GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Not sure about race B this week, it's going to take me most of the week just to learn that configuration. Had a practice session last night and kept slamming into the concrete pit wall about halfway round the lap. Think I'd be a danger to the other drivers at the moment if I raced.
 
C works now.
Whoever is responsible for the bop settings, he she it dosnt like controller user. Im more then 3 sec off my tuned hotlap. In gt sport the gap was never more then 1.5 second between tune and no tune.
 
Just starting out with Q laps at Lago Maggiore this week. I'll preface this by saying that I've always had poor memory. So even though I knew we'd raced a portion of this track before, I just couldn't place it.

Until I met this:
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Oh yeah, now I remember. 🤬😂

In spite of that, so far I'm loving this track. Lots of fun to drive. It'll probably be a wreckfest, but so what else is new?

Not sure about race B this week, it's going to take me most of the week just to learn that configuration. Had a practice session last night and kept slamming into the concrete pit wall about halfway round the lap. Think I'd be a danger to the other drivers at the moment if I raced.
I don't know if this'll help or not: At first I was sliding all over the place. So I turned on CA and ASM, and that solved the problem. I also set TCS to 1. Once I get used to the track, I'll see what I can turn off. And right now, I'm using the V12 since it's one of my favorite cars to drive, and I love the engine sound.
 
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Anyone tried Race A? Does it make sense?

Looking just at its configuration looks very odd
i did 15 minutes of qualifying just to see how the weather elapsed... the wind speed changed and the clouds became grey but nothing ever showed up on the radar. so... its possible that it will rain, but i won't count on it until i hear others have it.

as others have said this is a really bad circuit for this car, rain the whole race would make it even more of a slog. i enjoy working out the kinks in Race A choices, but this car doesn't have the juice to do 4th gear on this track / its really easy to over-rev it on 3rd gear. they usually pick tsukuba for these sorts of cars, so there is something to master, but this is all straightaways with hardly any braking. havent watched the top times yet but either way i think Race A will see an enormous drop in users this week.

edit update: did a race, which i didnt realize is (mercifully) 6 minutes long, so absolutely 0 weather involved. i am happy for anyone who enjoys this particular race but i really do not get it - if you aren't on the correct line going into the turns, you fall way back, and then have to figure out how to make way for the cars behind who hit the line. not much in the way of technique here.
 
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I don't know if this'll help or not: At first I was sliding all over the place. So I turned on CA and ASM, and that solved the problem. I also set TCS to 1. Once I get used to the track, I'll see what I can turn off. And right now, I'm using the V12 since it's one of my favorite cars to drive, and I love the engine sound.
It's not car control that's the problem (for once) - my brain is just being very slow to learn the layout, so I keep going way too fast through that particular corner and smashing the nose into the wall.

It's always the way with the reverse layouts.
 
I have a question - not specifically for you, but anyone who posts about this subject, and I don't mean to be disrespectful.

Does anyone think anything they say here is going to affect PD at all? I'm serious. Because I can't imagine it making any kind of difference. I'd be shocked as hell if anyone from PD even read any of this, let alone listened to anyone's suggestions.

I'd love to be wrong. And actually, I'm hoping someone can chime in with knowledge that PD actually does read these posts. But it really just seems like howling at the moon.

Which I'm all for, by the way - howling at the moon. I do it all the time. I just don't expect the moon to care one way or the other. ;p So don't let me stop you from howling - I'm just curious if anyone thinks it could actually make a difference.
Not so much, but I sometimes wonder. PD makes changes if the public outcry is loud enough, and that has to start somewhere. We make observations all the time that eventually get fixed, although that doesn’t prove anything. I’d like to think we’re a hot bed of revolution! Or at least a testing ground for the next big outrage. If enough people get going here, maybe it gains momentum and starts to trend on Twitter or elsewhere, at which point I think PD really does pay attention. I’m just howling at the moon, but sometimes the other wolves join in too!
Hell, in this game you get a wall colliding penalty after being rammed of track and the perpetrator drives happely along without any punishment. Beyond believe that PD is still not able to get simple things like that sorted out!
This is the heart of the problem. Until they figure out this very simple and all-too-common scenario, it’s a joke to call it a “penalty system” at all. So far the solution is to kill everyone’s SR so they go to worse lobbies and then get even worse SR, and then queue the death spiral. Penalties are supposed to help those people who are exercising good sportsmanship, not those who are gaming the system. I know there will always be loopholes, but to not even try is just pathetic for a driving “simulator.”
How did they not know this was a problem? Don't they even try out these daily races before they push them out to us?
Unfortunately, I think the answer is in your question already.
3 races i have next to zero interest in..... not sure that i ever went two weeks without racing in gtsport
I think this is going to be more and more common. I raced every day for a year until after Christmas, and now I skip many days and even a week. The dailies have become bland rehashes of prior races and starts to feel like grinding the single player content.
That's the thing. When you just keep it clean and fair, you definitly will gain positions during a Daily Race.
Or, you definitely will get taken advantage of, pushed and punted by horrible drivers who love to ruin your race. I wish that sportsmanship was actually rewarded in this game, but experience says otherwise. There are some lobbies and times of day where you find the right mix of people who race well together, and those are the times when you need to do as many races as you can and then walk away for a while. There are incredibly rewarding days like that, but unfortunately there are many more incredibly aggravating days.
You gotta love the Youtube AI. The automatic subtitles told me that race B is at Lego Missouri East. Good to know. 😆
I live near there. You don’t want to go there, trust me! :eek:
 
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Just starting out with Q laps at Interlagos this week. I'll preface this by saying that I've always had poor memory. So even though I knew we'd raced a portion of this track before, I just couldn't place it.
@GrumpyOldMan, before you get crazy to understand what you are doing wrong.... this is not Interlagos :D

sorry, I'm dumb, but I couldn't help myself

The turn in your picture is worrysome for me, but more is this

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I can make it way too slow, or way too on the grass, nothing in the middle
and this is when I'm alone...
 
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@GrumpyOldMan, before you get crazy to understand what you are doing wrong.... this is not Interlagos :D

sorry, I'm dumb, but I couldn't help myself

The turn in your picture is worrysome for me, but more is this

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I can make it way too slow, or way too on the grass, nothing in the middle
and this is when I'm alone...
That is a very challenging turn. Brake late and aim for a very late apex, accelerate hard and take the exit very wide. The track limits are very forgiving.
 
Or, you definitely will get taken advantage of, pushed and punted by horrible drivers who love to ruin your race. I wish that sportsmanship was actually rewarded in this game, but experience says otherwise. There are some lobbies and times of day where you find the right mix of people who race well together, and those are the times when you need to do as many races as you can and then walk away for a while. There are incredibly rewarding days like that, but unfortunately there are many more incredibly aggravating days.
The racing i had on Race B last week was not that bad to be honest. Offcourse, there were some people who are more into creating carnage then normal racing, but it was not that terrible. I actually had some fun this week.
 
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@GrumpyOldMan, before you get crazy to understand what you are doing wrong.... this is not Interlagos :D

sorry, I'm dumb, but I couldn't help myself
You're not dumb - I am! I copied the wrong text.
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The turn in your picture is worrysome for me, but more is this

Autodrome_Lago_Maggiore_-_East.jpg


I can make it way too slow, or way too on the grass, nothing in the middle
and this is when I'm alone...
Well then, I guess you're screwed. LOL, just kidding. I always watch some Q leaders' replays to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

EDIT: @Tidgney calls that corner "a very scary corner" in his video.
 
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The racing i had on Race B last week was not that bad to be honest. Offcourse, there were some people who are more into creating carnage then normal racing, but it was not that terrible. I actually had some fun this week.
There may be some regional considerations as well. Without generalising too much, I've watched some non-Euro race streams around my DR/SR level and they are notably more aggresive/assertive/impatient.
 
Looking at spending most of my time in Race B this week, Super Formulas don't interest me much. I don't know the Lago Maggiore track, ran some qualify laps to get a feel for it, low 1:20 is my starting time. Not sure what to expect yet on where that will put me in DR C races, feels like a middle of the pack time to me. Going to run a few races against the AI until I'm able to string together multiple laps at a reasonable pace before I jumped into any races.
 
Well then, I guess you're screwed.

That's what is written in my GT7 license plate

EDIT: @Tidgney calls that corner "a very scary corner" in his video.

I tried to figure it out by myself yesterday. I think it's beneficial to me to try by myself before getting help. Most of the time it works, at least to move from bad to acceptable, and them with help I progress again.

This one, I'm still sitting to bad, so I'm looking forward to check what @Tidgney is coming up with
 
The track for race b looks proper awful. PD seem obsessed recently with awkward race tracks that feel like you're walking behind someone who is a step slower than you.

IMHO the game really needs more proper tracks, traditional ones not hateful ones like Fuji. Road America, Sepang, Hockenheim, Eastern Creek, Magny Cours etc. Tracks with traditional corners and apexes not rollercoasters or decreasing radius or hopping over variation gaps etc. Just be normal PD.
 
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That's what is written in my GT7 license plate



I tried to figure it out by myself yesterday. I think it's beneficial to me to try by myself before getting help. Most of the time it works, at least to move from bad to acceptable, and them with help I progress again.

This one, I'm still sitting to bad, so I'm looking forward to check what @Tidgney is coming up with
I'm trying the 911, what is working for me so far is just enough brake to downshift from 4th to 2nd right where the striped curb starts, but not too quickly. Gives me enough rotation to hit the apex without going wide and keeps the car pretty stable.
 
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Race C for me this week, the other two don’t look appetising! The car is not as terrifying as I thought it might be and is quite manageable with TC off. I set a reasonably quick lap for QT before jumping into a race and started 3rd on the grid. The grid start took me by surprise and I lost a few places, and then the cold medium tyres/dirty air/peculiar braking of other drivers led to a few collisions and offs which took me down to 9th.

Slowly found a groove and some space on track but it wasn’t until end of lap 6 when I pitted for softs that I started to make headway. Got some clear track and some rhythm and started setting good lap times (can’t remember from memory but I think they were in the 1:37s). Overtook a few and finished 5th

I’ve set a few quicker QT laps (again I can’t remember but I’m thinking it was in the 1:35s), I think a good QT is paramount here as dirty air and pinball drivers will hurt elsewhere. 6 medium/4 soft seemed to work for me. I enjoyed it! Fun car to hustle once you get the dexterity at high speed down 😎

The other two I’m not going to go near unless somebody says race A is a revelation!
 
Just starting out with Q laps at Lago Maggiore this week. I'll preface this by saying that I've always had poor memory. So even though I knew we'd raced a portion of this track before, I just couldn't place it.

Until I met this:
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Oh yeah, now I remember. 🤬😂

In spite of that, so far I'm loving this track. Lots of fun to drive. It'll probably be a wreckfest, but so what else is new?


I don't know if this'll help or not: At first I was sliding all over the place. So I turned on CA and ASM, and that solved the problem. I also set TCS to 1. Once I get used to the track, I'll see what I can turn off. And right now, I'm using the V12 since it's one of my favorite cars to drive, and I love the engine sound.
I know that barrier. lol.. There was a Gr3 race a month or two ago on some version of this track. It was only short laps IIRC and the 911 and Mustang dominated. If you started somewhere around 12th or 13th then right after the 1,2,3 countdown you were headed right for that barrier and had to immediately crank hard right just to miss it. I know this because I was too slow reacting once and creamed it. I was also further back the next race and saw another racer hit it.

Great way to start a race. Crashing about 1 second into the race and 10 seconds short of the start line...lol
 
First B race done, ended up in a mixed DR B/C race, my QT had me at 2nd. I stayed there for 3 laps but then missed my braking mark on the blind up hill straight. Went a little wide and 3rd and 4th caught me. Ended up P4, beat all the DR Cs and a good portion of the Bs. Pretty good start and has me feeling good about this week. I don't mind the lack of passing zones, I am content in falling in line and waiting for mistakes to happen.
 
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Yeah tried a few qualy laps in race C and no way can it be done with D-pad so i'll try the wheel. It's a fun lap if you can nail it, so much downforce and a soft tyre... my goodness the grip.
 
The track for race b looks proper awful. PD seem obsessed recently with awkward race tracks that feel like you're walking behind someone who is a step slower than you.

IMHO the game really needs more proper tracks, traditional ones not hateful ones like Fuji. Road America, Sepang, Hockenheim, Eastern Creek, Magny Cours etc. Tracks with traditional corners and apexes not rollercoasters or decreasing radius or hopping over variation gaps etc. Just be normal PD.
PD has taken their fantasy track design instructions directly from the source of horrible circuits: Hermann Tilke
Long straight into heavy braking zone into long straight into sweeping but tightening curve into heavy braking zone into chicane into long straight into heavy braking zone rinse lather repeat.

I maintain that no good circuits exist that were built after the 1960s. Back then cars had to have sweeping turns and long braking zones because of the technology of the day and those types of circuits make for the most interesting racing.
For example I'd rather lap Spa, Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, Nordschleif, Road Atlanta over anything PD has designed and built themselves.


Some of their home growns are pretty good, great even for some classes of cars, but nothing beats OG road circuits in terms of flow and fun.
 
I'm having fun so far with Race A this week. So far, I have a time in the top 1k, but I can't say I'm a fan of the wall-riding I've been seeing in that last turn that ends the first sector. I don't even think it offers much of an advantage. I agree that it would've potentially made more sense to have this car at Tsukuba, but I can't say I mind racing at High Speed Ring. Especially when my first race using these regulations got me a clean Q6/P3!
 
If ChatGPT designed daily races....this is what we would end up with.

I feel this weeks races have been chosen to showcase more PSVR - a slow easy and accessible race. A race featuring exaggerated elevation with one of the trickiest down hill corners for GT physics and finally a race highlighting the sense of speed.

These races don't feel like they were chosen for quality racing or even to answer the question "what is sportsmanship..."
 
I feel much better today so I jumped on for a quick QT on race A. Got a 1:51.115 and I shared it with the tag gtp11. We’re week 11 now right?

Haven’t done a race yet but feel it might be hilarious. This should be my “spiritual” race. Used to own a Fiat Cinquecento Sporting in the 90s.
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It only had a top speed of 93mph and a 0-60 of 14 seconds but it had super soft tires and once up to speed it went round corners like a go cart.
 
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