GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Yeah this'll be a Race A or nothing week for me. Did a few races of race B, it was ok but Monza is such a boring track without strategy so any more than that and I'd fall asleep on the main straight.

Race C I'm not even going to touch. I don't mind Catalunya but fuel-saving no stoppers are the worst type of races you can come up with, you can't push or race because you burn your fuel up. It's just a precession.

A is a lot of fun. There's some decent variety in cars even if the top is all Cayman, I've won in the F430 so there's still some choices to hop around in for a victory, I'll be doing it a fair bit but doing 1 race repeatedly for an entire week will quite quickly grow stale. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

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Stephan
I love it when I'm able to guess the right go to car for any daily and it was the case for Daily Race A.

When I saw that Race A is going to be similar from last week I figured I had to start looking into which cars I should use for Race A and it rounded down to six cars.

The first option was the Alpine A110 because I already had it tuned so I only had to worry about fine tuning its suspension, differential, and downforce settings. Plus as a bonus I have this Burger King livery made by me before too.

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The second option then was the Honda NSX NA1 because a friend of mine shared a tune for me when he saw what Daily Race A is going to be. The third would be the GT by Citroen, fourth is the Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion, fifth is the Porsche Cayman GT4, and the last one is the DeTomaso Pantera because for the Pantera I wanted to run with an engine swapped car and the Pantera I got has its engine swapped with the Ford Coyote engine.

So I did some testing and turns out among the six the Cayman delivered to me the most because of the setup I hastily made which is just a copy tune from its Gr.4 equivalent.

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As soon as Daily Race A got updated and did the race after doing some quali laps which I was able to get a 1:52.9, there I saw that I got it right on the gamble as the Cayman is the go to car for Race A.

I was able to get 3 wins for today as a result though I need to continue fine tuning this car and if I feel like I will be trying out the A110 as well for this race because I would love to run that race with the Burger King livery I made.



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I think the Citroen could be good if someone tuned it, I has good down force and powerful engine....the torque would help in the slow corners of Fuji...
 
I'm most excited for Race A this week, of only for the experimentation aspect.

Not keen on detuning, so the shortlist from my garage at first glance is:

  • GT4 Cayman
  • Mangusta
  • MR2
  • Alpine
  • NSX 02

I only have the Honda with any tuning parts at the moment so the rest will require a Cr. investment in fun.
 
M Rossi
I got third in the old GT40. Otherwise it's all been Supras. Mostly though, it is demolition derby. I had to rage quit several times, because I went from 3rd to last, 5th to last, etc. It's not worth driving clean, you always get punted.
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That's why I'm not afraid to bang doors sometimes even use the bumper some people have to learn the error of their ways lol....
 
M Rossi
I got third in the old GT40. Otherwise it's all been Supras. Mostly though, it is demolition derby. I had to rage quit several times, because I went from 3rd to last, 5th to last, etc. It's not worth driving clean, you always get punted.
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I had this exact experience not half an hour ago. I qualified 6th with a time of 1:48:9xx
Headed into the first chicane I was minding my own business, watching the cars ahead of me and braking when I should to avoid contact, probs just about half way between the 150 and 100 signs, got absolutely railed from behind.

Fortunately no engine damage, just rear bumper, but it spun me out and knocked me down to 12th of 15. Fortunately about half those positions were immediately made up by all the other cars in the ditch, or penalized, or both, and then made another position at the second chicane, and finally finished the race in 5th after a great last lap battle with a Ferrari who spun coming out of the second Lesmo.

I caught him before Ascari and passed through there. He caught me back on the slipstream into Parabolica and took the inside line, I took the wide line. Commence drag race to the line where he pipped me by 100ths of a second. Great race at the end but definitely a race of attrition at the beginning.

Second place finisher started one position behind me so it's definitely possible to get through clean and make up positions. Basically qualify as well as you can, dodge the T1 carnage, and you're home free.

The 3rd or 4th place guy qualified in the top 3 but bailed long before T1 and then just carved through the pack, so if you think you're fast enough that's a safer strat too. Shame it would have to come to that though.


I also set a time for the GR.4 Race but I'm not sure I'm ever going to run it. I hate fuel/tire saver races so if I do run it it'll be with a pit stop. It's a fun circuit with the WRX, just not one I want to spend time with trying to min/max my lap time while fuel saving. Seems boring
 
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Childe Roland
You are fast, mate. If you keep maintaning that pace you will get to A+ sooner than you think.
This past weekend was such a nightmare for me.

First, because I hate gardens and also because in daily C we have the "pleasure" to race along the 2 biggest clowns in A lobbys for american servers .
They are just playing destruction derby and trying to take off the track everyone else.
I must admit that sometimes is kinda funny to watch both of them fighting each other till death but its sad when they ruin clean drivers races (which happens every race in wich they are involved)

Had no excuses for the race that you finished ahead of me.
You clearly had a better pace and I pushed much to hard on the second stint (mediums).
Last lap was an agony with no tyre wear basically.

Great races, hope to see you again.
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I appreciate it. I won’t be racing this week because they are my three least favorite tracks! They couldn’t have planned it any worse for me.

I know we aren’t supposed to name people in the forums. I have a hunch about who one of those guys is that you mentioned. Maybe you could send me a message on PSN and let me know who to look out for.

Anyway, I’ve put a lot of hours in over the months. This is the first week where I h e absolutely no desire to race. I just hate these tracks. I can deal with Catalunya I guess, but fuel-saving races with no other strategy involved are boring processions. Just . . . 🤮
 
Bullwinkle
Anyway, I’ve put a lot of hours in over the months. This is the first week where I h e absolutely no desire to race. I just hate these tracks. I can deal with Catalunya I guess, but fuel-saving races with no other strategy involved are boring processions. Just . . . 🤮
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What are you going to do? I completely agree with you, and I have no idea what to do.
 
Mustang has some pace at Monza, as expected, enough to keep me from racing the meta (always suck in the Supra anyway) but man, it's too late for them to give a hoot now of course but if you're going to do the same combos again just roll a dice for BoP, let's have the 4C dominant, why not, there's no logical reason for the Supra to be top.

Well other than they pay more of the bills of course :lol:
 
Race C is not as bad as I thought... Mostly clean, fun starts around 8th lap:) Going to race another one, set decent 1.51,4xx in Alpha, Lancer for the race... Racing on my alt so I dont care about DR;)
 
GrumpyOldMan
What are you going to do? I completely agree with you, and I have no idea what to do.
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I still haven’t played Elden Ring or MLB The Show yet, so I’ll do those for a while. The daily roulette isn’t worth anything anyway, so I won’t be missing out on much. I hate to say it, but they seem to be phoning in the dailies at this point.

With all the races on hard tires I’m hoping that they’re simply gathering as much data as they can to correct the physics. But with only a couple of decent cars in any given race, I’m not sure they’ll ever get the BoP right, which is boring and kinda offensive, to be honest. They can trace every stinking ray of light for hyper-real reflections in the sun, but they can’t figure out how to tone down the performance of a car? Or figure out the penalty system? What’s the point of all that processing power if all your going to use it for is to make these godawful races “look nice”?!
 
GrumpyOldMan
What are you going to do? I completely agree with you, and I have no idea what to do.
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I've been doing the circuit experiences I haven't already, and cleaned up any races I haven't won in single player mode. Also playing around with tunes for the grind races / grinding Spa 1 hr with downtuned GT500 or Group C cars

I think sector 3 of Fuji and sector 3 of Barcelona can die in a fire and if there's a hell those two sectors feature prominently in it's race track.
Monza is fun if you're not trying to win, or do well at all, or survive without being punted. Mostly it's a screw around week for me in the single player mode or trying weird **** in sport
 
Focused on daily race a today. May try out the daily race b a few times, but daily c seems one to avoid, especially since I am not good at tire saving.

But anyways, daily a, decided to try out with a strassenversion first, only got my quali time down to a 1.54.6. After that gave the meta Cayman GT4 a go and man that thing handles superbly. After a bit of practice and some quick tweaks to my setup, managed to get a 1.52.2 which felt decent enough. Surprisingly up to #28 in the world atm.

Just entered & did my first race a while ago. Started 2nd in a lobby with one 1.51.3 A+ alien on pole and then a mixture of A and B DR drivers. Got a great launch and was slightly past the A+ driver braking into t1. He got shoved a bit and I managed to keep the lead after t1. I managed to drop an A DR driving UK driver who was behind outside of slipstream range at the end of lap 1.

On the long straight start of lap 2 I saw that the A+ DR Finn was all the way down to 5th and probably 5 seconds back or so (?), so I knew this was a golden opportunity to try and win a race. UK driver could not quite keep up with me and I had a 3,6 sec lead at the start of the final lap. The A+ driver got to second at the start of last sector but it was too late. Took a win by 2,9 seconds 🥳

Definitely doing daily a few more times this week, Cayman is so fun to drive and very grippy.
 

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Anybody else tried the Ford GT Race car for Race B? I’m racing it this week and seem reasonably quick, which is surprising because I am not reasonably quick. My 1.48.3 in quali seems to be starting me in the top 3 in B lobbies. I’ve had several opportunities to get down into 1.47’s and then made a mess of the final chicane.
Racing has also been reasonably clean in the couple that I’ve had.
 
LGBT_Barron
If Race C wasn't a fuel race and thus not totally boring it would've probably been the one i'd focus on, being GR4 n all that.....so i've ended up doing Race B's, lost my A+ rating but I'm okay with that as over the week I've slowly but surely got much better at slinging the Porsche round Trial Mountain.....with no TC might
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Nebuc72
Yeah this'll be a Race A or nothing week for me. Did a few races of race B, it was ok but Monza is such a boring track without strategy so any more than that and I'd fall asleep on the main straight.

Race C I'm not even going to touch. I don't mind Catalunya but fuel-saving no stoppers are the worst type of races you can come up with, you can't push or race because you burn your fuel up. It's just a precession.

A is a lot of fun. There's some decent variety in cars even if the top is all Cayman, I've won in the F430 so there's still some choices to hop around in for a victory, I'll be doing it a fair bit but doing 1 race repeatedly for an entire week will quite quickly grow stale. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

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I just had a bash at race a, I was suprised by how clean of race it was, bit of tweaking and ill be under 2minutes, 1 corner I just oversteer slightly on occasionally, and eventually spin out at back end. But yes it is quite entertaining. My weapon of choice.
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Talon16
Is there anything else in B that's competitive other than the Supra?
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Id personally try the Mazda 787b since it's considered a gr3 car, or the Nissan Skyline Silhouette...it hugs the long right hander really well with it's down force
 
Obviously I don't understand much about how individual cars race differently. But here's a spreadsheet I started, and I have questions:

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These are some of the cars on the QT leaderboard. I realize that the individual drivers matter as much as, if not more than the car itself. Still, looking at these stats, I don't understand:

1) How the Suzuki VGT stands a chance, yet it's in the top 100. It's the slowest car in my spreadsheet, and assuming "Rotational G" relates to cornering ability, it sucks at high-speed corners like I would imagine the last corner is(?).

2) The Skyline is at the top of the leaderboard (as of when I typed this). According to the stats, it's slow. And other than the 1.91, it doesn't corner much better than anything else.

3) How is the Supra the meta car? It looks to me like the Mercedes-AMG should be the clear winner, since it's significantly faster and corners about the same as the Supra.

NOTE: I haven't driven all these cars yet. I'm just trying to understand the differences between the numbers, and what I see on the leaderboard.
 
Trucker35
Id personally try the Mazda 787b since it's considered a gr3 car, or the Nissan Skyline Silhouette...it hugs the long right hander really well with it's down force
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That's a negative, ghostrider. 787B is a Gr1 car.

Darrenersmit
I just had a bash at race a, I was suprised by how clean of race it was, bit of tweaking and ill be under 2minutes, 1 corner I just oversteer slightly on occasionally, and eventually spin out at back end. But yes it is quite entertaining. My weapon of choice. View attachment 1206612
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Please tell me you (or anyone else for that matter) have a good tune for the Countach!

TheOneDonJuan
Why is the Supra so dominant on Monza?
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The top end on the Supra is ridiculous. So for tracks like Monza, it kills all. On the Monza daily with no chicane race from a while back, the Nissan SSS was atop the leader boads because it's the only Gr3 car faster than the Supra. However, it's true manual transmission (three pedals) and turbo lag hurt it quite a bit trying to accelerate out of turns... this with the chicane it's not as powerful
 
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I love a fair well balanced daily race, but yet again Polyphony serve up 2 tracks where only 1 car is a viable choice, daily race b is only competitive in a supra and daily c in the the Alfa - proof again the Polyphonys version of balanced performance is somewhat lacking
 
GrumpyOldMan
Obviously I don't understand much about how individual cars race differently. But here's a spreadsheet I started, and I have questions:

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These are some of the cars on the QT leaderboard. I realize that the individual drivers matter as much as, if not more than the car itself. Still, looking at these stats, I don't understand:

1) How the Suzuki VGT stands a chance, yet it's in the top 100. It's the slowest car in my spreadsheet, and assuming "Rotational G" relates to cornering ability, it sucks at high-speed corners like I would imagine the last corner is(?).

2) The Skyline is at the top of the leaderboard (as of when I typed this). According to the stats, it's slow. And other than the 1.91, it doesn't corner much better than anything else.

3) How is the Supra the meta car? It looks to me like the Mercedes-AMG should be the clear winner, since it's significantly faster and corners about the same as the Supra.

NOTE: I haven't driven all these cars yet. I'm just trying to understand the differences between the numbers, and what I see on the leaderboard.
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What are these numbers from - are they with BoP enabled? That will completely change the statistics (and characteristics) of the car.
 
Talon16
That's a negative, ghostrider. 787B is a Gr1 car.


Please tell me you (or anyone else for that matter) have a good tune for the Countach!


The top end on the Supra is ridiculous. So for tracks like Monza, it kills all. On the Monza daily with no chicane race from a while back, the Nissan SSS was atop the leader boads because it's the only Gr3 car faster than the Supra. However, it's true manual transmission (three pedals) and turbo lag hurt it quite a bit trying to accelerate out of turns... this with the chicane it's not as powerful
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Whoops I guess I was mistaken on the 787B, otherwise it would probably dominate at Monza with it's powerful Rotary engine

GrumpyOldMan
Obviously I don't understand much about how individual cars race differently. But here's a spreadsheet I started, and I have questions:

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These are some of the cars on the QT leaderboard. I realize that the individual drivers matter as much as, if not more than the car itself. Still, looking at these stats, I don't understand:

1) How the Suzuki VGT stands a chance, yet it's in the top 100. It's the slowest car in my spreadsheet, and assuming "Rotational G" relates to cornering ability, it sucks at high-speed corners like I would imagine the last corner is(?).

2) The Skyline is at the top of the leaderboard (as of when I typed this). According to the stats, it's slow. And other than the 1.91, it doesn't corner much better than anything else.

3) How is the Supra the meta car? It looks to me like the Mercedes-AMG should be the clear winner, since it's significantly faster and corners about the same as the Supra.

NOTE: I haven't driven all these cars yet. I'm just trying to understand the differences between the numbers, and what I see on the leaderboard.
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Guess I should have added I had success with the Nissan Skyline Silhouette without the chicane because it cornered very well on the long right hander before the second chicane
 
GrumpyOldMan
Obviously I don't understand much about how individual cars race differently. But here's a spreadsheet I started, and I have questions:

View attachment 1206618

These are some of the cars on the QT leaderboard. I realize that the individual drivers matter as much as, if not more than the car itself. Still, looking at these stats, I don't understand:

1) How the Suzuki VGT stands a chance, yet it's in the top 100. It's the slowest car in my spreadsheet, and assuming "Rotational G" relates to cornering ability, it sucks at high-speed corners like I would imagine the last corner is(?).

2) The Skyline is at the top of the leaderboard (as of when I typed this). According to the stats, it's slow. And other than the 1.91, it doesn't corner much better than anything else.

3) How is the Supra the meta car? It looks to me like the Mercedes-AMG should be the clear winner, since it's significantly faster and corners about the same as the Supra.

NOTE: I haven't driven all these cars yet. I'm just trying to understand the differences between the numbers, and what I see on the leaderboard.
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I own the Supra, the Merc, the DBR9, and the Skyline. Of the four of them the Supra is the most forgiving of mistakes AND the most planted on acceleration out of corners.
The Merc is my second best car. I can't keep the Skyline or the Aston pointed straight coming out of slower corners at all, too much wheelspin and when I try to control for that I'm too slow coming out of the corner.
 
GrumpyOldMan
Obviously I don't understand much about how individual cars race differently. But here's a spreadsheet I started, and I have questions:

View attachment 1206618

These are some of the cars on the QT leaderboard. I realize that the individual drivers matter as much as, if not more than the car itself. Still, looking at these stats, I don't understand:

1) How the Suzuki VGT stands a chance, yet it's in the top 100. It's the slowest car in my spreadsheet, and assuming "Rotational G" relates to cornering ability, it sucks at high-speed corners like I would imagine the last corner is(?).

2) The Skyline is at the top of the leaderboard (as of when I typed this). According to the stats, it's slow. And other than the 1.91, it doesn't corner much better than anything else.

3) How is the Supra the meta car? It looks to me like the Mercedes-AMG should be the clear winner, since it's significantly faster and corners about the same as the Supra.

NOTE: I haven't driven all these cars yet. I'm just trying to understand the differences between the numbers, and what I see on the leaderboard.
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Here’s a more complete spreadsheet that you can mark cars and sort:
gt-engine.com

GT ENG!NE / GT7 / Gr.3 Car Specs

Gran Turismo 7 Database website
gt-engine.com gt-engine.com
 

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