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- TheOneDonJuan
What is everyone's TC settings? Always hear varying things about it.
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What is everyone's TC settings? Always hear varying things about it.
Dragonwhisky
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- Dragonwhisky
Only aid I have on is ABS default.
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- ILLEAGLE_34
Exactly, not so far. You’re obviously very quick when it comes to TT. This is not just directed at you but I’ve always wondered why there’s such a defensive attitude towards using all the assists. 🧐 yes one might be able to achieve lap times better with said assists and more power to you. That being said in this game with no assists(-abs) it is the fastest way to get around if you have the skills.
And with putting in the lap times that you do, you definitely have the skills to drive faster without.
Time for a mental reset.
Start Up a new account and don’t use assists. I’d put money o. It that after two weeks or less that you will not go back to assists(for most cars)🍻
Oh and running abs weak allows for better handling and turn in but obviously the breaking is more difficult. 🍻
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- mcl-1974-2
depends on the car. Some Gr 4 i do use TC 0, but with some Gr 3 cars I actually have it on 2. I play with a controller, if that matters.
(But I am not a very good driver....)
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- 3,441
- United Kingdom
Nothing except ABS weak.
Considerably faster with no stability assists but I've been a wheel and pedal user for nearly 20 years PC and then Console.
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- MikeeyC27
I use no assists other than ABS using a controller, once you get used to pulling the trigger smoothly like you would press a pedal it becomes much easier, same with trail braking. I do think the PS5 controller also makes this much easier
GrumpyOldMan
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I finally decided to write up my thoughts on the subject, so here they are: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/my-take-on-using-assists-in-gt7.416962/
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what settings do you use for the triggers? they are definitely much improved from PS4 with the haptic feedback, but I think you can adjust them right?
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- Grand_Slammin
I’ll point out that this whole discussion blew up again because someone pointed out in your excellent video that TC probably accounts for the disparity in acceleration out of T2. This is an excellent point, but everyone suddenly turned it into “the assists” argument again, as happens from time to time.
I love your post about it. As usual, I admire your thoroughness, your persistence in improving your craft, and your ability to communicate what you’re thinking! Keep up the great work!
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- rising_glass1
Hey, I did a couple races at Colorado Springs, this is my first dirt track in sport since I signed up for it a year ago, my time is pretty okay. 1'35.047, I had to run about 5 consecutive laps. I found a trick at the end before finish line. I traced a line to where I could navigate the corners quickly(near logs).
I still want to push a little harder in order to crack some pole positions. @GrumpyOldMan , I saw your video, great side to side comparison.
I still want to push a little harder in order to crack some pole positions. @GrumpyOldMan , I saw your video, great side to side comparison.
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All that bashing about in B means my SR dropped and i was put in mostly DR-B rooms. Managed to get two P2 finishes and recover some DR and SR. I was then plonked in an all A room and again the bashing and barging is completely ridiculous. It's totally out of control. I managed to survive for a P5 finish but could just as easily been last.
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- rising_glass1
Well I was at a level C a week ago, but I've now dropped to a D again. See I'm nt doing enough races, b/c it's hard trying to set a good lap time. I can never get under the top 4,000 list it seems like.
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- ILLEAGLE_34
That’s a great awesome detailed write up on that topic, but I still don’t understand the need to defend the use of assists (whatever makes the game most enjoyable for one’s individual self is the most important thing) it’s just the pushback that is received when responding to a question about their driving technique.
Just to be clear I’m not writing this as a response directly to your post. It’s just something I’ve noticed and have been curious about since I first found this website.
By the way I’m pretty sure you’re faster than me in most of the daily’s 🍻 so I might have to go back and visit some assist settings and do my own mental reset 🍻
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- TheOneDonJuan
4 laps at B was such a dumb decision. Feel like all it does is inspire ramming and bumping. Laguna a few weeks back was about right for a Race B.
My lobbies have been random as well. B drivers all the way through A+. My rating has been pulverized between this week's races and last week's wreck fest.
My lobbies have been random as well. B drivers all the way through A+. My rating has been pulverized between this week's races and last week's wreck fest.
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- MikeeyC27
It could have easily been 6 laps and not been too long.
The track doesn't help this as there a few places that are perfect for the dive bombers to smash you out of the way with no hope of making the turn
Forgot to say in reply to hboandslow, I have the triggers set to strong
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GrumpyOldMan
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I wouldn't say that it "blew up" again, and even if it did, I was along for the ride. I mean, I posted that I thought turning TCS off helped a lot. Then I discovered it was more my line than TCS. But I wouldn't consider it an argument - I didn't see anyone really arguing.
Thanks! I love writing up that kind of stuff.
My concern is mostly for the non-advanced or non-expert drivers who may hear over and over again that the only way to get better is to stop using the assists. It's not about defending using assists, it's about encouraging people to focus on whatever will help them, regardless of what "they" say.
We're cool - I understood your point. And to be completely honest, I think I'm the one who brings up the subject more than anyone else!
Absolutely 100% agree. There's no reason, time-wise, it couldn't have been 6 laps. And with only 4, there isn't really enough time to make up any positions if you get behind. It's why I've only done 5 races this week, when I'd normally have done at least 20 by now. If you can't start near the front, then it's almost always going to be a wreck-fest and a crap-shoot as to whether you get wrecked or not.
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- TechnoIsLove
@Leon Kowalski
Just finished work and had to instantly put my "let's be serious" helmet on as Man Utd playing tonight so won't be online later 🤣
Only did 4 laps and this happened... Maybe the strap is on too tight? 🤣 Over to you, sir 😁
Just finished work and had to instantly put my "let's be serious" helmet on as Man Utd playing tonight so won't be online later 🤣
Only did 4 laps and this happened... Maybe the strap is on too tight? 🤣 Over to you, sir 😁
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Dragonwhisky
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Personally, I don't care what assists anyone uses. I do know that, since I came back to GT, the first few league races I did, TC was on and I was wondering why I was losing ground exiting corners. Watched a few replays and discovered the ones I was losing ground to weren't running with TC on. So, I've been running with it off ever since. During those replays I watched the TC Indicator light and the Throttle Indicator Bar to see just how much TC was activating and pulling power. It seemed to me then, the TCI was blinking a lot and the TIB was fluttering more green than red. It was activating, but not much. This indicated to me I was already modulating the throttle well enough to not need it. That turned out to be correct. I've been steadily decreasing my times and will likely stabilize soon when my talent runs out.
I also found out TC can glitch back on in open lobbies and you have to enter the track before the event starts for it to set back to 0. If you forget, then you have to set it in your MFD while driving.
I also found out TC can glitch back on in open lobbies and you have to enter the track before the event starts for it to set back to 0. If you forget, then you have to set it in your MFD while driving.
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- Germany
Arrrgh! 😬 Now I'm screwed.😆
I tried the GT-R, I'll never match your time with it. I just can't drive it. Last hope: the Jag.🍻
BTW I really hate the Barcelona track. To be precise: I hate every single turn, except the one that avoids the chicane in this layout. I don't find reliable brake references in several turns, I don't "feel" it when to step on the throttle, and there are apexes that I've never seen from any closer than two meters. I hate the whole damn thing. 🤣
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I say use whatever tools make you more confident. There are some that like or need the tools and others who don't like don't need them or prefer the challenge to mastering a car without them.
I have no care nor judgement on what people do with their copy of the game in their playtime.
Ultimately though the top people don't use them and I think that is both telling but also problematic for 2 reasons:
1. No assists is the fastest way round but comes with a heavy learning and mastery curve
2. The only ghosts for (online) come from people who don't use them and are some of the fastest in the world
Point 2 is really problematic regardless if you use aids or not. The reality for even the top I've the level down are chasing ghosts that they are unlikely to catch by a second or 2 in a week.
This then makes it harder to gauge incremental improvements. Set the ghost offset negative or positive, set it to reset at each sector it's extremely hard to follow most of them round steadily and closely as is the difference in raw pace and ability.
I really feel we should have an option to see the top S,+A, B,C ghosts as to pace at our current/own ability levels
I have no care nor judgement on what people do with their copy of the game in their playtime.
Ultimately though the top people don't use them and I think that is both telling but also problematic for 2 reasons:
1. No assists is the fastest way round but comes with a heavy learning and mastery curve
2. The only ghosts for (online) come from people who don't use them and are some of the fastest in the world
Point 2 is really problematic regardless if you use aids or not. The reality for even the top I've the level down are chasing ghosts that they are unlikely to catch by a second or 2 in a week.
This then makes it harder to gauge incremental improvements. Set the ghost offset negative or positive, set it to reset at each sector it's extremely hard to follow most of them round steadily and closely as is the difference in raw pace and ability.
I really feel we should have an option to see the top S,+A, B,C ghosts as to pace at our current/own ability levels
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- TechnoIsLove
I don't hate the track but I completely agree that it's like there is no single, consistent reference point! Like I cannot do the same exact thing on different laps and expect the same outcome!
Well the track is in Barcelona and they're United's opponents tonight, so ok, changed my mind, I hate the track and any other sport/ team related to this city 🤣
On a serious note, the only other car i seem to go fast with is the old Castrol Supra! Still half a second slower than the Nissan but compared to the rest, it's a beast (for me) 🤣
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@TechnoIsLove GGMU!! 👿 👿 👿
GrumpyOldMan
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I hate you both. By the way, I like the Jag - you may have some luck there.
Well, at least we agree on something. I can't match your times, but I can match your dislike or displeasure/confusion with the track!
Some of us have been sharing our QTs. You can find them in Showcase. Search for replays, and use "gtp8" (the number 8 is the week number). Then save it to your collection. Then go back to Settings Load Ghost, and there's a tab on the screen that says "Collection" - you'll find it there.
And if you can't find one you want, for the right track with the right car, etc., ask here!
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Full honesty it's just hassle to do that, secondly as big as this forum is I'd like the ability to select specific level ghosts without having to ask, wait for a reply, go find it, then improve, comeback ask again....rinse and repeat.
Don't get me wrong we use what we have in front of us. It's just not optimum but it's workable which is fine but it only works for people who engage here.
For daily B peeps
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- Ulricehamn
Definitely recommend this for road cars. The trick is (for all cars) to minimise the red piece of the brake bar, modulating the brake to keep it as white as possible. Same goes for ABS default, but it's much harder to do there
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Smooth steady application and that can be fast but it has to be progressive and smooth. Stamping on the brake at markers won't work.
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I find that doing it like that is actually faster anyway
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I won't go in to ABS in this thread because the way PD do it is very close to real cars although they do separate stability management which most companies don't.
For anyone that is new or doesn't understand fully how braking works it's about maximising "either" full stopping force or "control" with the subjective variable of "feel" and feel is confidence at a deep level.
The reason you want to first use the brake is to load the front geometry up, transfer the weight, set the suspension and allow the tires to compress. If you do this correctly you will settle the car and can apply maximum braking force (abs default and weak stop this but for a reason) but and this is the crucial bit, the car will now turn more consistently and predictable and be more stable. No tank slappers or braking oversteer. Because the front tires and chassis are set up, compressed, gripping and the weight has moved in a controlled way.
What this gives you is control (tweak your line) it gives you options (maintenance throttle can be lower or higher for turn in or exit) and most importantly it gives you time in a stable platform to get only once on the throttle smoothly for a given exit.
Trying to brake, turn and accelerate in a small window and asking the car to multitask at those extremes isn't smooth or fast.
Trail braking for example is the gradual release of the breaking force to move the geometry in a considered way to minimise coasting time. It's not a corner attack strategy.
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If you go deep (too late on the brakes, it's ok, just lift off and see how much the car will turn) if it's turning then either coast or slow a bit more but look at the exit of the corner and focus on that. Going deeper usually gives you a fast (not the fastest but sometimes a great "run up" line for the next sequence.) but the worst thing you can do is keep braking fully with any of the ABS settings on.
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