GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Got in a couple rounds at Race C this morning in the Megane Trophy, with a mix of A+ all the way down to D in the same lobby. Went from P6 to P3 each race, quite uneventfully in the first race but in the second there was one guy who used my backend as a brake early on with no penalty, dropping me a couple spots. I was able to recover and get ahead of him again after he pitted, but lo and behold on one of the last laps he used me as a brake again. Didn't have enough time to catch him again but it was so very satisfying upon crossing the finish line to see that he didn't use RH and had the 1 minute time penalty.
 
I set the first times with one of my favorites... I think I should still be able to do it under 1.30... then it will be difficult. What is the fuel consumption in the race? Do you have to save if you want to drive 0 stops?


Btw: BMW M4
Have you raced the M4 yet? How is it on fuel?
Must have been a glitch then, I was pretty pissed off! Wouldn't be the first glitch though.
If you rented the car, it may have defaulted to starting you on RM and if you didn't notice you would have "broken" the rules by not stopping. Just a guess . . .
 
Do you happen to know about when that sheet was posted? Because me Beetle was nerfed couple updates ago, and the scirocco has forever been at 301hp, while supra was beasted ridiculously..i do run other cars but its hard to compete against a supra lobby and i refuse to be a meta only user just to win, in my opinion,this why some dont do well with other cars when there is not a clear meta car or the alfa,wrx, & supra arent track supreme, because without using the meta, they arent very good drivers to win, and you see them all over the road or pushing us off the road to win lol
Anything that's a stationary move to the left, a stationary move straight up, or a combination of the two is a positive net.
I know what you mean, but I think it's nice for PD to show us that just because Race A is going to be unranked for the time being doesn't mean that we can't still have ranked Race A-type options.
I have a feeling it's going to be the one and only time you see non-GR-rated cars in Race B or C. They have THREE more categories they never touch, why shove a car comparable to my VW I drive around car into Race B when it's clearly a Race A type car based on how they've always done it. Pointless. Could be a test to see how Grid Start works in Race B and C, but why not just do it? What's the worst that could happen everyone's done about 100 of them so far in Campaign.
 
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Race B is more fun than i thought. Because you have to concentrate more one your driving style with that car without TCS.

Sorry for whoever came last in my race 90 Minutes ago. I had to fight with my car and just felt a slight Rumble in the controller. Next moment i saw the guy behind me with 8 second gap instead of 0,5. No idea what happened but i was all over the place.
 
Did 1 Race B. My messages are stuck.

Started 3rd/finished 8th. Very good racing. Got hit from behind on lap 7 but same car was behind me for 6 laps so I know it was an accident. Anyways they said sorry but i couldn't send a message back. I probably require a reboot.
 
you can actually have BoP with setup but they never do that.
I do a league race where we do Bop with set up allowed, IE HP and weight are BoP but you can setup the car with suspension, gearing, aero, LSD brake, brake balance.
They should allow this on the Race Cs, would be fun
 
Actually there's some "bonus" DR scores to get whenever a player step up to the next level, they'll get an extra 1500 points, to prevent suddenly dropping back to the previous level. like you step up from 49900, and win a race and get 500 points, the DR after the race will be 51900 instead of 50400.

That mechanism make the DR pool keep growing. The real killer was the "DR reset" previously existing in GT SPORT.

Back then, if an A+ player accidently got a bad race, they could easily lose over thousands DR point in one race, and those point weren't be acquired by anyone, they just vanished.
You lose then 1500 bonus points again when you go down a level, but true an A+ driver has added 8,000 total to the pool. But has taken over 42K from other players to get there.

DR resets indeed pump points out of the system, however points come in at the bottom. You can't go below 1 DR while people with only 1 point still pay out to those that finish ahead of them. It's the same at the top, can't go over 99,999, the extra gains are lost. Yet there are a magnitude more players at 1 DR than there are at 99,999 DR.

Whether DR resets and points getting added at the bottom balance each other out is only for PD to know. I guess @Milouse could theoretically find out by polling all players and adding all their DR up, divide by number of players to get avg DR per player. Then do it again a month later and see if it has increased or decreased. There are just too many players though to make an accurate snapshot. You can't poll 10 million players or even just the active players (if you can figure that out first) in between 2 race slots, before points get updated again. PD could tell, and since they're letting the DR resets be, I guess they're fine with the balance. (Or just don't care)

DR reset is still in GT7 btw, I used it to compare pa4 and ps5 player pools on the Nordschleife.

The DR pool in GT7 is ~half brought over from GT Sport so even more guess work there. Then there are all the inactive players, those that just did 50 races for the trophy. They added 2,000 DR, what were they at when they were done with the trophy.
 
You lose then 1500 bonus points again when you go down a level, but true an A+ driver has added 8,000 total to the pool. But has taken over 42K from other players to get there.

DR resets indeed pump points out of the system, however points come in at the bottom. You can't go below 1 DR while people with only 1 point still pay out to those that finish ahead of them. It's the same at the top, can't go over 99,999, the extra gains are lost. Yet there are a magnitude more players at 1 DR than there are at 99,999 DR.

Whether DR resets and points getting added at the bottom balance each other out is only for PD to know. I guess @Milouse could theoretically find out by polling all players and adding all their DR up, divide by number of players to get avg DR per player. Then do it again a month later and see if it has increased or decreased. There are just too many players though to make an accurate snapshot. You can't poll 10 million players or even just the active players (if you can figure that out first) in between 2 race slots, before points get updated again. PD could tell, and since they're letting the DR resets be, I guess they're fine with the balance. (Or just don't care)

DR reset is still in GT7 btw, I used it to compare pa4 and ps5 player pools on the Nordschleife.

The DR pool in GT7 is ~half brought over from GT Sport so even more guess work there. Then there are all the inactive players, those that just did 50 races for the trophy. They added 2,000 DR, what were they at when they were done with the trophy.
So less than 15K active daily, I've been guessing around 10-12K or even less, I never in my life saw an A driver in in a C/S lobby in Sport but just the other day I was in the high splits in C and had a A driver on pole. I can get into B depending on the track but I'll eventually fall back down when there's a "bad" week for me.
 
Crazy to think back when Bathurst was first used in a daily race I complained it was a stupid track and a stupid race.
After some helpful input from people on here I managed to learn the track properly and actually started to enjoy the race towards the end of the week. Fast forward to today and well…… only gone and got a win. Shame it’s was a no DR race.
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Enjoying this weeks daily races so far.
Daily A is just so intense. At the top of the course you have to on it 100% to make out the other end.
Daily B not done yet
Daily C is great. Glad they used the Gr4 cars for this track as I think they are the perfect car for the track. The high fuel wear with mandatory tyre and people using different approaches (especially in my B rank lobby) has made this race fun. If I can be a bit more consistent with race hopefully I can boost my DR ranking on my main account.

Happy racing people!
 
I tried Race C with the Atenza. It is quite good on fuel. I started on RH, went to pits after lap 1 for mediums and a little splash of fuel. I went the whole race on FM1 and was not fuel saving. With a little bit of fuel saving you don't need to refuel.
 
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Man I suck at Bathurst. I am enjoying using the McLaren on this track as it's quite good. Problem is it's a slug on the straights. I feel like a sitting duck at teh very beginning of the race; come out of T1 and just losing time like crazy. Of the two races I did with it, I got passed once and almost passed the second time (I would've if not for defending into T2).

That being said, I did get a win on the #1 account in the WRX. Might be the only one of the week in A. :boggled:
 
Why would the Nissan have such big problems on other tracks with shorter straights?
Not only is its top speed really impressive, its handling and general acceleration aren't bad either, and the same goes for the Supra.

But it is much more important that PD first achieves a reasonable balance between the vehicles, which is still NOT the case. Some need basic handling revisions, others need more power/less weight, or some vehicles should be weakened a bit. The patch I think it was 1.13 that gave the Supra so much more power clearly showed that they overshot the mark here. Before the said patch, the Supra in Monza was hardly able to drive well over 260, after the patch the Supra eclipsed the entire field in terms of top speed with well over 270, with good handling and acceptable consumption at the same time, just a to good car. So a few vehicles need to be further weakened.. or many vehicles need an urgent upgrade.
For example the Supra vs M6 at Watkins Glen. The Supra is a good all-rounder but lacks on some tracks with shorter straights. Same will probably be true of the new Nissan. Nurb Gr3 I prefer the FT1 or RCZ over the Supra and that's saying something because I usually love a better top speed over anything.
 
I have a feeling it's going to be the one and only time you see non-GR-rated cars in Race B or C. They have THREE more categories they never touch, why shove a car comparable to my VW I drive around car into Race B when it's clearly a Race A type car based on how they've always done it. Pointless.
I think "pointless" is a bit strong.

In GT Sport I was one of many 'Race A aficionados' and I think, assuming they decide to keep the Non DR/SR format, that they MUST rotate some road car races into B and C occasionally.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the thrill of Racing Cars but they always strike me as requiring a similar skillset which can easily be transposed across different classes. Road Cars, on the other hand, tend to have their own personality and as such have to be learned on an ad-hoc basis. Either way, it's all part of the beautiful tapestry of motor sport (virtual, I know).

I understand it's not for everyone but there's my 2 cents
 
Defo didn't foresee the G70 being the car to pick for doing TT in Race C, nor the Suzuki for that matter (but in hindsight it kinda makes sense). Initially i was faster in the Swift doing a 1.29.5 but then i focussed on just using the G70 and i got my time down to 1.29.3.....my optimum lap was 1.28.9 which would of put me in Top 100 but i probably could of spent hours and hours trying to reach that, Brands is pretty unforgiving, takes loads of concentration....so i doubt i'd ever be able to do a perfect lap.
Did do one race, it had an Alfa, Swift, Silvia, Lexus, M4, me in the Audi and yeah quite a few Trophys, there is so many options you can choose from and be competitive with.

I haven't done one of these for a while, a quick compilation of adventures and misadventures from todays race A:



Great video, kinda in awe at how you drove that thing round there...you made it look so easy. If any of the rest of you have never driven the Gr3 Lambo have a go at it in Race A and then come back to this video and you'll see what i mean.
 
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What's that? It's time for some Slophy action at Brands Hatch?! This is a familiar combo from back in the GT Sport days and I know my way around this track with the Megane Trophy. It did take me a while to get my bearings, but I managed a 1:31.4XX so far with a 1:31.1XX on the optimal if I remember correctly. I'd like to dip into the 1:30s if possible and I think I can with some more laps. Just need to put my custom livery on the car and I'm good for some racing.
 
Have you raced the M4 yet? How is it on fuel?

If you rented the car, it may have defaulted to starting you on RM and if you didn't notice you would have "broken" the rules by not stopping. Just a guess . . .
No, I haven't done a single race yet, I don't really like BH either, so my Q times are far from where I would like to be/should be AND as long as this is the case, I won't race, especially not when I I still make so many mistakes with brakes ectr on my Q laps. I also did a few laps in the G70 yesterday, which is "interesting" to drive. Amazingly it's not really faster than the M4 90-95% of the time on the track (at least for me) but with the G70 I've already been going under 1:30 and I realized there's still a lot more to go. ( Optimum was 1.28.8xx after ~10 laps )
 
I haven't done one of these for a while, a quick compilation of adventures and misadventures from todays race A:


I didn’t make the cut 🥲! You had really good pace with that lambo. Your one man crusade against the meta is impressive! Races have been mostly clean which is nice to see for a no DR race but deadeye had to contend with a right nutter in front of me so I’m awaiting his video on that.
 
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I didn’t make the cut 🥲! You had really good pace with that lambo. Your one man crusade against the meta is impressive! Races have been mostly clean which is nice to see for a no DR race but deadeye had to contend with a right nutter in front of me so I’m awaiting his video on that.
What is "the meta"?
 
Daily C is great. Glad they used the Gr4 cars for this track as I think they are the perfect car for the track. The high fuel wear with mandatory tyre and people using different approaches (especially in my B rank lobby) has made this race fun. If I can be a bit more consistent with race hopefully I can boost my DR ranking on my main account.

Happy racing people!
How are you finding the Megane on fuel in Race C? Or are you running something else in race?

Gr 4 is definitely good here, gives a little more margin for error meaning we can chuck them around a bit more than usual at Brands and still have a bit of room before putting a tire in the grass (always my big fear here in Gr 3).

I still a limited selection of Gr 4's but some cash available to spend, just looking for as little fuel management as possible but the Alfa inhales it unfortunately :lol: even on the lowest mix.
 
How are you finding the Megane on fuel in Race C? Or are you running something else in race?

Gr 4 is definitely good here, gives a little more margin for error meaning we can chuck them around a bit more than usual at Brands and still have a bit of room before putting a tire in the grass (always my big fear here in Gr 3).

I still a limited selection of Gr 4's but some cash available to spend, just looking for as little fuel management as possible but the Alfa inhales it unfortunately :lol: even on the lowest mix.
I haven't tested it yet...but purely from the gut, IF you drive it "right" ( ShortShift ), the M4 should be quite economical, since you never really turn it off.

Yes, I believe that the Alfa has a high consumption immediately, it also revs really very, very high.
 
Great video, kinda in awe at how you drove that thing round there...you made it look so easy. If any of the rest of you have never driven the Gr3 Lambo have a go at it in Race A and then come back to this video and you'll see what i mean.
It's honestly not that bad, I was expecting it to be a nightmare but once you get used to it's quirks going down the hill it's actually pretty forgiving. Fast too, in the right hands I'm sure it's almost as quick as the Beetle and Supra.

I didn’t make the cut 🥲! You had really good pace with that lambo. Your one man crusade against the meta is impressive! Races have been mostly clean which is nice to see for a no DR race but deadeye had to contend with a right nutter in front of me so I’m awaiting his video on that.
I couldn't put you in there because I haven't got close since the Daytona oval race 🙈. If the meta is ever something a)real b) fun to drive and c) comes in a colour I like I'll race it.

Deadeye has been having a load of disconnects recently, hopefully he got to the end enough times to have something worth uploading 🤞
 
Jaguar seemed alright for race C, it had pretty decent qualifying pace, well, close to the Meganes anyway - that G70 seems like a beast with those times.

Did one race in it last night and pulled off a 3rd, though of course lots of variables in that so I'll have to do more races to truly know.

That race B though... god I love it.
 
How are you finding the Megane on fuel in Race C? Or are you running something else in race?

Gr 4 is definitely good here, gives a little more margin for error meaning we can chuck them around a bit more than usual at Brands and still have a bit of room before putting a tire in the grass (always my big fear here in Gr 3).

I still a limited selection of Gr 4's but some cash available to spend, just looking for as little fuel management as possible but the Alfa inhales it unfortunately :lol: even on the lowest mix.
I've been driving the Mégane flat out on mediums and during the pit stop I've had to add 1 lap of fuel in.
Apparently if you short shift (to the suggested gear) you can save that 1 lap of fuel, which then saves you about 2/3 seconds in the pit lane.

Yeah I did a gr3 race here other day and the narrow track just meant every corner you had no room for error.
 
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