GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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It doesn’t make much sense to hold up people in these current daily races, they’re basically sprints and it won’t help much the final result of someone doing a long stint.

If we ever get proper endurance races, however, I am turning into Monaco Alonso, none shall pass.
 
@Talon16 this is what I already do. I don’t fight a faster car as it just pointless and you end up destroying your race. When I’m on an alternative strategy if a quicker car is behind I’m not just giving up the place for free and will still drive my lines as I don’t want to lose time to allow others through, but when the car behind is close enough to make a pass I will either will keep well to the side of road and I leave space on the inside of the corner to allow them to pass
This pretty much sums up my approach on the no-stop strategy. The funny thing I’ve noticed is that in the A/B lobbies everyone is doing no-stoppers with a rare one stop, and it’s just the opposite in the C lobbies. When my driver rating dropped (because I’m horrible at this track!) back to C I was stunned that I was the only person not stopping. I was also finishing much worse that when I was racing A+ drivers because the C guys weee just running me off the road several times a race. There is no recovery for that when you’re trying not to stop. Very frustrating!

But I guess I haven’t quit entirely as I said I would. I had a P5 last night no-stopping in the BRZ which is agile enough and torquey enough to avoid the idiots, and it’s great on fuel! So now I’m back at it again today.

 
This pretty much sums up my approach on the no-stop strategy. The funny thing I’ve noticed is that in the A/B lobbies everyone is doing no-stoppers with a rare one stop, and it’s just the opposite in the C lobbies. When my driver rating dropped (because I’m horrible at this track!) back to C I was stunned that I was the only person not stopping. I was also finishing much worse that when I was racing A+ drivers because the C guys weee just running me off the road several times a race. There is no recovery for that when you’re trying not to stop. Very frustrating!

But I guess I haven’t quit entirely as I said I would. I had a P5 last night no-stopping in the BRZ which is agile enough and torquey enough to avoid the idiots, and it’s great on fuel! So now I’m back at it again today.


Yeah, I was surprised reading here that so many people were doing 1-stoppers. I've barely seen any pitstop happening in A+/A lobbies...
 
Yeah, I was surprised reading here that so many people were doing 1-stoppers. I've barely seen any pitstop happening in A+/A lobbies...
You won’t because it’s a superior strategy. The reason this doesn’t work in a C lobby is because of a lesser skill and, I noticed, an absence of patience. I think they both go together in driving, and the A drivers are patient enough to practice and also to know when to choose their battles and make their moves, and when to yield.

I’m amazed at the stark difference in lobbies. The B/C guys I’m now with are just all out, all the time and they don’t realize that all their stupid shenanigans are costing EVERYONE INVOLVED time in the race. It’s a waste of time trying to punt people and shove them around when you can simply wait until the end of an s-curve and then just pass someone cleanly.
 
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The no stop is the only viable strategy in race C. I am seeing occasional A+ drivers one stopping and they are typically 20 seconds off the pace.

I find the key in strategy is also in how you manage your fuel saving. If you’re starting near the front It’s possible to run a couple of flat out laps early, clear out from the mayhem and still be able to manage fuel in the back end of the race. If you’re middle to back, you can let the no stoppers by without any fight at all, conserve a lot early and then come home with a few flat out laps. It’s always better to lose 2 tenths by bailing out of a corner than 3 seconds recovering from a punt.
 
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Let's say I wanted to do some practice for next week's races. And let's say that I've modified the tunes on my cars to race the world circuit events. Is there any way to know what the BoP settings would be for my cars?
In GT Sport it was so easy. Just click a button.
 
The biggest difference that I’ve seen between A+/A lobbies and B/C/D lobbies is the average lap time and consistency. After watching a few live YT streams the A drivers are able to consistently do the same lap time over 10 laps. Also all 16 drivers are doing about the same average lap time. In B/C/D the average lap times are not as consistent and the lap times are quite varied.
This is why 1 stops are common in B/C/D lobbies as people find it easier to just run a full speed plus with people making mistakes or fuel savers maybe not been quick enough they can easily pit and catch up.
 
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Let's say I wanted to do some practice for next week's races. And let's say that I've modified the tunes on my cars to race the world circuit events. Is there any way to know what the BoP settings would be for my cars?
In GT Sport it was so easy. Just click a button.
I believe the GR.2 class runs at 100/100?🍻 Can you create a lobby with b.o.p?
 
Let's say I wanted to do some practice for next week's races. And let's say that I've modified the tunes on my cars to race the world circuit events. Is there any way to know what the BoP settings would be for my cars?
In GT Sport it was so easy. Just click a button.
You can create a private lobby and apply BOP
 
Yeah, I was surprised reading here that so many people were doing 1-stoppers. I've barely seen any pitstop happening in A+/A lobbies...
In C lobbies, i have seen that it is almost necessary to 1 stop because they will run you off aplenty especially on 1st chicane
 
In C lobbies, i have seen that it is almost necessary to 1 stop because they will run you off aplenty especially on 1st chicane
I just tried to do a one stop in a C/D lobby (this is how bad this track has been for me) because I was tired of getting clobbered when I was no-stopping. So instead this time . . . I got clobbered and found myself in last. At least with a no-stop approach I know that if I'm in last now, I won't be later because while everyone else stops I'll just keep on trucking. When I got punted in the 1-stop approach and was in last there was absolutely no hope of doing anything other than finish last. I ended up doing something I never do: I just quit on lap 3. I was in last anyway and all the flakes had already left the race, so I was going to lose all those points anyway. I should be rated D again by tomorrow . . . .

Actually, I'm just done with this stupid track. Unless people know what they're doing it's an ugly mess. I don't want to become an aggressive bully just to compete, so it's probably best that I just stay out.

This is so disappointing because I absolutely LOVED the Watkins Glen event last week.

Edit: Does anybody know if there’s a way to erase your qualifying time in the daily race? I’d rather be starting from the rear this week and stupidly recorded a quali time.
 
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Edit: Does anybody know if there’s a way to erase your qualifying time in the daily race? I’d rather be starting from the rear this week and stupidly recorded a quali time.
There isn't. But, once the race starts just pull over and let everyone go by until you're in the position you want to be.
 
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I agree with all points posted here.

@xMAXIx79 i agree that due to me been slower I will be holding up other drivers on faster strategies, and I have been that driver before stuck behind a slower driver and yes it is frustrating been held up, but as @Fezzik says, it’s up to driver behind on the alternate strategy to pass fairly and cleanly. I have no issues with some making small contact as long as they make the move in the correct way. It’s when they are desperate for the pass that they just send it from far back and ive already committed to the corner.

@Talon16 this is what I already do. I don’t fight a faster car as it just pointless and you end up destroying your race. When I’m on an alternative strategy if a quicker car is behind I’m not just giving up the place for free and will still drive my lines as I don’t want to lose time to allow others through, but when the car behind is close enough to make a pass I will either will keep well to the side of road and I leave space on the inside of the corner to allow them to pass.


I was NOT trying to say or imply in my post that it's OK to push a "slower driver" out with a dive bomb....I was just saying that what feels like a dive bomb...doesn't necessarily have to be one since the faster driver also carries more speed into the curve and possibly does not take his tires into account. It is also the case that the faster rider wants and has to keep his pace.


On the subject... "deserving an overhaul" I'll just say... Yes you can try.... If the slower one in front of me is so good and fast that he can keep me behind him with normal driving... that's it acceptable for me.. if the driver in front of me changes the line umpteen times and makes it impossible for me to overtake cleanly... honestly, then he flies out in the next bend, at the latest in the next but one curve. Because .. first of all, I don't let myself be fooled.. secondly, someone usually comes from behind who takes advantage of the situation and overtakes me and has pushed me away often enough.
 
I was NOT trying to say or imply in my post that it's OK to push a "slower driver" out with a dive bomb....I was just saying that what feels like a dive bomb...doesn't necessarily have to be one since the faster driver also carries more speed into the curve and possibly does not take his tires into account. It is also the case that the faster rider wants and has to keep his pace.


On the subject... "deserving an overhaul" I'll just say... Yes you can try.... If the slower one in front of me is so good and fast that he can keep me behind him with normal driving... that's it acceptable for me.. if the driver in front of me changes the line umpteen times and makes it impossible for me to overtake cleanly... honestly, then he flies out in the next bend, at the latest in the next but one curve. Because .. first of all, I don't let myself be fooled.. secondly, someone usually comes from behind who takes advantage of the situation and overtakes me and has pushed me away often enough.
Think we both got our wires crossed here. Yeah I wasnt criticising you or implying mine or your way is the correct way drive. Just stating that even though I’m on a different strategy both drivers still deserve the same respect on the track and it should be a clean fair fight. Its just when the faster cars think they can do what they like.
I’ve been in the same position where I’m the faster driver and I’ve carried more speed into a corner and accidentally bumped the rear ended of the car infront and I will slow down to make sure they are infront again, but a lot of them bump and think it was fair and carry on.
 
There isn't. But, once the race starts just pull over and let everyone go by until you're in the position you want to be.
Thanks. I blame you for convincing me to post a quali time in the first place! 🤨

Edit: and let’s face it, the other drivers are doing it for me anyway by the end of turn two!!!
 
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Think we both got our wires crossed here. Yeah I wasnt criticising you or implying mine or your way is the correct way drive. Just stating that even though I’m on a different strategy both drivers still deserve the same respect on the track and it should be a clean fair fight. Its just when the faster cars think they can do what they like.
I’ve been in the same position where I’m the faster driver and I’ve carried more speed into a corner and accidentally bumped the rear ended of the car infront and I will slow down to make sure they are infront again, but a lot of them bump and think it was fair and carry on.

Don't worry.. I understood you correctly.. the 2nd paragraph wasn't meant for you... Live and let live also applies to me.... but some just can't do it.. whether defender or attacker.. .and I don't understand jokes anymore. Seen very well in Race B. Those horrible Alfa's are a disaster...they're mostly no faster than I've seen on the bark time..but in the infield 9 out of 10 drivers of these things lead like kings and ram you out every curve, no matter how tight... that's not just ridiculous in my eyes... it also makes me very angry... I get really aggressive with guys like that. The Alfa crutches can't do anything in the race if they can't use the slipstream on the long straights.
 
I know it's not going to make the news but just had one of the most fun Race B's in ages.

Wanted to just enjoy it so I chose a car which is 2 seconds a lap slower but I love to drive, the McLaren 620 Gr 4.

Started 2nd and had to defend almost all race. Finished 3rd after making a small mistake but the racing was clean from everyone. Well almost, a donkey tried to ram everyone off but he got so many penalties he was soon irrelevant 🤣

Also, who is trying the Fuji F1 time trial? Car and track are a great match! Best so far is 1:23 flat on my 2nd account after about 7 laps. Will spend more time on it tomorrow. Quite like it.
 
I also had a very nice race C earlier.
It may not be spectacular to watch as nothing really happened, but I was under pressure from P2 and P3 for the majority of the race, but I was able to continue the regular fuel saving in the BRZ. Towards the end the Beetles lost touch as their tires were falling off the cliff.

In GT Sport and other racing games my biggest flaw was that I often made big errors when I got pressure from behind, so I'm quite happy it wasn't the case this time. Quite the opposite, with a 19:26 this was my fastest race time so far this week

 
The Bugatti Veyron I'm assuming with over 1200 hp can enter Race A. I raced in my Viper with the Bugatti in second and it passed me bu the exit of turn 1. Whatever the current tune is it makes it almost wrecking loose, but it goes almost 220 mph. In the best hands and especially if the tune can be improved, it may be capable of 1:07 laps. I can't figure out the tune though, glitching is way different for each car.
 
I know I'm screaming into the void here but can we please have more than 3 'daily' races? I'm not big on the tuning races, Interlagos gets boring quickly and I don't have the patience to bother with fuel management

How about 2 races of each that rotate weekly, 2 tracks without BoP or DR/SR changes, 2 GR.3/4 sprints, and 2 GR.2/1 tyre management races
 
No Idea how people have got the GTR to the top of the Race B leaderboards, feels very sluggish and riddled with understeer to me.
I've got pole position on C lobbies using the 155. I used the GTR once to get a change of pace and got smoked by a Supra GR4 and a gang of 155s.
 
Also, who is trying the Fuji F1 time trial? Car and track are a great match! Best so far is 1:23 flat on my 2nd account after about 7 laps. Will spend more time on it tomorrow. Quite like it.

Yes, it's a good one. Tried it yesterday and have a similar laptime as you now, with maybe half a second left on the track. But holy cr*p, that's still almost four seconds slower than the current record. How is a 1:19 flat even physically possible? There isn't a single sector on the track where I don't fly off when I try to go any faster.
In the last one, i was able to get gold (just barely, 2,98%), can't see that being the case here.
All in all, I like this format.
 
No Idea how people have got the GTR to the top of the Race B leaderboards, feels very sluggish and riddled with understeer to me.

Have they? That's surprising. I used the GTR too in the beginning. Even liked how it drives around there, found a good rhythm and set what I considered an almost mistake-free quali lap (for my humble standars).
Than I tried the Alfa and was 0.8 sec. quicker on the first lap. Hmm...

Still mostly avoid the race on my first account.
 
Surprise surprise the guy chirping about clean racing in the pre-race lobby is getting called out for dirty driving and quickly exits the room after the race :lol:

It's always these guys.

That's why I never say anything more than "Hi" or "Hello" in the pre-race chat...😇
 
I know I'm screaming into the void here but can we please have more than 3 'daily' races? I'm not big on the tuning races, Interlagos gets boring quickly and I don't have the patience to bother with fuel management

How about 2 races of each that rotate weekly, 2 tracks without BoP or DR/SR changes, 2 GR.3/4 sprints, and 2 GR.2/1 tyre management races
Before this happens they need to improve performance cross platform and then get rid of console split in dailies. Maybe then more races will work, otherwise I think splitting the same group of people up into more races will just mean there are fewer people with about the same speed as you to race against. That's already a problem now.

Maybe rather have the races change during the week, e.g. on Thursdays so there's a bit more variety
 
There was an A+ driver in the race C lobbies i was in earlier, he didn't pit, set fastest lap at 1.56 and finished 35 seconds ahead of 2nd place (A rated driver, i was 3rd)....he was in the Beetle. No idea how he did that......

As for Race B, i thought at start of the week the GTR would be the best car, but it seems that only the top drivers are able to make it work.
 
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Enjoying Race A, seeing which old muscle cars can compete. Not so much with the leaders who will take it all too seriously but just to bang around with at the back at a lovely sunny Watkins Glen, good fun!

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Enjoying Race A, seeing which old muscle cars can compete. Not so much with the leaders who will take it all too seriously but just to bang around with at the back at a lovely sunny Watkins Glen, good fun!

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Me too - using the 69 Corvette, which has given me a few podiums, plus a win when the guy in P1 did the classic victory spin around 20 yards before the finish line! Such a shame after he'd done the no QT drive from the back in one of the 'cheat' cars 🤣
 
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