GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[GrumpyOldMan]

My races at daily race B this week have all been DR B lobbies, and I've started P1 or P2 in virtually all of them. I just ran a race in a mostly A lobby where I started P9, and I gotta tell you, I'm not a fan.

I suffered abuse. Maybe not anyone's fault, but let's just say that I shouldn't have bent over to pick up the soap. I prefer starting P1 or P2. I'm just sayin'.

 

[HadOne2Many]

Did 4 daily B races today after spending an hour or so learning the track in a custom race against the AI. Never really raced on this track seriously before today, just the career races.

Still stuck at DR D, 14 races and 9 top 5s now. No victories yet. Put up a 1:33.9 qualifying time in the '18 GTR, probably going to lower that tomorrow a bit more but it was good enough for top 5 starting grid in every race I was in. On the track though it was rough.

My first race I spun myself on lap 5, was 3rd and lost 5 spots trying to get back on the track. Then on the final lap I was abused by the mid field demolition crew. Ended up 13th. Next race DNF. I was in 2nd on the 4th lap but got punted on final turn. Got stuck doing donuts in the dirt and quit out of frustration.

Had the pole on the next race, but still only took 3rd. Unfortunately for me the guy in 2nd was a little hot going into turn 1. Put me back to 5th and it was a struggle to get back into top 3.

Same thing on the next race, started in 2nd and came out of turn 1 in 16th. Bumped of the track and spun when my wheel hit the grass. Managed to get back to 5th.

Tomorrow is a new day, hoping for my first win.

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Podium eludes me on Race B. Had a 3rd place going and rode the curb too hard on the last hairpin and off the 911 went into the nether realm. Handful of 4ths a 5th, a 9th and that unsightly 12th place finish I'm going to have to write to my wife about.

 

[HadOne2Many]

Podium eludes me on Race B. Had a 3rd place going and rode the curb too hard on the last hairpin and off the 911 went into the nether realm. Handful of 4ths a 5th, a 9th and that unsightly 12th place finish I'm going to have to write to my wife about.

It's the left hander right after that section that keeps getting me. Good luck to both of us

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Race A, starting in second place, I blew the first chicane by braking too early and then crept through to stay transparent so I could float through the chaos I created. That boondoggle dropped me to fifth place and then somebody weaved into my braking line heading into the second chicane. I swung wide and lost control plowing into the barricades. I dropped to last place. After that, I just focused and somehow managed to fly through mobs of DR D savages to claw my way back to second place. Fun race.

Race B, I started in 11th place and just kept it clean and collected everyone's mistakes all the way to 5th place. Going for 4th on the last lap, some idiot flicked their car into me while exiting Juncao and tanked me into the wall. All because they couldn't handle being in 5tth place. I don't even understand that mentality. Nobody cares about this stupid virtual race, and we both know that I beat him, no matter what the broken game said.

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

It's the left hander right after that section that keeps getting me. Good luck to both of us

I've no idea what to do there. I just close my eyes and hope for the best 😂

 

[Mercia]

I've no idea what to do there. I just close my eyes and hope for the best 😂

You mean this?

The Gr 3's have more than enough grip to ride that round, you can either pull to the outside first then turn hard onto the inside kerb and ride it round the turn, stay on the gas until exit and lift a touch if you feel you're going to go too wide.

Alternatively the can just hug the inside kerb all around and lift a touch when on the apex to keep it inside and ready for the exit which you should be perfectly paced to stay full throttle for at that point.

Have a bit of trust in the car, it'll stick.

Not that I'm particularly quick but the fastest way around interlagos is to avoid the track itself as much as possible. (at least in this game since track limits are hilarious)

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

and that unsightly 12th place finish I'm going to have to write to my wife about.

Um, there's got to be a story there...

It's the left hander right after that section that keeps getting me.

@Mercia commented about T11, but if you mean T12: Don't be afraid to slow down earlier than you might think, and slow down more than you might think - the key to this corner is to hit the apex going slow enough so you can really "get on it" after the apex, without worrying about leaving the track. If you hit the corner too fast, you'll lose precious time after the apex trying to just keep the car from leaving the track. In the 911, I try to hit the apex in 1st gear at around 58 mph (I know that's an odd speed, but it gives me a little leeway in case it's actually more like 60 mph).

Nobody cares about this stupid virtual race, and we both know that I beat him, no matter what the broken game said.

It sounds like somebody cares... (I know what you meant, by the way, but I couldn't help myself - please don't be offended.)

 

[Bullwinkle]

Um, there's got to be a story there...

@Mercia commented about T11, but if you mean T12: Don't be afraid to slow down earlier than you might think, and slow down more than you might think - the key to this corner is to hit the apex going slow enough so you can really "get on it" after the apex, without worrying about leaving the track. If you hit the corner too fast, you'll lose precious time after the apex trying to just keep the car from leaving the track. In the 911, I try to hit the apex in 1st gear at around 58 mph (I know that's an odd speed, but it gives me a little leeway in case it's actually more like 60 mph).

It sounds like somebody cares... (I know what you meant, by the way, but I couldn't help myself - please don't be offended.)

Don’t you ever sleep?! Or are you part of my team #insomniacracing?

 

[Mercia]

All because they couldn't handle being in 5tth place. I don't even understand that mentality.

This is the big difference I find between racing in SR S lobbies and when having fallen down to SR C / B lobbies for whatever reason.

It's the seeming desperation to fight to the death over relatively pointless places. Top 5's are a stat, 4th and 5th are marginal differences in DR gain not worth ruining a whole race over. But stick themselves down in the lower SR's they will if it means gaining that place.

Nevermind the ones who will not give up on 9th, 11th, 13th even places and you know why they'll never get out of the lobbies they're in, despite the desperation.

 

[MikeyMarquez]

Finally got around to getting some B races in this morning. Me and Interlargos have a love hate relationship I can't seem to have a consistant race.The curbs are so punishing for running (or being pushed) wide and once you have your rythem broken everyone can just drive on past for the next few corners.
Will have another go later and hopefully it will be better.

 

[Mercia]

On an interesting note just finished my 1000th race on the game

Bit of a landmark moment in the GT7 career of a distinctly below average driver? Probably!

I tend to move between high C and low B depending what the tracks are in any given week and how much time I have to play.

Would like the clean races to be higher but the game doesn't really count these properly anyway so I don't worry too much about it, knowing I mostly race clean and only occasionally see the red mist.

Poles and fastest laps well I'm just not very quick overall, and much more consistent and error free as a driver rather than blistering pace.

Every one of those victories was hard earned and many are remembered well.

I am very proud that almost half the races are top 5 finishes, shows I'm competitive more often than I'm not and that's the most fun part of the game to me, getting in the mix and racing wheel to wheel.

I hope everyone will share theirs when they hit the big 1K?

Let's go racing boys

 

[Fezzik]

I hope everyone will share theirs when they hit the big 1K?

I would, but at current pace that would be sometime in 2029. You good waiting ?

 

[newmedia_dev]

1000 sadly for me has been and gone a while ago...

 

[Leon Kowalski]

@TechnoIsLove :

The McLaren is a really good fit for that track:

🥳

 

[HadOne2Many]

Um, there's got to be a story there...

@Mercia commented about T11, but if you mean T12: Don't be afraid to slow down earlier than you might think, and slow down more than you might think - the key to this corner is to hit the apex going slow enough so you can really "get on it" after the apex, without worrying about leaving the track. If you hit the corner too fast, you'll lose precious time after the apex trying to just keep the car from leaving the track. In the 911, I try to hit the apex in 1st gear at around 58 mph (I know that's an odd speed, but it gives me a little leeway in case it's actually more like 60 mph).

It sounds like somebody cares... (I know what you meant, by the way, but I couldn't help myself - please don't be offended.)

Yes, turn 12 is where I lose it most, but also turn 4 sometimes. I think it's just a throttle control issue where I try and get on the power too fast while still turning and the back end comes around on me. It might just be the car I'm using but I've not yet tried any other Gr.3 cars on this track. I'm probably going to try the 911 today since I'm pretty comfortable in it from the Time Trial. I can go cleanly through more often than not, but it only takes one mistake to ruin a race. Add a bit of contact from other drivers into that and it is a recipe for disaster.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Don’t you ever sleep?!

I usually go to bed between 7-8pm, and wake up around 2am. I know it's a strange sleep schedule, but it's due to some meds I take for restless leg syndrome. If I don't take them early enough, then they may not work, which means no sleep. But they also make me sleepy. So... I'm up early, might as well race!

Or are you part of my team #insomniacracing?

Is that a thing?

It's the seeming desperation to fight to the death over relatively pointless places.

Very true. I just had a race where I started P5 but ended up in 12th place. Towards the end of lap 5 I was behind someone I knew was holding me up, and at T12 I almost binned him. I said to myself "WTH are you doing, you idiot?!" As if P11 would be so much better than P12? So I fell back and let both of us have a nice last lap.

I hope everyone will share theirs when they hit the big 1K?

I know I just posted a screenshot of my stats, and this may sound like bragging... ah, who's kidding who? It's definitely bragging, although I think it shows mostly that I'm retired and have too much free time:

So I'll let you know when I reach 2000.

but also turn 4 sometimes.

I wonder if you've had the same problem as me there? I found out I had a tendency of getting my wheels barely off the right edge of the track, just as I start applying the brakes, and that causes me to lose control every time. I leave the driving line on, and the line leads you very close to that side of the track, so although I don't follow the driving line religiously, it affects me subconsciously. Hmm, maybe it's time to turn that off.

I'm probably going to try the 911 today

Good luck! I've fallen in love with it, after months of ignoring it because of having driven some of those Porsche road cars that don't handle well, in career mode. But the Gr.3 911 is awesome.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

@TechnoIsLove :

The McLaren is a really good fit for that track:

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🥳

Was wondering when I'd get a notification with my name tagged in a comment 🤣 Well done! What starting position you getting? I got a P8 once and most of the time it's between P9 and P11 surrounded by 911's 🤐

 

[HadOne2Many]

I wonder if you've had the same problem as me there? I found out I had a tendency of getting my wheels barely off the right edge of the track, just as I start applying the brakes, and that causes me to lose control every time. I leave the driving line on, and the line leads you very close to that side of the track, so although I don't follow the driving line religiously, it affects me subconsciously. Hmm, maybe it's time to turn that off.

Good luck! I've fallen in love with it, after months of ignoring it because of having driven some of those Porsche road cars that don't handle well, in career mode. But the Gr.3 911 is awesome.

It's possible I'm going to wide on entry. It's after the apex when I'm getting back on the throttle and positioning the car for the next apex that it happens.
It feels like I'm hitting a patch of ice. It's instant too, no chance in saving it. I'd probably need to save a replay of when it happens to really figure it out. Admittedly I'm rusty and getting older isn't helping my reflexes on the track, and I'm using the PSVR2 with no driving line so there's alot of new variables fighting against my muscle memory. Also no clutch pedal which is a change in how I used to race. For the most part I'm feeling like I'm at 90-95% where I was before speed and consistency wise but then things like these two turns pop up and get me scratching my head. I've tried sticking in higher gears throughout the turns, down shifting to rotate them immediately shifting back up, etc.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Was wondering when I'd get a notification with my name tagged in a comment 🤣 Well done! What starting position you getting? I got a P8 once and most of the time it's between P9 and P11 surrounded by 911's 🤐

I actually haven't done a race so far, so, no idea. But I'll do one or two tonight.

When chasing your time, for more than half an hour I sat on a 1:31,855 as my personal best, which I had hit (on the 1/1000th) twice in a span of three laps. That almost made me give up.😇

 

[Bullwinkle]

Is that a thing?

It’s not, actually, but I’m spoofing off of what I inspired @Leon Kowalski to call #lunchbreakracing. My cancer meds make my sleep schedule weird at times, and I learned a few years ago during chemotherapy to just roll with it. So some nights I’m up at 2 AM for no reason and I decide to go ahead and do some racing. Unusually lead with the chat comment #insomniacracing. It should be a team though.

Very true. I just had a race where I started P5 but ended up in 12th place. Towards the end of lap 5 I was behind someone I knew was holding me up, and at T12 I almost binned him. I said to myself "WTH are you doing, you idiot?!" As if P11 would be so much better than P12? So I fell back and let both of us have a nice last lap.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

It's possible I'm going to wide on entry. It's after the apex when I'm getting back on the throttle and positioning the car for the next apex that it happens.
It feels like I'm hitting a patch of ice. It's instant too, no chance in saving it.

Yes, that section is really fiddly. I've found that I end up much faster if I take it slower than I think, hug the apex, and wait a little past the apex before I really get on it. Also, this is a place where me using TCS 1 helps. But it's certainly not necessary.

It’s not, actually, but I’m spoofing off of what I inspired @Leon Kowalski to call #lunchbreakracing. My cancer meds make my sleep schedule weird at times, and I learned a few years ago during chemotherapy to just roll with it. So some nights I’m up at 2 AM for no reason and I decide to go ahead and do some racing. Unusually lead with the chat comment #insomniacracing. It should be a team though.

I get it. I'm learning to just "go with it" also, time-wise.

"Moonstruck" clip: Still one of my favorites.

 

[Bullwinkle]

"Moonstruck" clip: Still one of my favorites.

I think it’ll be my go-to meme for a while here.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I think it’ll be my go-to meme for a while here.

Because it fits so many different situations!

 

[HadOne2Many]

Interlagos, switched from GTR to 911, dropped a half second off my QT and it's definitely more stable. Down to a 1:33.4 now and that's without running laps after dusk. Going to take a break then run the daily.

EDIT: First Win! Got the pole and raced 6 great laps, battled a bit with 2nd, his aggression cost him and he crashed himself out on lap 2. Hot lapping from there.

 

[Fezzik]

Don’t know how everyone is so damn quick in the Honda 272. Maybe all using max assists (CSA and ASM feel wrong for something like that).

Not a car for me, I need downforce.

 

[bone_tone]

Don’t know how everyone is so damn quick in the Honda 272. Maybe all using max assists (CSA and ASM feel wrong for something like that).

Not a car for me, I need downforce.

I don't know how they do it either, but I've been enjoying the races (even if my SR hasn't!).

Had a guy with a C/S rating today, on pole with a laptime 3 seconds quicker than anybody else - a fallen alien perhaps? Didn't stop him getting punted to last at T1, but he managed to recover to win by 12 seconds....

I've also been embarrassed to find that I'm 4 seconds slower than everyone on my friends list for Race C! Thought I'd enter anyway, partly to recover some SR - started P16, as expected, but finished P9. Happy with that!

 

[Globato44]

I love slow street cars, but I think High Speed Ring makes absolutely no sense for a Fiat 500. I'll give it a try anyway, so I have to design one cool livery for it. Probably won't try Races B and C because I won't have much time next week.

 

[TheNormsk]

The stats are interesting and I've been thinking recently, seeing posts here of people getting poles and victories, what is the rate I might expect this. Apart from the one week with the tuner cars around Suzuka, I have found getting on the podium a challenge. When I do, it is usually 3rd and pole are not existant as well. I find that if I qualify well I might start P2/P3 as there is always someone faster and then if I do well in that race, say get a podium, my DR goes up and I get put in lobbies with faster DR B drivers and then I QT mid pack and race mid pack. That continues until I finish in the bottom 8 and my DR drops and I get into easier lobbies again; and so I bounce around. I never get into a lobby where I am competitive enough to win because being in the bottom 20% DR B, if I do well I just get promoted into harder lobbies.

So I pulled your stats to compare.

Not exactly a large sample population but I do see I am somewhat off the mark. For the 163 races I've done since January my clean, fastest, pole, victory and top 5 states are somewhat lower than the others here.

Do I'm wondering, given the number of races you've done, do you recall that your earlier races where more like mine, where you bounced around lobbies seemingly to never win, but then over the course of races you started to find your flow? Does the winning become easier the more races you do?

Or, more likely, do I just suck?

 

[Mercia]

The stats are interesting and I've been thinking recently, seeing posts here of people getting poles and victories, what is the rate I might expect this. Apart from the one week with the tuner cars around Suzuka, I have found getting on the podium a challenge. When I do, it is usually 3rd and pole are not existant as well. I find that if I qualify well I might start P2/P3 as there is always someone faster and then if I do well in that race, say get a podium, my DR goes up and I get put in lobbies with faster DR B drivers and then I QT mid pack and race mid pack. That continues until I finish in the bottom 8 and my DR drops and I get into easier lobbies again; and so I bounce around. I never get into a lobby where I am competitive enough to win because being in the bottom 20% DR B, if I do well I just get promoted into harder lobbies.

So I pulled your stats to compare.

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Not exactly a large sample population but I do see I am somewhat off the mark. For the 163 races I've done since January my clean, fastest, pole, victory and top 5 states are somewhat lower than the others here.

Do I'm wondering, given the number of races you've done, do you recall that your earlier races where more like mine, where you bounced around lobbies seemingly to never win, but then over the course of races you started to find your flow? Does the winning become easier the more races you do?

Or, more likely, do I just suck?

Boy do things like this make me wish we had more stats to comb through.

I miss KudosPrime and its GT Sport stat fest very much, if that's new to you GT Sport allowed clever users to build a website that pulled a plethora of stats for every player and display them in a feast of your own numbers and lap times etc. It was fantastic. And now long gone, le sigh.

I bounce around as well so have a similar experience, I'm competitive until I'm moved up and then I'm not, until I fall back down. With some exceptions.

The more races you do the more chances you will have to find the combos you excel in, the tracks you are best at and the chance to drive them in the cars you have the best control over. That may lead to some great results even in a higher tier, which is a lot of fun!

For example, I'm very good in the kart, for some reason compared to players at my usual level it just clicks for me, so in the couple of times we have had kart dailies I've been able to score wins consistently and add to my stats with poles / fastest laps etc. only limited by the amount of time I've had to play and of course there are always going to be good players around anyway who will stop me doing it every single race... I'm not an alien, unfortunately. But from a ratio standpoint I was able to score well in those.

That's not the only one I do well in but just as an example. When you do click with a combo, and you have the time available, binge it, take it for all you can get.