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I can't believe I foolishly thought I was in danger of becoming an A driver this week! I can't finish a Race C without leaving the track in some way, usually of my own devise, and end out battling for last place. I'm almost always over a minute behind P1!!! It's horrible! I like the track, but apparently I just can't race it. I don't even have a single clue as to how I can improve on it. If I lose 10s arguing with a curb, how do I make up the other 50s to catch the leaders?!?!?! I'm just plain lost.

I've tried a variety of cars and I've decided to stick with the Trophy for now because of it's fuel efficiency. I thought I might be a Swift fan, but it seems less efficient. Anyway, if I go no-stop on RH I get steamrolled on the first lap and can never catch up even when everyone else pits. I'm still a minute back. If I do a one-stop, same story. I feel like I'm missing some very important step that will save me a minute, like a shortcut that everyone knows except me!

I'll keep racing this week, but it's clear that I am more at risk to end the week as a C driver than an A driver. :irked:
 
I can't believe I foolishly thought I was in danger of becoming an A driver this week! I can't finish a Race C without leaving the track in some way, usually of my own devise, and end out battling for last place. I'm almost always over a minute behind P1!!! It's horrible! I like the track, but apparently I just can't race it. I don't even have a single clue as to how I can improve on it. If I lose 10s arguing with a curb, how do I make up the other 50s to catch the leaders?!?!?! I'm just plain lost.

Ich habe eine Reihe von Autos versucht und habe mich entschieden, jetzt an der Trophy zu bleiben, weil es Treibstoffeffizienz ist. Ich dachte, ich könnte ein Swift-Fan sein, aber es scheint weniger effizient zu sein. Jedenfalls, wenn ich auf RH No-Stop gehe, werde ich auf der ersten Runde Dampfrollt und kann nie aufholen, selbst wenn alle anderen pitzen. Ich bin noch eine Minute zurück. Wenn ich einen One-Stop mache, dann die gleiche Geschichte. Ich fühle mich, als würde ich einen sehr wichtigen Schritt verpassen, der mir eine Minute retten wird, wie eine Abkürzung, die jeder kennt, außer mir!

Ich werde diese Woche weiter rennen, aber es ist klar, dass ich eher gefährdet bin, die Woche als C-Fahrer zu beenden als ein Fahrer. :irked:
Try the G70.. ist easy to handle and goes great... almost all Top 100 use them now.
And you can use a little bit short shift if your fuel goes down to fast.
 
I can't believe I foolishly thought I was in danger of becoming an A driver this week! I can't finish a Race C without leaving the track in some way, usually of my own devise, and end out battling for last place. I'm almost always over a minute behind P1!!! It's horrible! I like the track, but apparently I just can't race it. I don't even have a single clue as to how I can improve on it. If I lose 10s arguing with a curb, how do I make up the other 50s to catch the leaders?!?!?! I'm just plain lost.

I've tried a variety of cars and I've decided to stick with the Trophy for now because of it's fuel efficiency. I thought I might be a Swift fan, but it seems less efficient. Anyway, if I go no-stop on RH I get steamrolled on the first lap and can never catch up even when everyone else pits. I'm still a minute back. If I do a one-stop, same story. I feel like I'm missing some very important step that will save me a minute, like a shortcut that everyone knows except me!

I'll keep racing this week, but it's clear that I am more at risk to end the week as a C driver than an A driver. :irked:

If a track doesn't like me and I don't get anything done in the races, I usually try to build my confidence through a lot of qualifying laps. I mean, a LOT. If that doesn't work (like i.e. Monza in my case), I turn to other races. No point in trying to force it if it just isn't there.
 
I can't believe I foolishly thought I was in danger of becoming an A driver this week! I can't finish a Race C without leaving the track in some way, usually of my own devise, and end out battling for last place. I'm almost always over a minute behind P1!!! It's horrible! I like the track, but apparently I just can't race it. I don't even have a single clue as to how I can improve on it. If I lose 10s arguing with a curb, how do I make up the other 50s to catch the leaders?!?!?! I'm just plain lost.

I've tried a variety of cars and I've decided to stick with the Trophy for now because of it's fuel efficiency. I thought I might be a Swift fan, but it seems less efficient. Anyway, if I go no-stop on RH I get steamrolled on the first lap and can never catch up even when everyone else pits. I'm still a minute back. If I do a one-stop, same story. I feel like I'm missing some very important step that will save me a minute, like a shortcut that everyone knows except me!

I'll keep racing this week, but it's clear that I am more at risk to end the week as a C driver than an A driver. :irked:
Yep, welcome to Brands Hatch. Every time it comes up it seems the track itself claims ad many drivers as anything else. It's one of those tracks you really can't race at 100 percent. Have to run it at 90 to 95 percent and have some dead solid brake and turn in markers otherwise you get to play in the grass for a while.
Very very fun track, but very very stressful to keep it fast and pushing there over the full race.
 
I can't believe I foolishly thought I was in danger of becoming an A driver this week! I can't finish a Race C without leaving the track in some way, usually of my own devise, and end out battling for last place. I'm almost always over a minute behind P1!!! It's horrible! I like the track, but apparently I just can't race it. I don't even have a single clue as to how I can improve on it. If I lose 10s arguing with a curb, how do I make up the other 50s to catch the leaders?!?!?! I'm just plain lost.

I've tried a variety of cars and I've decided to stick with the Trophy for now because of it's fuel efficiency. I thought I might be a Swift fan, but it seems less efficient. Anyway, if I go no-stop on RH I get steamrolled on the first lap and can never catch up even when everyone else pits. I'm still a minute back. If I do a one-stop, same story. I feel like I'm missing some very important step that will save me a minute, like a shortcut that everyone knows except me!

I'll keep racing this week, but it's clear that I am more at risk to end the week as a C driver than an A driver. :irked:
If you are driving manual you really should look at the Swift. its punished mistakes not as bad as the Megane and if you short shift can do the whole race with no fuel. I(a 95 percent A driver) can basically do mid 1:30s all day long while short shifting/coasting into turns.
 
That's the game that got me hooked on proper racers (I never liked Ridge Racer or the arcade types).
Toca 2 was the best racing game ever (next to Gran Turismo off course)
I have so many memories playing that game, the first game that (for me) had realistic racing with qualifying, and a awesome championship series. Also the first racing game where you could actually see the driver inside the car. I still remember the code that you used when doing the championship that enabled you to continue no matter what result you had. 'BIGLEY'. Otherwise you need to have a minimum result to progress in the game.

I used to do time trials on the Silverstone track with my brother all the time, using the Nissan, and calling one and other when we had a new lap record. We would call each other at like 02.00 hours, I would tell him the new record was 1.02.398 and then he cursed a bit, hung up called me back a half hour later with a 1.02.351. Then 20 minutes later i would call him again with something like 1.01.992 and by then either of our girlfriends would storm into the living room screaming that it is in the middle of the bloody night, stop calling eachother! 😄

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I can't believe I foolishly thought I was in danger of becoming an A driver this week! I can't finish a Race C without leaving the track in some way, usually of my own devise, and end out battling for last place. I'm almost always over a minute behind P1!!! It's horrible! I like the track, but apparently I just can't race it. I don't even have a single clue as to how I can improve on it. If I lose 10s arguing with a curb, how do I make up the other 50s to catch the leaders?!?!?! I'm just plain lost.

I've tried a variety of cars and I've decided to stick with the Trophy for now because of it's fuel efficiency. I thought I might be a Swift fan, but it seems less efficient. Anyway, if I go no-stop on RH I get steamrolled on the first lap and can never catch up even when everyone else pits. I'm still a minute back. If I do a one-stop, same story. I feel like I'm missing some very important step that will save me a minute, like a shortcut that everyone knows except me!

I'll keep racing this week, but it's clear that I am more at risk to end the week as a C driver than an A driver. :irked:
Sorry but I had to laugh, it is a VERY tough place to race. Well TBH I never really race there, I circulate and hope others fall off before i do. Maybe try TC1 to be safer.
 
What car you using for the Race C? Haven't actually raced yet but I tried the G70 that the top times all seem to be using but... I hated the car 😂

Really didn't like how 4WD cars go round Brands Hatch and the gear ratios of the Bentley didn't suit the way i take corners.

I haven't set any records (lol) but I found MR cars suit my style better and the Megane has so far been the best compromise of power and handling. Best time I managed so far is a 1:31:5 but I can go quicker for sure as only did a few laps.

Also tried the FR and they're faster but obviously more challenging in such a fast and downhill layout. The 86 is quite good and just 0.2 slower and I did just 2 laps with the AMG and think it has potential...

Is everyone here using the meta or did you find something else to be better for you?
 
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What car you using for the Race C? Haven't actually raced yet but I tried the G70 that the top times all seem to be using but... I hated the car 😂

Really didn't like how 4WD cars go round Brands Hatch and the gear ratios of the Bentley didn't suit the way i take corners.

I haven't set any records (lol) but I found MR cars suit my style better and the Megane has so far been the best compromise of power and handling. Best time I managed so far is a 1:31:5 but I can go quicker for sure as only did a few laps.

Also tried the FR and they're faster but obviously more challenging in such a fast and downhill layout. The 86 is quite good and just 0.2 slower and I did just 2 laps with the AMG and think it has potential...

Is everyone here using the meta or did you find something else to be better for you?
I haven't done a race in C yet and likely won't as I do not get along with Brands. I did like 10-15 quali laps on Monday but haven't been back. But, to answer your question I used the G70 to quali with a 30.4. The aliens are in the 28s! I think if I really tried I could get a 29.9X.

Seems the strat is quali in the G70 and race in the Trophy (minor short shifting will be fine with fuel); 11 laps on Ms and 1 on Hs.

Don't do that.... don't give me hope.
Ha, I didn't even notice that. Freudian slip?
 
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Had some really fun race As today. I had a win in the bag but halfway through lap five started day dreaming while driving and Bathurst isn't the place for that. :lol:

Race two was a ton of fun. Great, clean fighting between myself, a Brazilian in an Evo (Astreiro), and an American in the McLaren F1 (shmacked sloth). P1 drove off, but all of us were battling for 2nd. Everything was super clean. (I ended up with P2 if you're wondering.)

Also got some screen time with our favorite British streamer. Was some good side-by-side action, which is always fun. Timestamped vid below:


Had the replay so name a quick vid on what I was referring to in bold. I forgot to mention a third player in the Beetle (Sarah) that was in on all the fun. Started getting harry coming down the back straight. But, thoughout all of it there was no contact; everyone hit their marks, left space, and it was awesome. It was basically this tight for four of the five laps.

 
I haven't done a race in C yet and likely won't as I do not get along with Brands. I did like 10-15 quali laps on Monday but haven't been back. But, to answer your question I used the G70 to quali with a 30.4. The aliens are in the 28s! I think if I really tried I could get a 29.9X.

Seems the strat is quali in the G70 and race in the Trophy (minor short shifting will be fine with fuel); 11 laps on Ms and 1 on Hs.


Ha, I didn't even notice that. Freudian slip?
Yup. got a 1'29.3 with the G70 for quali which puts me on pole sometimes and 5-7th in other races in A+/A... the variation is crazy and not that predictable.

I can run good times (consistent low 1'30s in race trim with RM) with Trophy , but as soon as I'm following someone close I bottle it on those dangerous high speed corners and get in grass... bumper view stinks for vision if you are too close and dirty air I guess. As soon as I'm in mid field after an error let the punting, diving and leaning begin. End result is a very mixed bag of results... I've done better on average in every other combo I've tried in sport so far.

Half the time the first lap feels like I'm driving a different car: wobbly weight shifts and less grip. I guess it's tire temps? if I can survive the first lap I'm usually in good shape... but this track is not forgiving. I made less mistakes at Nordschleife for some reason even when pushing the entire race.
 
Yep, welcome to Brands Hatch. Every time it comes up it seems the track itself claims ad many drivers as anything else. It's one of those tracks you really can't race at 100 percent. Have to run it at 90 to 95 percent and have some dead solid brake and turn in markers otherwise you get to play in the grass for a while.
Very very fun track, but very very stressful to keep it fast and pushing there over the full race.
Very true about that statement. I find it a great track to race on and is fast, but boy it is very stressful. I don’t think they is 1 easy corner of that track
 
And here are the ACTIVE in Sport Mode filtered data, manually extracted from K' Stats database. Active here means having played GTS Sport Mode in the previous month

Last Day | DR pts total | pts per player | est. Sport Mode active players

2022-08-02 | 446,131,600 | 10,622 | 42000
2021-08-02 | 2,211,493,400 | 14,158 | 156200
2020-08-03 | 2,102,196,400 | 13,073 | 160800
2019-08-05 | 1,711,578,400 | 13,268 | 129000
2018-08-06 | 1,837,163,400 | 10,949 | 167800
...
2018-01-09 | 1,813,680,600 | 7243 | 250400

note: do not compare data with my previous post as the dates there are the date of data archival, not in-game dates.
Cool data. Seems the high level players moved on faster than the lower ranked. Quite a drop!
 
I did a bunch of practice at Brands Hatch and got my qualifying time to a 1:31.1XX so that's a bit better. I entered one race tonight and I knew I was going to struggle based on past races in GT Sport. I started in P11 in a mixed A/B room and complete the first lap with no problem. That single lap on the hard tyres that were cold was an adventure. I duck into the pits end of lap 1 and get to work on the mediums. Things are going along just fine until I run wide and good off track coming out of Sheene's curve, like I always do when I run here. I rejoin the track and keep going with little problems until I go off track a few laps later on T1. Ugh... In the end thanks to rage quits and the few cars I passed that spun in front of me, I finish in P8. I do believe I would have been fighting for P6 if I didn't go off track on T1.

But, my pace was terrible during this race. I don't know what it is, but this track gets in my head and I can't keep it together. More laps should fix that, but I get very timid in the corners once I go off track. I'll try one more race tomorrow and go from there.
 
@lgt
Tried the McLaren at Bathurst, feels fantastic across the top, great turn in. Managed a 2.04.7. Jumped in the Z4 and BANG, 2.03.7.

Supra did a 2.04 flat. Cannot use anything else as I can't trust the rears on exit and TC is ridiculous.
good call on the Z4. Back in the GTS days the Vette and Jag were my favorites at Bathurst. The Jag doesn’t want to turn in and the Vette is twitchy. I still need to connect the full lap, but the Z4 feels good. Thanks for the rec.
 
A weight has been lifted my shoulders, one that has been keeping me awake every night this week. I FINALLY managed to get into 1.28's for the Race C...........I know that's really sad but it's been annoying the hell out me all week. I think some of you can relate.
Did about 6 or 7 races, tried out some non meta cars. Atenza was decent, mega understeery, but good on fuel. Then thought I'd go for broke and picked the Citroen, thought it would be hard to handle but the main issue was the fuel tank which only held 8 laps worth. Then just drove the Suzuki the rest of the night, its actually way better in the race than you might think, in fact in the A+/A lobbies i was in there was more Suzuki's than Megane's
 
@lgt

good call on the Z4. Back in the GTS days the Vette and Jag were my favorites at Bathurst. The Jag doesn’t want to turn in and the Vette is twitchy. I still need to connect the full lap, but the Z4 feels good. Thanks for the rec.
If you're having trouble cornering the Jag, you're probably still braking too hard. The Jag doesn't like that at all and then becomes very "stiff", i.e. it understeers quite a lot. It helps a lot to give him less brake when entering corners and sometimes even to "relax" him with a bit of gas pedal. It drives very "smoothly" and can go quite decent cornering speeds.

What are the best Gr4 and Gr3 cars in general?
There is NO general answer for this.

But when it comes to Gr4 cars, there are 3 models that very often do well: 1. GT-R, 2. WRX, 3. Alfa 155

In the Gr3 there are many more vehicles that have outstanding strengths or terrible weaknesses depending on the track. Here the range of usable vehicles is very wide and therefore suggestions here make little sense.
 
Cool data. Seems the high level players moved on faster than the lower ranked. Quite a drop!
That was my (unwritten) conclusion too ;)
Confirmed if we "zoom" on this period.

Last Day | DR pts total | pts per active player | est. Sport Mode active players
2022-08-02 | 446,131,600 | 10622 | 42000
2022-05-18 | 541,511,800 | 10,702 | 50600
2022-04-19 | 780,269,400 | 10,659 | 73200
2022-04-06 | 1,011,038,800 | 11,360 | 89000
2022-03-30 | 1,455,280,600 | 13,134 | 110800
2022-03-20 | 1,870,790,400 | 13,899 | 134600
2022-03-13 | 2,082,574,800 | 14,052 | 148200
2022-03-02 | 2,176,028,600 | 14,222 | 153000
2022-02-07 | 2,252,411,600 | 13,785 | 163400
2022-01-03 | 2,312,505,000 | 13,199 | 175200
 
Just did two races in B, such a good combo. The little bit of tail wiggle you get is just enough to keep you on your toes.

I'm not the fastest going around but it's still so much fun.
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Come check out the CHALLENGE HUB and post your times there for some friendly competition.
 
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A weight has been lifted my shoulders, one that has been keeping me awake every night this week. I FINALLY managed to get into 1.28's for the Race C...........I know that's really sad but it's been annoying the hell out me all week. I think some of you can relate.
Did about 6 or 7 races, tried out some non meta cars. Atenza was decent, mega understeery, but good on fuel. Then thought I'd go for broke and picked the Citroen, thought it would be hard to handle but the main issue was the fuel tank which only held 8 laps worth. Then just drove the Suzuki the rest of the night, its actually way better in the race than you might think, in fact in the A+/A lobbies i was in there was more Suzuki's than Megane's
Swift is finally getting its time to shine.
 
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