GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[hollowkatt]

Tried to race Monza tonight. Some guy from a South American country, is a **** tier driver who can't do anything but punt from behind when he gets passed.

Qualified 3rd, punted to 12th
Qualified 3rd, punted to 10th

Wonder what my next race will bring?

Oh well, next time we're side by side I'm pitting him into the forking pitlane wall and I don't give a rats ass about consequences.

 

[Egghaus88]

Anyone got some tuning tips for the engine swapped MR2? I have good turn in, but the rear wants to come around when getting on the throttle. Can't keep up with those pesky Caymans on corner exit. I'm at 1:54.5, I probably just need more laps on this track.

 

[Nick Parks]

The combo's this week use a couple of my favourite tracks, I 'was' (last night anyway) inside the top 50 for Daily C with a 1:50.995 and inside the top 100 for Daily B with a 1:46.6.
I won't be doing any races on Daily B as I know from past experience its an absolute bloodbath, and even if you start on Pole you're pretty much guaranteed to get taken out on either the first or second chicanes.
On Daily C I'm guessing its a fuel saver on Hards? My quali time is in the Alfa, but is this the car to use for the race?
Last time there was a similar combo at Nurb GP it seemed to be that everyone was using the WRX in the race?

 

[Maddens Raiders]

Because PD doesn't fix the BOP.

It has a bit too much horsepower.

I might catch hell for this but yes it is way OP and so is the super silhouette for that matter. The power of these cars at the top end combined w/ the insane grip level is off the charts, there's no other way to state it. The super silhouette through the Porsche curves displays almost arcade level grip and the takeover via drafting will have you questioning your own existence even if you are in the lead car and driving to near 100% perfection - I know it sounds hyperbolic but those who know, know . The honest pilots of those cars who have come into my lobby agree as much so just for fairness they are a no go. It may seem a bit pedantic but those cars are not allowed in my online lobby which I run fairly and try to run quite frequently.

As far as these dailies I have absolutely no interest in them and hope one day PD add some real spice to these events (afternoon to night, morning, dusk, nighttime racing [like the nice gr.3 race at Bathurst a while back], cloudy, weather, etc..) - will likely never happen in a routine fashion but still hoping. In the meantime I enjoy hosting (what I like to think as) a fast room under varying conditions and littered w/ international flags to get my challenges and jollies. Have fun and be safe out there.

 

[Darrenersmit]

That's a negative, ghostrider. 787B is a Gr1 car.


Please tell me you (or anyone else for that matter) have a good tune for the Countach!


The top end on the Supra is ridiculous. So for tracks like Monza, it kills all. On the Monza daily with no chicane race from a while back, the Nissan SSS was atop the leader boads because it's the only Gr3 car faster than the Supra. However, it's true manual transmission (three pedals) and turbo lag hurt it quite a bit trying to accelerate out of turns... this with the chicane it's not as powerful

I've got a tune, whether it's good or not is another matter, definitely better than when I started messing with it though. Still got to try and get it close to 1:56 which is top of my class

 

[TheWeapon874]

The combo's this week use a couple of my favourite tracks, I 'was' (last night anyway) inside the top 50 for Daily C with a 1:50.995 and inside the top 100 for Daily B with a 1:46.6.
I won't be doing any races on Daily B as I know from past experience its an absolute bloodbath, and even if you start on Pole you're pretty much guaranteed to get taken out on either the first or second chicanes.
On Daily C I'm guessing its a fuel saver on Hards? My quali time is in the Alfa, but is this the car to use for the race?
Last time there was a similar combo at Nurb GP it seemed to be that everyone was using the WRX in the race?

I’ve tried both (my quali time in the Alfa is a 1:51.0) and prefer the Alfa in the race…you just need to short shift it a bit. The Silvia is also really good in the race!

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Here's my best lap from the previous Race A that finished 6th place worldwide.

I actually ran the lap right before the event switched. After what's on video I exited the screen and then the current race was there. I finished tied for the best I have in any Gran Turismo other than drifting just in time.

For the current Race A I'm about 40th worldwide in the Cayman using praiano's tune, about a tenth off with my own tune and another tenth off with a mix of 4 different tunes, so for better or worse tuning doesn't seem to matter much here. I am still planning to post a video later with tunes for obscure cars though.

 

[hardvibes]

Porsche Cayman GT4 '16 - 295HP/ 2767lbs- Sport Hard Tires - Daily Race-Fuji
I did a 1:51.140 after severals settings options , i was position 7 this monday night. The car is good and easy , perhaps it's possible more traction adding more torque , using more tuning engine options , but i didn't want to trash my others settings i have on this car. Up to you.
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Thanks, much appreciated. Question: why didn't you use the minimum weight? Is it for cornering stability, since you put the weight at the back? Even if I feel it's more stable like that, I'm faster with minimum weight.


I have a problem though, and this extends to all tuning by PD: I hate the fact that when you tune the engine you can't remove something, even if you change setup file.
The problem is that in my Cayman I have high lift cam shaft so I can't have the same setup as you.
ECU and power limiter sliders are different to reach maximum horsepower. To get to the maximum of 300cv (295hp), I had to use a sport air filter, racing exhaust manifolds, put ECU at 85 and power limiter at 70 (all the other parts are like in your setup).
I also can't have the same transmission tuning as you. Values for final and 1 to 6th gears are messed up since I have 8624 rpm with that cam shaft and you have 8296 rpm without. Since I don't know how to tune the transmission by myself, I tried to replicate what you have (you can check the attachment). But because of the different rpm I don't know if what I did is right to bring maximum power for each gear.
My best lap with the setup adjusted this way is 1:52.702. I think I could do a lot better with what you have.

I'd have to buy another Cayman, or another engine, but this is plain stupid design by PD. They're too fixated with "realism". In Forza Motorsport it's all very simple: all you add, you can remove.

 

[xpolydor1989]

Here's my best lap from the previous Race A that finished 6th place worldwide.

I actually ran the lap right before the event switched. After what's on video I exited the screen and then the current race was there. I finished tied for the best I have in any Gran Turismo other than drifting just in time.

For the current Race A I'm about 40th worldwide in the Cayman using praiano's tune, about a tenth off with my own tune and another tenth off with a mix of 4 different tunes, so for better or worse tuning doesn't seem to matter much here. I am still planning to post a video later with tunes for obscure cars though.

any vehicle customisation video for this week's Race A please?

 

[praiano63]

Thanks, much appreciated. Question: why didn't you use the minimum weight? Is it for cornering stability, since you put the weight at the back? Even if I feel it's more stable like that, I'm faster with minimum weight.


I have a problem though, and this extends to all tuning by PD: I hate the fact that when you tune the engine you can't remove something, even if you change setup file.
The problem is that in my Cayman I have high lift cam shaft so I can't have the same setup as you.
ECU and power limiter sliders are different to reach maximum horsepower. To get to the maximum of 300cv (295hp), I had to use a sport air filter, racing exhaust manifolds, put ECU at 85 and power limiter at 70 (all the other parts are like in your setup).
I also can't have the same transmission tuning as you. Values for final and 1 to 6th gears are messed up since I have 8624 rpm with that cam shaft and you have 8296 rpm without. Since I don't know how to tune the transmission by myself, I tried to replicate what you have (you can check the attachment). But because of the different rpm I don't know if what I did is right to bring maximum power for each gear.
My best lap with the setup adjusted this way is 1:52.702. I think I could do a lot better with what you have.

I'd have to buy another Cayman, or another engine, but this is plain stupid design by PD. They're too fixated with "realism". In Forza Motorsport it's all very simple: all you add, you can remove.

The weight of 2767 lbs is a mistake , when i convert kg to lbs. The right weight is 2756 lbs.
About my setting , it's just a base for anybody can start to his own. Up to you.

 

[Paulo Ribeiro]

Daily B and C, went from bad to worse this week.
One make racing with so many cars to chose from. Why bother to offer so many cars, PD?
Ridiculous! PD racing settings (people involved) are so ridiculous right now.

Concerning the ramming. We might have to thank PD as well, since the dirty players discovered that they can
ram, hit, push, without (most of the time) any penalty consequences.

I don't know why PD is giving so much power to bad players. Why bother with 'Racing Etiquette'?



Btw, is there any decent tutorial of how to report a player?

Cheers

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

What are these numbers from - are they with BoP enabled? That will completely change the statistics (and characteristics) of the car.

They are with BoP H enabled. It turns out they're the same values as BoP M, as far as I can tell.

Here’s a more complete spreadsheet that you can mark cars and sort:

Thanks. Does it include BoP?

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Wonder if it's better in Daily Race B to not even set a lap time so you just start at the back and gain points by moving up 10 spots from all the carnage.

First chicane is awful. Impossible to predict what drivers are going to do. Some slam on their brakes well short of where they need to.

 

[NAXEHT]

Is Mr Fullthrottle from Switzerland on here? I believe I’ve seen him here before but can’t remember the name.

 

[rAtey]

Wonder if it's better in Daily Race B to not even set a lap time so you just start at the back and gain points by moving up 10 spots from all the carnage.

First chicane is awful. Impossible to predict what drivers are going to do. Some slam on their brakes well short of where they need to.

The amount of places you move up mean nothing to dr. You get + x amount of DR when you end up higher than a player with a higher DR. Let's say you start 16 and move up 10 places to get 6th place. Now let's say you start 5th and finish 5th. In the last scenario you (probably) get a bit more DR.

 

[hardvibes]

Btw, is there any decent tutorial of how to report a player?

No and it's very frustrating. At least in GT Sport we had the report button.
I don't even know if it had an effect, but at least it made you think PD cared. Compared to now, that it's all in the hands of a flawed algorithm that unfairly penalizes you and rarely rewards you.

Not even PSN lets you report players for in-game behavior. At least XBL does since....ever.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Anyone got some tuning tips for the engine swapped MR2? I have good turn in, but the rear wants to come around when getting on the throttle. Can't keep up with those pesky Caymans on corner exit. I'm at 1:54.5, I probably just need more laps on this track.

Try softening the rear spring rate a little or make the anti-roll bar softer in the rear.

 

[John Smith UK]

Another missed opportunity with Daily Race C to try to introduce some strategy to the racing, 10 laps of Barcelona with Furl for only 7 laps at start - you Have mediums and Hard tyres But must use hards in the race, I was hoping I could blitz away at the front on mediums and pit and finish on hards but with a 35 second pit stop I think only the best of the best can do that, it seems the strategy is lift and coast while running a leaner mixture

daily races need options like this - sine the have been in GT they haven’t changed - it’s become repetitive and a little dull

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Other thing with Monza....I swear I have no idea how it determines penalties through the chicanes. Sometimes I'll legit brake too late through chicane 2 and go over the green bumpers, missing the sausage curb entirely, and no penalty. Other times I go over the sausage curbs and I get a .5 penalty. It's so seemingly random. I don't think I had one penalty all of last week at DT and I've already had like 2 in one race.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Another missed opportunity with Daily Race C to try to introduce some strategy to the racing, 10 laps of Barcelona with Furl for only 7 laps at start - you Have mediums and Hard tyres But must use hards in the race, I was hoping I could blitz away at the front on mediums and pit and finish on hards but with a 35 second pit stop I think only the best of the best can do that, it seems the strategy is lift and coast while running a leaner mixture

daily races need options like this - sine the have been in GT they haven’t changed - it’s become repetitive and a little dull

Agreed. I don't understand what they tried to achieve here. If they just hadn't made the use of hard tyres mandatory: that would (maybe) leave the choice between a no-stopper on hards with a bit of fuel saving, or a flat-out one-stopper with mediums (or softs?) and a bit of refueling.

 

[Mercia]

Wonder if it's better in Daily Race B to not even set a lap time so you just start at the back and gain points by moving up 10 spots from all the carnage.

Just FYI you don't get any points for passes. Only where you finish. So if you start / finish 5th or if you start last and finish 5th you'll get the same amount of DR.

Good rule of thumb is finishing in the top half with gain you points, bottom half will lose you points.

 

[Mercia]

First chicane is awful. Impossible to predict what drivers are going to do. Some slam on their brakes well short of where they need to.

Definitely a benefit to start at the back . Can brake a bit early and just read what's happening in front, manoeuvring through the chaos and coming out ahead.

It seems I've dropped down to SR A thanks to a handful of Monza races, not surprised even though I aim to drive clean every time. The biggest difference I think between SR S and A/B is how much drivers will defend to the death useless positions like 8th or 9th. Some SR S will do it as well but it's so common at A and below. Literally the reason these players don't move up, and will likely harm their DR without them even knowing it.

 

[Talon16]

This is a 2 account week. Monza is such a cluster it's not even worth killing the main account over. My 2 account went to SR A due to all of the contact and penalties... track limit penalties I cannot wrap my head around, getting hit then hitting someone else, getting pushed into the wall, etc. etc. etc.

I think the extra chaos at the first chicane is due to the closer starting positions (which, for the record, I am still 100% for).

I decided I do not like this track, and it's little to do with the track itself, rather how PD 'manage' it. For the chicanes, you have three choices: go around the sausage curbs and lose a ton of time; go over the sausage curb with the tires and basically insta-die; try to place the curb in between the tires and pray you don't get a penalty. So PD have made it 'illegal' to drive over them... but only kinda. You can, but just not too much. I think. In order to be competitive you have to do the last option. And, of course, if you get too many pens you lose a ton of places and your SR gets hit.

Wonder if it's better in Daily Race B to not even set a lap time so you just start at the back and gain points by moving up 10 spots from all the carnage.

First chicane is awful. Impossible to predict what drivers are going to do. Some slam on their brakes well short of where they need to.

It doesn't matter where you start and how many people you pass, all that matters for your DR are where you finish RELATIVE to everyone else, and what their respective DRs are vs your DR.

Other thing with Monza....I swear I have no idea how it determines penalties through the chicanes. Sometimes I'll legit brake too late through chicane 2 and go over the green bumpers, missing the sausage curb entirely, and no penalty. Other times I go over the sausage curbs and I get a .5 penalty. It's so seemingly random. I don't think I had one penalty all of last week at DT and I've already had like 2 in one race.

Yep, same here. I cannot figure it out. See above.

 

[sturk0167]

The weight of 2767 lbs is a mistake , when i convert kg to lbs. The right weight is 2756 lbs.
About my setting , it's just a base for anybody can start to his own. Up to you.

289.6 lbs of torque is possible, with the max of 295 hp.

 

[LVS_1986]

This is a 2 account week.

Agree. For me "2 account week" is since like 6 weeks? Last time I race on my main was reversed Yamagiwa in gr2 cars... I dont know who in PD is responsible for daily combos, but probably he/she never played this game... Race settings are just idiotic, penalty system is a joke, BoP is nowhere near "balance"... I bought GT7 in premiere day for full price, I feel robbed Only reason I still play dailies is not to get rusty when GTWS season begin...
About Monza... How many times we had it in dailies? 457? This must be some kind of strange japanese sense of humor or simple trolling

 

[Roggers]

Just done a few races in Daily C and got a win and P2, should have been a 2nd win, but I messed up.

Someone in chat said good call on the no pit stop strategy, so I type back with “pit too slow” and I got a warning from PD for using abusive language. No sure what abusive language pd I’ve used there but….. yeah.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I got a penalty at Monza for "forcing someone off the track". Yes, I hit him, but he did NOT go off the track. If I'm gonna get penalized for forcing someone off the track, at least I should get the "pleasure" of seeing him ram into a wall, or spin out in the grass. I want my money back. ;p

Definitely a benefit to start at the back . Can brake a bit early and just read what's happening in front, manoeuvring through the chaos and coming out ahead.

Yes, as long as someone doesn't come from behind and get too cozy, this strategy appears to be a valid one.

 

[FerrariF40]

How the **** can i see if i have to do a pitstop/tyre change or not???

I drove Barcelona and got 1 Minute penalty afterwards!

WHERE does it say i have to change tyre ???

 

[ubistonk]

How the **** can i see if i have to do a pitstop/tyre change or not???

I drove Barcelona and got 1 Minute penalty afterwards!

WHERE does it say i have to change tyre ???

You have to run the hard tyre in that race (you don’t have to pit). It tells you the mandatory tyres in the race description.

 

[Trucker35]

How the **** can i see if i have to do a pitstop/tyre change or not???

I drove Barcelona and got 1 Minute penalty afterwards!

WHERE does it say i have to change tyre ???

It'll say mandatory and beside it say like RH RM, etc