GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Whether DR resets and points getting added at the bottom balance each other out is only for PD to know. I guess @Milouse could theoretically find out by polling all players and adding all their DR up, divide by number of players to get avg DR per player. Then do it again a month later and see if it has increased or decreased.
Here's what i can do. It's based on a sample (1/200 th players). Not active players, all players that played at least 5 races in Sport Mode so they have a pool of DR points.

2022-08-02
7,287,363,600 pts ( 5249 pts / player)

2021-08-02
6,268,053,000 ( 4983 pts / player)

2020-08-03
5,161,688,200 (4913 pts / player)

2019-08-05
3,576,795,400 ( 4459 pts / player)

2018-08-06
2,830,980,600 ( 4587 pts / player)

It's fortunate that i refreshed the global stats just a few hours before seeing your messages.
gts sport mode activity seems to stabilize btw
 
Just had a great race with a Canadian, Cal Naughton Jr as a screen name.
I wanted to type Shake and Bake but wasn't finished when he left.
I was right on his tail for a lap at least then on skyline on the last lap I think he either got unlucky or the pressure got to him, he got a tire on the curb, scraped the wall and went off so I could pass
If you're in here: thank you for the best race all night. And I have been going for 4 hours....

Edit: I finished P3, and started as P8
 
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Had some really fun race As today. I had a win in the bag but halfway through lap five started day dreaming while driving and Bathurst isn't the place for that. :lol:

Race two was a ton of fun. Great, clean fighting between myself, a Brazilian in an Evo (Astreiro), and an American in the McLaren F1 (shmacked sloth). P1 drove off, but all of us were battling for 2nd. Everything was super clean. (I ended up with P2 if you're wondering.)

Also got some screen time with our favorite British streamer. Was some good side-by-side action, which is always fun. Timestamped vid below:

 
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Here's what i can do. It's based on a sample (1/200 th players). Not active players, all players that played at least 5 races in Sport Mode so they have a pool of DR points.

2022-08-02
7,287,363,600 pts ( 5249 pts / player)

2021-08-02
6,268,053,000 ( 4983 pts / player)

2020-08-03
5,161,688,200 (4913 pts / player)

2019-08-05
3,576,795,400 ( 4459 pts / player)

2018-08-06
2,830,980,600 ( 4587 pts / player)

It's fortunate that i refreshed the global stats just a few hours before seeing your messages.
gts sport mode activity seems to stabilize btw
Awesome. That looks like 3.4% yearly inflation rate. It became easier to reach A+ as DR points became worth less over time, and I thought I was getting better :lol:

It makes sense, people tend to avoid DR resets while every race slot has people competing at the very bottom, adding more points to the pool 5 times per hour. The rarity of a player going over 99,999 points can easily be ignored, yet every race there will be a couple DR D players going below 1 and get set to minimum 1 DR again.

Still 25% of the active players stuck with GT Sport after GT7 released. Good news for PD is, at least it didn't go back up, which is actually bad news since it definitely feels the active player pool in GT7 is much smaller:ouch:
 
I was going to join in some Race C this evening, but I could not keep my car on the track during practice. I don't know what happened since yesterday, but I was having all types of trouble. It's like I was driving a completely different car. I barely got my time down to 1:31.3XX through the struggles. The sub 1:31 time is there, I just need to keep it smooth and on track. Here's hoping I can make it work tomorrow.
 
Just had a great race with a Canadian, Cal Naughton Jr as a screen name.
I wanted to type Shake and Bake but wasn't finished when he left.
I was right on his tail for a lap at least then on skyline on the last lap I think he either got unlucky or the pressure got to him, he got a tire on the curb, scraped the wall and went off so I could pass
If you're in here: thank you for the best race all night. And I have been going for 4 hours....

Edit: I finished P3, and started as P8
Totally unrelated, but I wanted to thankyou for making some awesome liveries - I'm currently using your retro BP rx-7 bathurst 12 hour livery on for race B. Love your work!
 
Well my fun on the alternate account is over, only took 8 races to get back up to C/S where I belong.

Was running the Megane - oddly it would do 12 laps easy at FM1 in ranks E & D, but when I got up to C it suddenly dropped to 10 at most. My AT driving didn’t change so not sure what happened.

Managed to do a no-stopper anyway by running on FM2 for most of the race, made up a couple of places to finish P2. Nice clean battle with a Pole for the last few laps, held him off by 0.02 on the line as I ran out of gas.
 
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Awesome. That looks like 3.4% yearly inflation rate. It became easier to reach A+ as DR points became worth less over time, and I thought I was getting better :lol:

It makes sense, people tend to avoid DR resets while every race slot has people competing at the very bottom, adding more points to the pool 5 times per hour. The rarity of a player going over 99,999 points can easily be ignored, yet every race there will be a couple DR D players going below 1 and get set to minimum 1 DR again.

Still 25% of the active players stuck with GT Sport after GT7 released. Good news for PD is, at least it didn't go back up, which is actually bad news since it definitely feels the active player pool in GT7 is much smaller:ouch:
And here are the ACTIVE in Sport Mode filtered data, manually extracted from K' Stats database. Active here means having played GTS Sport Mode in the previous month

Last Day | DR pts total | pts per player | est. Sport Mode active players

2022-08-02 | 446,131,600 | 10,622 | 42000
2021-08-02 | 2,211,493,400 | 14,158 | 156200
2020-08-03 | 2,102,196,400 | 13,073 | 160800
2019-08-05 | 1,711,578,400 | 13,268 | 129000
2018-08-06 | 1,837,163,400 | 10,949 | 167800
...
2018-01-09 | 1,813,680,600 | 7243 | 250400

note: do not compare data with my previous post as the dates there are the date of data archival, not in-game dates.
 
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Do you have this on any others cars you have ? There was someone in those amazing Race B's i mentioned with the same livery.
Nope this is the only one I’ve made for that car. It was Yorkshire Day on Monday so maybe a few others running liveries celebrating this.

Well my fun on the alternate account is over, only took 8 races to get back up to C/S where I belong.

Was running the Megane - oddly it would do 12 laps easy at FM1 in ranks E & D, but when I got up to C it suddenly dropped to 10 at most. My AT driving didn’t change so not sure what happened.

Managed to do a no-stopper anyway by running on FM2 for most of the race, made up a couple of places to finish P2. Nice clean battle with a Pole for the last few laps, held him off by 0.02 on the line as I ran out of gas.
What was the overall race time in the lower lobbies compared to the C lobby? Im wondering if the pace in the C lobby was faster so could be that you drove a bit faster which cause you to burn more fuel? In MT you get 11 laps in mix 1 but if you short shift you can do the race with no fuel stop (still in mix 1)
 
What was the overall race time in the lower lobbies compared to the C lobby? Im wondering if the pace in the C lobby was faster so could be that you drove a bit faster which cause you to burn more fuel? In MT you get 11 laps in mix 1 but if you short shift you can do the race with no fuel stop (still in mix 1)
Don't think that's it. I was doing 1:36s for most of the C lobby race on hards, dropping down to 34s at the end. The lower levels I was on mediums, running 1:32/1:33s (stopped on lap 11 for hards but no extra fuel). Anyway, the fuel estimate was 10 laps from the very first lap of the C race, whereas the others it started at 12.
 
Been having an absolute blast in race B so far. Several runs and almost always some close battling. Lots of very close battles with the constant threat of the car stepping out on you just because.

I'm sure some people are tired of the Mazda TC, but it's still a good break from yet another Gr3 or Gr4 race
 
Well my fun on the alternate account is over, only took 8 races to get back up to C/S where I belong.

Was running the Megane - oddly it would do 12 laps easy at FM1 in ranks E & D, but when I got up to C it suddenly dropped to 10 at most. My AT driving didn’t change so not sure what happened.

Managed to do a no-stopper anyway by running on FM2 for most of the race, made up a couple of places to finish P2. Nice clean battle with a Pole for the last few laps, held him off by 0.02 on the line as I ran out of gas.
That's because you're doing it wrong. The #2 account isn't for try harding and picking on lower ranked drivers (as you once accused us duel account holders of doing ;) ) but rather for starting from the back (or do you best to start from the middle), using non-meta cars, try alternate strats, etc. Use the Mustang, because why not? Start from the back and run RH tires only. That kind of stuff.

I'm all for people enjoying the game however they want, but that is what I use my #2 account for anyway. Regardless, it can be 'difficult' sometimes keeping the ranking from jumping up too quickly; you just have to use the aforementioned tricks to keep it from happening.
 
That's because you're doing it wrong. The #2 account isn't for try harding and picking on lower ranked drivers (as you once accused us duel account holders of doing ;) ) but rather for starting from the back (or do you best to start from the middle), using non-meta cars, try alternate strats, etc. Use the Mustang, because why not? Start from the back and run RH tires only. That kind of stuff.

I'm all for people enjoying the game however they want, but that is what I use my #2 account for anyway. Regardless, it can be 'difficult' sometimes keeping the ranking from jumping up too quickly; you just have to use the aforementioned tricks to keep it from happening.
Or you simply drive in the class where you end up, if you get off, you just get off and if you climb up, you just drive in the next better class.


BTW. In race A, the Jag "used to be" always good too...

I only did 1-2 laps there just to be able to drive a Gr3 this week... but I'm NOT interested in the races or the rating.
 
That's because you're doing it wrong. The #2 account isn't for try harding and picking on lower ranked drivers (as you once accused us duel account holders of doing ;) ) but rather for starting from the back (or do you best to start from the middle), using non-meta cars, try alternate strats, etc. Use the Mustang, because why not? Start from the back and run RH tires only. That kind of stuff.

I'm all for people enjoying the game however they want, but that is what I use my #2 account for anyway. Regardless, it can be 'difficult' sometimes keeping the ranking from jumping up too quickly; you just have to use the aforementioned tricks to keep it from happening.
To be clear, the reason I created my backup was so my main account would stay in B for the next load of nations/manufacturers races - I want to compete this time in GT2. Results are extremely track-dependent for me and I didn’t want the main to drop after bad weeks like Dragon Tail and the Ring.

It also lets me use a few different non-meta cars like the Ferrari, or try that no-stopper. These races in E & D have been completely unfulfilling though, so glad the backup is up to C with other drivers of my natural pace. I’m not going to deliberately tank to race down in the lower levels.
 
Going to retire from Race C I think. Not really had much luck Monday or today.
Two issues I keep having are:
  • idiots either using the push to pass, or if they go off track they dont rejoin safely and end up hitting you or they don’t adjust the braking for dirty tyres.
  • and the last one is I keep dropping it on the same 2 corners (See image). So frustrating!!

Done 7/8 races in total and I’ve only had 2 top 5 results, the others have been bottom 10 or last. DR taken a nose dive.

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Also I’m slow in a few corners. Surtees I can never get the power down early enough. And then through Westfield, Dingle and Sheene i always lose time to car infront or behind
 
Thart run from Westfield through Dingle Dell to Sheene is my prime overtaking spot. People run wide to the kerb and I can stay tight, get the power down and be alongside before the braking zone.
 
Going to retire from Race C I think. Not really had much luck Monday or today.
Two issues I keep having are:
  • idiots either using the push to pass, or if they go off track they dont rejoin safely and end up hitting you or they don’t adjust the braking for dirty tyres.
  • and the last one is I keep dropping it on the same 2 corners (See image). So frustrating!!

Done 7/8 races in total and I’ve only had 2 top 5 results, the others have been bottom 10 or last. DR taken a nose dive.

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Also I’m slow in a few corners. Surtees I can never get the power down early enough. And then through Westfield, Dingle and Sheene i always lose time to car infront or behind
Finding it difficult as well, always have though, I am enjoying driving it more than I used to at least even if it is running bottom half.

Not had too much trouble with the driving standards other than people turning in blindly with a car alongside that I'm just getting used to now, to be honest.

Race A though has been Wreckfest in the few runs I've tried. Way too many divebombs into the right hander up the mountain and then on the way down where there really isn't space for it. Could kindly put it down to it being a difficult drive but some of them have been just blatant hit and runs.
 
I can’t complain in the future about people messing around on burner/alternate accounts in races far below their true level - just won at Brands by 30s on my own one.

SHAME SHAME SHAME
How in the world did you gain 30s on the field?! Would you share the car and strategy you used?
Die Lastzelle "LoadCell" rechnet Druck am Pedal um und gibt es an das Spiel weiter, da der Körper besonders die Beine /Füße eben Druck viel feiner und konstanter dosieren kann, als den Puren Weg des Fußes/Beines an ein Pedal... Ein Finger kann gerade noch so einen relativ kurzen Weg sehr genau fühlen und einteilen, bei den Füßen wird es jedoch schwieriger. Dabei ist es im Prinzip egal wieviel Druck man für den Pedalweg braucht, wenn trotzdem nur den Weg des Pedals erfasst und auswertet, wie es bei normalen Pedalen passiert.
Bei den "LoadCell" Pedalen ist der Weg vollkommen bedeutungslos, es kommt einzig darauf an wie stark man das Pedal betätigt. Und diese Kraft kann der Fuß viel häufiger genau gleich einteilen und wiederholen.


Es gibt jedoch nur sehr wenige dieser Pedale am Markt und man muss sich zumindest in einem akzeptabelen finanziellem Rahmen zwischen Fanatec oder Thrustmaster entscheiden.
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The "LoadCell" load cell converts the pressure on the pedal and passes it on to the game, since the body, especially the legs/feet, can dose pressure much finer and more constantly than the pure path of the foot/leg to a pedal... On Fingers can just about feel and divide such a relatively short distance very precisely, but it becomes more difficult with the feet. In principle, it doesn't matter how much pressure is needed for the pedal travel if the pedal travel is still recorded and evaluated, as is the case with normal pedals. With the "LoadCell" pedals, the path is completely meaningless, it all depends on how hard you press the pedal. And the foot can divide and repeat this force much more often in exactly the same way.

However, there are very few of these pedals on the market and you have to decide between Fanatec or Thrustmaster at least within an acceptable financial framework.

@Bullwinkle

Look....

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Thanks @xMAXIx79 I found it yesterday and have been having fun with it, although it can cause me some frustration if I can’t optimize my laps! I need to change my habits, though, as I’m used to clicking right on through that screen. I need to remember to slow down and look at my splits.
Hate that optimum time box. I have spend hours before trying to hit that time.
Me too. I feel like it’s a cruel joke.
Going to retire from Race C I think. Not really had much luck Monday or today.
Two issues I keep having are:
  • idiots either using the push to pass, or if they go off track they dont rejoin safely and end up hitting you or they don’t adjust the braking for dirty tyres.
  • and the last one is I keep dropping it on the same 2 corners (See image). So frustrating!!

Done 7/8 races in total and I’ve only had 2 top 5 results, the others have been bottom 10 or last. DR taken a nose dive.

View attachment 1180299

Also I’m slow in a few corners. Surtees I can never get the power down early enough. And then through Westfield, Dingle and Sheene i always lose time to car infront or behind
I’m having the same problems as you. I’ll lose time on the front end and then gain it back on the back, so basically I’m following the same driver all race long, just closer and farther away from their bumper. The unintended benefit is that it tends to make them nervous and maybe lose it on a corner so I can pass. I can’t seem to overtake anyone any other way!
 
How in the world did you gain 30s on the field?! Would you share the car and strategy you used?
It was a DR E race on the backup/practice account - I qualified on pole in the Megane and just drove off. Mediums for 11 laps.
I love Brands and a win's a win, but I'm not particularly proud of that one. Managed 2nd using the same stragegy in a C race later on - the Renault just seems to fit there, like a proper BTCC car.
 
It was a DR E race on the backup/practice account - I qualified on pole in the Megane and just drove off. Mediums for 11 laps.
I love Brands and a win's a win, but I'm not particularly proud of that one. Managed 2nd using the same stragegy in a C race later on - the Renault just seems to fit there, like a proper BTCC car.
Yup. I really want to drive other cars at C this week, but they’re just not cutting it. I tried all kinds of weird stuff like the Ferrari and they are so hard on the fuel that they can’t compete. So I’m going back to the Trophy (I’m assuming you were driving the Trophy?)

I saw someone no-stop the WRX last night and finish top 5, but I have no clue how because when I tried it on my first race this week it was several laps short of fuel.
 
Daily C has been really clean for me. starting 4-14th top american splits. Only one bad apple in 8 races. Was blocking me and Kei while kei was streaming. after he intentional blocked kei I basically figured best to dispatch him. I also visited Barry-R this race

 
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Not had too much trouble with the driving standards other than people turning in blindly with a car alongside that I'm just getting used to now, to be honest.
Taking this back after that last one, what a joke, taken out 4 times one by a guy who got shoved off at Druids and decided as he can't catch the guy ahead I would do for a revenge punt.

SR needs sorting cos all those guys SR S and what a mess it is.

Fuming :banghead:
 
Daily C has been really clean for me. starting 4-14th top american splits. Only one bad apple in 8 races. Was blocking me and Kei while kei was streaming. after he intentional blocked kei I basically figured best to dispatch him. I also visited Barry-R this race


of course it was a red Alfa. didn't even need to watch the clip to know.
 
Daily race C really does make you appreciate how good the BTCC drivers are - they spend most of the race pretty much touching nose-to-tail yet are absolutely blasting round and getting loads of over-takes in. They used to do a LOT of push-passes but they seem to have toned that down nowadays...
 
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