with the others (Z4, Corvette, Viper etc…) is that they are at least 1 second off the pace.

The Mustang is the only one I haven’t really tried, I haven’t traditionally got along well with it though.

 

[BigSarj]

My races last night were almost exclusively A+ drivers and almost exclusively M6/Genesis affairs. The participation of top level drivers has gone through the roof this week.

As far as cars go, in top split you simply cannot be competitive in anything but the 2 cars previously mentioned. They are at least half a second a lap quicker than everything else.

In lower splits, I’d still suggest the GTR as a great alternative. The DBR9 is also very quick, but a bit more temperamental. The Hyundai also goes well here.

My experience with the others (Z4, Corvette, Viper etc…) is that they are at least 1 second off the pace.

The Mustang is the only one I haven’t really tried, I haven’t traditionally got along well with it though.

Yeah, I did a bunch of testing and, to me, the M6 was far and away the best. I think a lot of my mishaps in the Vette were partly due to pushing too hard, knowing I'm in a lesser car. The GTR was very smooth in time trial so I'll make sure to use it tomorrow at least once. I also really want to show off my livery for it.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Dredge, you are too fast to use those safe cars, you need something faster. I set my q time with th aston, but in race, will settle for something safer. Even 3 tenths slower is just 3 seconds, ill lose 10 with a spin.

 

[D_Dragline]

Dredge, you are too fast to use those safe cars, you need something faster. I set my q time with th aston, but in race, will settle for something safer. Even 3 tenths slower is just 3 seconds, ill lose 10 with a spin.

I'm using the M6 in race. It's a beast. Nothing lower than p3 in 4 races last night. I'm unusually strong at this track.

 

[Stilva]

I was excited that Watkins Glen, a track that is a 2.5 hour drive from my hometown, was being added to the game. Unfortunately I'm having a tough time making decent lap times. I feel so slow around the track and I'm having some problems keeping my lines tight to the apex of most of the corners. The bus stop is giving me the most trouble, I cannot get that section down at all. I started in the Mustang and set a time of 1:44.3XX after a few hours. Tried a bunch of different cars but couldn't replicate my times. I went with the META BMW and got my time down to 1:43.9XX which was my goal. I'll go back to the Mustang and see what happens. The track is great, I just need to turn more laps and find what works for me.

It's also crazy seeing all the Sahlen's logos around the track as that company was founded in my hometown. Never thought I would see that in Gran Turismo ever.

 

[BigSarj]

I was excited that Watkins Glen, a track that is a 2.5 hour drive from my hometown, was being added to the game. Unfortunately I'm having a tough time making decent lap times. I feel so slow around the track and I'm having some problems keeping my lines tight to the apex of most of the corners. The bus stop is giving me the most trouble, I cannot get that section down at all. I started in the Mustang and set a time of 1:44.3XX after a few hours. Tried a bunch of different cars but couldn't replicate my times. I went with the META BMW and got my time down to 1:43.9XX which was my goal. I'll go back to the Mustang and see what happens. The track is great, I just need to turn more laps and find what works for me.

It's also crazy seeing all the Sahlen's logos around the track as that company was founded in my hometown. Never thought I would see that in Gran Turismo ever.

The chicane can be brutal. Also, I have vague memories of going to the Corning museum once when I was a kid.

 

[D_Dragline]

Move your index fingers way up so you are using the base of your fingers rather than your tips. And you could consider a KontrolFreek for the analog stick. I use it on shooters and it's a big help.

Edit just to say this was the worst day of my GT online career. I'm feeling very dejected. I'll try again tomorrow but that chicane is insane. The Daytona one is way, way easier.

I was excited that Watkins Glen, a track that is a 2.5 hour drive from my hometown, was being added to the game. Unfortunately I'm having a tough time making decent lap times. I feel so slow around the track and I'm having some problems keeping my lines tight to the apex of most of the corners. The bus stop is giving me the most trouble, I cannot get that section down at all. I started in the Mustang and set a time of 1:44.3XX after a few hours. Tried a bunch of different cars but couldn't replicate my times. I went with the META BMW and got my time down to 1:43.9XX which was my goal. I'll go back to the Mustang and see what happens. The track is great, I just need to turn more laps and find what works for me.

It's also crazy seeing all the Sahlen's logos around the track as that company was founded in my hometown. Never thought I would see that in Gran Turismo ever.

The chicane is tough initially, but once you find the rhythm it's pretty straight forward. Light braking and turn in at the 250 to balance the car, heavily abuse the first kerb, turn into the second kerb early and aggressively and then accelerate, heavily abuse the final 2 kerbs.

BTW, what is with the distance boards here? Are they in feet? It was very discombobulating early on when I was braking at 200 for a 3rd gear turn.

 

[BigSarj]

The chicane is tough initially, but once you find the rhythm it's pretty straight forward. Light braking and turn in at the 250 to balance the car, heavily abuse the first kerb, turn into the second kerb early and aggressively and then accelerate, heavily abuse the final 2 kerbs.

BTW, what is with the distance boards here? Are they in feet? It was very discombobulating early on when I was braking at 200 for a 3rd gear turn.

Yeah, it feels good when I get it. And I'll get it eventually.

And, yes, feet. So about a third of a metre. I keep trying to use the Chevy post on the right as a reference *for the chicane but haven't quite figured it out yet.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Yeah in race I am having trouble rotating the car to the left for the chicane. If I enter tobthe right too slow i get eaten alive, too fast and I can't rotate.

Z4 makes hay exiting the uphill right into the penalty zone, as folks tyres wear I can still gun it full throttle. The problem is the fast right after the chicane, too much understeer, can't find the apex .

 

[xMAXIx79]

I think at least for me the key is at the chicane.... Apply the brakes briefly for the first right, which is taken very "lightly"...but DO NOT stay on the brakes if it goes on the curbs for the first right . Then brake very slightly again and steer to the left, don't drive by eye but by feel, you have to align the car before you see the curve.
Correct braking is important, if you brake too hard too late and then drive over the first curb with your brakes on for the first right, then the wheels behind them lock and the steering becomes unclean and/or the rear breaks out.
Go through the chicane there with a little throttle to use the engine brake without locking the rear wheels.

 

[Machinist757]

I just hit A+, oh lord..

 

[NikNakTobasco]

just to say this was the worst day of my GT online career. I'm feeling very dejected. I'll try again tomorrow but that chicane is insane. The Daytona one is way, way easier

It’s been a tough couple of days for me too. Last 6 races, 3 last places 2 p10 and a p8. Doesn’t help that I’ve usually got a bunch of world tour yobbos starting at the back but aside from one time where I got pit manoeuvred, all the poor results are my own fault. Either making mistakes and being too slow or outright binning it. The fact my DR bar has barely moved shows how stacked the rooms are right now.

 

[D_Dragline]

Yeah, it feels good when I get it. And I'll get it eventually.

And, yes, feet. So about a third of a metre. I keep trying to use the Chevy post on the right as a reference *for the chicane but haven't quite figured it out yet.

That sign is way too late. I brake halfway between the 300 board and the marshall box on the left.

 

[Mercia]

Yeah, it feels good when I get it. And I'll get it eventually.

And, yes, feet. So about a third of a metre. I keep trying to use the Chevy post on the right as a reference *for the chicane but haven't quite figured it out yet.

From cockpit view it's a terrifying section, you're so limited in what you can see going in so I've tended to tap the brake as I pass the 200 marker then again once I've swung the first right just to help get the car back over to the left on a decent line for the the final part, it's losing time I'm sure but it at least keeps me consistent through there and driving DR B at the moment that ends up gaining time as others mess it up.