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In case anyone cares, I shared my QT for Daily Race B of 1:18.823 in the V12 Vantage. Search for "gtp11".

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I thought I would give the Super Formula a spin to see if I could handle it, and in just a few laps it's way above my skill level. I'll keep turning some laps but there is no way I'm racing others online. I'll try race B tomorrow and see if I can do better. Any suggestions for cars? I didn't check the leader board to see what was popular.
 
Won Daily Race A this week on second attempt. :D Some things:
1. This race really demands you to stay in the leading draft pack through out the race. If you fall out of it, there's no catching up.
2. There's no penalty for getting having all four wheels off on the outside of corner entries.
3. Brakes or no brakes? I saw some folks using brakes but I never touched them myself. I simply released throttle on 2nd corner. Staying in 4th gear or downshifting to 3rd seemingly made no difference. I downshifted to 3rd on third corner and let the cornering further scrub off the speed.
4. I always use AT but this is one of races where using MT is pretty easy.
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A shot of the close finish. :gtpflag:
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yeah, tried the SF19 and when you put together a decent qualy lap, it feels great. But my first actual race, did not go so well. Qualy is one thing, but in traffic, it is frightening! There is no room for error and I didn't survive lap 1. Made my share of mistakes so not blaming anyone.

Last week I ran the Lancer at interlagos, and it is my pick again for race B; really stable. I am usually a 911 fan-boy but that Lancer has quickly become my second favorite. I recall alternating both of these at laguna seca a few weeks back, ran nearly identical laps in them.
 
So I did 20 laps with the wheel, feels way more natural given the car and the track. Bested my controller time by 1.5 seconds for an38.6 but a)that's still slow and b) I am ALL OVER THE ROAD. Steering is so, so, so sensitive, nothing like a real-life car (I have some time in a small open wheel car). I am either over or under applying steering, it is very, very frustrating.

Can confirm tc1 with a wheel is far less intrusive than with controller.
 
First time on Fiat 500 race. I did 4 quali laps and got 1:50.530.

I said I love slow cars but I didn't understand this car+track combination, and I still don't get it. It's just about nailing the only turn requiring you to brake.

Anyway, I managed to achieve my 4th win ever.

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I shouldn't have used my "work in progress" suit and helmet. :banghead:




I don't know if I'll race it again. Yes, winning feels great and I suspect I could win some more (specially since there's no DR update), but I don't have time this week and I still have to practice Sardegna for Nations Cup (I've never used a Gr.2 online and I don't even know the track).
 
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So I did 20 laps with the wheel, feels way more natural given the car and the track. Bested my controller time by 1.5 seconds for an38.6 but a)that's still slow and b) I am ALL OVER THE ROAD. Steering is so, so, so sensitive, nothing like a real-life car (I have some time in a small open wheel car). I am either over or under applying steering, it is very, very frustrating.

Can confirm tc1 with a wheel is far less intrusive than with controller.
The BOP setup is honestly terrible. 1400F-2000R(41:59) downforce on a car with 45:55 weight distribution is a sick joke.

Tries so hard to be accessible that it just ends up handling weirdly.
 
I had quite the night!

Started with race A. And I painted my 500 an official Ferrari yellow, so that it goes faster! :D
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DRA Race 1 - Q5 to P4
Chaos at turn 2 dropped me to 12th by turn 3. towards the end of lap 2 I was still 12 but then I started to make moves... Entering turn 2 on lap 3, some truly awesome driving allowed me to get the speed up to carve my way through the crowd of the remaining lap to finish P4. There'll be video of this later in the week. For my abilities it was truly heroic! :cheers:

DRA Race 2 - Q4 to P10
Was up to P3 but on lap 2 in the turn 3/4 got hit and dropped to 10 to never recover.

DRA Race 3 - Q3 to P2
Got the jump on P2 at the start and was P1 by turn 2. P2 then bump drafted me until start of lap 2 when he was able to pass me. I then bump drafted him until the last turn but messed up and gave one too many bumps pushing him just enough to keep P1. I finished P2. Without that last bump I could have passed on the draft... Lesson learned.

Then I switched to race B.

DRB Race 1 - Q7 to P5
A bit scrappy at the start. Changed between P7 and P8 several times on lap 1. On lap 2 picked up a spot to P6 at T7. Going forward, it would seem that getting that corner right is one of the better overtaking spots, as in later races I also gained advantage there.… A spin out on lap 4 allowed me to move up to P5 and that is where I finished. This race though dropped my SR from S to A.

DRB Race 2 - Q5 to P8
Worked my way to p3 by lap 3 but got hit at turn 1 putting me down to p8 with a lovely barrier penalty for good measure. Never recovered from that. Turned the the car the hit me, also hit the person behind me moving up. Dirty driver, I think. I'll post up video later probably.

DRB Race 3 - Q7 to P11
I crashed myself out in this one after managing to get up to p5 in lap 1. Dropped to 14. Worked my way back to finish p11. While I did not do well I enjoyed a bit of karma watching the driver who took me out in the prior race (who was in front of me when I was P5) get taken out by the driver behind me. Very glad he missed me.

DRB Race 4 - Q4 to P4
I’d dropped to P5 during the race but lucked out at T1 on the last lap when one of the leaders crashed out. Finished p4.

DRB Race 5 - Q5 to P2
P3 by turn 1. Got the jump on P2 coming out of t7 (the hairpin #2). Almost lost that at lap2 turn 1 but a switcharoo had a quick p2/p3 swap and then back. After that it was just p1 and myself to the end. Finished second about 1/2 second back. Best race of the bunch and I called it a night there while my luck was still good.
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Mondays are always the best night for me. During the week everyone else gets faster, but I'm liking this circuit in reverse with the Gr.3 cars. The ever faithful Porsche 911RSR hauls ass around this track.

I actually got some clean race bonuses on DRB but I ended the night, still as SR A. There is enough racing bumps in this race that even if you hold it together it can be hazardous to your sportsmanship rating.

I did have a quick try at Race C. Yeah, not sure about that one. Very nervous handling. With a bit of practice and detuning the sensitivity of my wheel I could handle it, but I think I may just focus on Race B... At least until everyone starts getting faster than me...



Side note, is anyone here called Deputy_Fishtail? There was this racer in the last race and kept of saying hi to me like they knew me but I do not recognize the tag.
 
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I'm not sure about the Daily Races from this week. I tried to set a decent QT time on Race B, but me as a driver and this track is not the best combination.. I loose the back-end of the car at T1, I'm struggling in the S'ses and I loose it again at the downhill hairpin. After a decent time of practice I thought i could give it a go, but being a A-rated driver since this sunday and a bad QT time sets me all the way to the back of the grid. At T1 i gained two spots, but lost the car at the downhill hairpin, hitted the wall and never had the chance to recover from that...

It is the first time in months that I'm struggling with a racetrack on the Daily's. Race C is just something else. It is cool to drive the Super Formula's, but i really need to put some practice in it first before online racing them.
 
Had a very quick blast on race C last night, did a few qualy laps to get going and jumped into a race.
The car is great fun to drive takes some getting used to compared to the GT cars and I really feel like wheels users are at an even bigger advantage here.
Like everyone else has said it becomes a battle to survive the first lap without incident to have a good race, I didn't do this and was dead last after the first corner, managed to fight back to 6th in the end, recorded it if anyone wants a watch!
 
Can confirm tc1 with a wheel is far less intrusive than with controller.
Interesting! Have other people noticed this too?
I'll try race B tomorrow and see if I can do better. Any suggestions for cars?
I love the V12 Vantage here. But there's a lot of options available. I also recommend using assists, unless you're really good without them, because the track has a lot of tight turns, elevation changes, and odd angles.
 
I'll try race B tomorrow and see if I can do better. Any suggestions for cars? I didn't check the leader board to see what was popular.
Haven't raced it yet but found the AMG was good (for me) doing quali laps. As Tidgney pointed out in his lap guide, the MR cars can get a bit twitchy on some corners like the left hand hairpin - if you can tame that the RSR is very strong as ever.
 
Race C all the way, i love the track with any car and it really comes alive with fast cars like the Super Formula cars. The trick is to survive the first lap then do 9 laps without any major mistakes, and finally enjoy the top 3 thanks to people quitting left and right.
This! Last night I had a run of 3, 3, 4 and 3. In all four races I was hit off in the first lap madness losing over 20 seconds, while then finishing within 10 seconds off 1st in every single race. I just need to survive lap 1 as I seem to have a lot more consistent race pace than most people!

Even with that though I'm loving the race combination, the car has so much rear end stability it is a joy to throw in to corners. It's crazy how much the field is spread though, B/A have a one lap average time difference of nearly 2 seconds during the race!
 
I thought I would give the Super Formula a spin to see if I could handle it, and in just a few laps it's way above my skill level. I'll keep turning some laps but there is no way I'm racing others online. I'll try race B tomorrow and see if I can do better. Any suggestions for cars? I didn't check the leader board to see what was popular.
I've gotten my best quali lap thus far in the Hyundai (not Genesis X). It was an 18.5. Next was Mustang. I am learning a new wheel right now so take those with a grain of salt. I can't seem to get along with the Porsche anymore. The understeer is ridiculous on that car.

A decent number of cars on the leader-boards; at least as of last night. The 911 seems to be the most popular but there were some Lambos and Evos as well; Audi was P1 last I saw. That being said, I don't typically even look at the top 100 as those aliens can make anything fast.
 
Can confirm tc1 with a wheel is far less intrusive than with controller.

Interesting! Have other people noticed this too?

Not sure what "less intrusive" means. It does cut less? less frequently?

I can tell you that when I was on controller (PS4) on average I was using more TC, now, with wheels, I'm mostly on TC0, maybe TC1 with particular cars or car track combo.

I probably drive better and for sure I have more feeling with the gas pedal then with the pad trigger. I am probably not good enough to get that "less introsive"
 
I am loving running Q laps at Lago Maggiore this week. I'm currently at 1:18.746. I've done 4 races and the results are mixed (more poor than good), but driving this track for Qualifying is awesome! I think it's a combination of a lot of things. Here's a few:

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  1. I can't remember smiling as much during Q laps as I have the last 2 days. I mean, my cheeks are getting sore from smiling. I'm certainly not Grumpy here.
  2. As I've said many times, I love the engine sound of the V12 Vantage.
  3. I think I understand this track pretty well, although I reserve the right to piss and moan when I forget how to drive it. 😛
  4. There's several sections you can just blast through at pretty-much full-tilt. T4-6 are a blast, and once I figured out T7, it's smooth and fun.
  5. T10-11 will always be my least favorite, but I've done them pretty well a lot of times. I have a better understanding of how to drive them than the last time we last had these corners, even if I don't hit it every time.
  6. Not only do I love the sound of the V12, but its gearing seems to be about perfect on this track, for me.
  7. With TCS 1, ASM On and CA on Strong, for me the V12 feels like it's glued to the track (other than T8 of course). Obviously if I don't hit my lines and speed, that's not the case, but when I do, it feels like it's a slot car.
I suspect my experience doing actual races may not line up with my Q experience - time will tell. But at least I'm having a blast right now. I hope some of you can get the same experience from this track.
 
The BOP setup is honestly terrible. 1400F-2000R(41:59) downforce on a car with 45:55 weight distribution is a sick joke.

Tries so hard to be accessible that it just ends up handling weirdly.
I think it handles great once you get the hang of it. You can go flat out through most parts of the esses in sector 1 all the way until the last corner of sector 2. It goes like it's on rails, turns super well and just sticks to the track. I'm using a wheel though, don't know how it's like with a pad.

Really like this combo and I'm doing ok for the first time since I started racing in VR a couple of weeks ago. Like someone already mentioned the key is to survive the first lap and try not to make mistakes for the rest of the race and you'll probably finish top half. A good QT helps, obviously. Also, don't forget the boost!
 
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The BOP setup is honestly terrible. 1400F-2000R(41:59) downforce on a car with 45:55 weight distribution is a sick joke.

Tries so hard to be accessible that it just ends up handling weirdly.
I realise it's a full blown formula car but not sure if it's the car or my wheel but dear god, it's absolutely ridiculous. I'd love to try another wheel to see if mine is defective because if i go 1mm too far the car LURCHES across the road, it's so sensitive. So I can turn a moderately reasonable Q lap but in a race i'd be a total and utter menace.
Interesting! Have other people noticed this too?
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Not sure what "less intrusive" means. It does cut less? less frequently?
With a controller, I find TC borderline unusable in GT7 because it is so aggressive, even on TC1, that it kills my time. With the wheel, it seems to cut in far less often and i lose way less time on exit. Similarly, I can use the SF car on TC0 with the controller but need TC1 on a wheel despite having far, far greater control over throttle input.
 
I had quite the night!

Started with race A. And I painted my 500 an official Ferrari yellow, so that it goes faster! :D
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DRA Race 1 - Q5 to P4
Chaos at turn 2 dropped me to 12th by turn 3. towards the end of lap 2 I was still 12 but then I started to make moves... Entering turn 2 on lap 3, some truly awesome driving allowed me to get the speed up to carve my way through the crowd of the remaining lap to finish P4. There'll be video of this later in the week. For my abilities it was truly heroic! :cheers:

DRA Race 2 - Q4 to P10
Was up to P3 but on lap 2 in the turn 3/4 got hit and dropped to 10 to never recover.

DRA Race 3 - Q3 to P2
Got the jump on P2 at the start and was P1 by turn 2. P2 then bump drafted me until start of lap 2 when he was able to pass me. I then bump drafted him until the last turn but messed up and gave one too many bumps pushing him just enough to keep P1. I finished P2. Without that last bump I could have passed on the draft... Lesson learned.

Then I switched to race B.

DRB Race 1 - Q7 to P5
A bit scrappy at the start. Changed between P7 and P8 several times on lap 1. On lap 2 picked up a spot to P6. Going forward, it would seem that getting that corner right is one of the better overtaking spots, as in later races I also gained advantage there.… A spin out on lap 4 allowed me to move up to P5 and that is where I finished. This race though dropped my SR from S to A.

DRB Race 2 - Q5 to P8
Worked my way to p3 by lap 3 but got hit at turn 1 putting me down to p8 with a lovely barrier penalty for good measure. Never recovered from that. Turned the the car the hit me, also hit the person behind me moving up. Dirty driver, I think. I'll post up video later probably.

DRB Race 3 - Q7 to P11
I crashed myself out in this one after managing to get up to p5 in lap 1. Dropped to 14. Worked my way back to finish p11. While I did not do well I enjoyed a bit of karma watching the driver who took me out in the prior race (who was in front of me when I was P5) get taken out by the driver behind me. Very glad he missed me.

DRB Race 4 - Q4 to P4
I’d dropped to P5 during the race but lucked out at T1 on the last lap when one of the leaders crashed out. Finished p4.

DRB Race 5 - Q5 to P2
P3 by turn 1. Got the jump on P2 coming out of t8 (the hairpin #2). Almost lost that at lap2 turn 1 but a switcharoo had a quick p2/p3 swap and then back. After that it was just p1 and myself to the end. Finished second about 1/2 second back. Best race of the bunch and I called it a night there while my luck was still good.
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Mondays are always the best night for me. During the week everyone else gets faster, but I'm liking this circuit in reverse with the Gr3 cars. The ever faithful Porsche 911RSR hauls ass around this track.

I actually got some clean race bonuses on DRB but I ended the night, still as SR A. There is enough racing bumps in this race that even if you hold it together it can be hazardous to your sportsmanship rating.

I did have a quick try at Race C. Yeah, not sure about that one. Very nervous handling. With a bit of practice and detuning the sensitivity of my wheel I could handle it, but I think I may just focus on Race B... At least until everyone starts getting faster than me...



Side note, is anyone here called Deputy_Fishtail? There was this racer in the last race and kept of saying hi to me like they knew me but I do not recognize the tag.


Yeah it was me in your race spamming you with well wishes.

I only got in 3 race B’s and got punted hard in the first race ended up mid-pack after clawing back.

Second race I got through the cluster in t1 with p3 and the top 3 just drove away with me picking up a p2 finish after keeping enough pressure to get the position due to a bobble.

Race 3 with you was looking up pulling out of t1 as I missed the tangles but I got slammed into the wall at the bottom of the hill and when I got going and unghosted I got slammed into the next barrier and was awarded a 3 seconds penalty for being rammed off for the second time in 15 seconds.
Finished in p10 after fighting till the end and somehow got the CRB which did make me LoL.

Mixed results and that’s how it will be this week again. I’m going to keep racing the best I can and take whatever comes.
I don’t go in without QT to start at the back but I’m getting my fair share of races from the back due to punters so I’m practicing overtaking as my new goal.
Back to a mid-B DR after last week’s B race and I guess it will stop dropping when I find my true abilities of DR based on current state of the game.
 
I realise it's a full blown formula car but not sure if it's the car or my wheel but dear god, it's absolutely ridiculous. I'd love to try another wheel to see if mine is defective because if i go 1mm too far the car LURCHES across the road, it's so sensitive. So I can turn a moderately reasonable Q lap but in a race i'd be a total and utter menace.
Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity of your wheel in the game controller settings? There’s a lot of confusion about what it actually does, but this may be partly what that setting is for?
 
Fun fact: the wind conditions change in qualifying. And it actually matters.
it is tempting to start/restart until i get the wind boosting me on the straightaway! its more like flying a glider than driving, and i have to say its sort of won me over. also there are some very funny / adorable liveries out there.

aside: its absolutely ridiculous that i can't get a mariachi horn for my refrigerator car.
 
Yeah it was me in your race spamming you with well wishes.
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Race 3 with you was looking up pulling out of t1 as I missed the tangles but I got slammed into the wall at the bottom of the hill and when I got going and unghosted I got slammed into the next barrier and was awarded a 3 seconds penalty for being rammed off for the second time in 15 seconds.
Finished in p10 after fighting till the end and somehow got the CRB which did make me LoL.
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Back to a mid-B DR after last week’s B race and I guess it will stop dropping when I find my true abilities of DR based on current state of the game.
Well hello! Good to race with a fellow GTPer. Usually, most people here are too quick for me to be in the same lobbies. Currently I'm 33% through DR B. Good for me, bad for you I guess. :eek: I should add you to my friends list. I looked back at the replay. You were right behind me. P4 (in front of me) hit P3 into the wall at turn 1 gaining a 5 second penalty. That's where I jumped to P3 and you were then side by side the punter into turns 2 and 3. You got side swiped pretty good into the barrier with the punter gaining another 1.5s penalty. Great way to start a race!:banghead:

I was surprised at the 5 second penalty at turn 1 though compared to only 1.5 later on. They must have a stronger penalty for that turn?
Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity of your wheel in the game controller settings? There’s a lot of confusion about what it actually does, but this may be partly what that setting is for?
I found with high powered Gr.1 and formula cars that I need to dial down the Controller Steering Sensitivity. Usually I have this set at 7 with my G29 and while it states controller and not wheel, it still affects the wheel. Reducing down to one helped a lot when I was at Le Mans Circuit Experience in whatever ridiculous car that was.
 
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I haven't raced online in several weeks, if not months. I feel obligated to do Race C this week. It's pretty much made for VR. I did a few qualifying laps yesterday and it was pretty fun, though I'm about a second slower than I would be on flat, I think. I hope I can figure it out soon.
 
It seems that Race A is another PD experiment.

As @Leon Kowalski mentioned, the wind speed and direction is variable. Each time you enter a qualifying session, it will be different.
If you hit Retry, it will be the same. Hit Exit, then you'll see a change. Also, it will shift during a session.

I can't recall ever seeing that during any race qualifying.
I think the people at the top of the leaderboard are entering, and exiting repeatedly, until they get a favorable wind.

If you're further down the rankings than you think you should be, you may have had a headwind on the long straight, while others had a tailwind. This disparity is exacerbated with a low-powered car. In 500hp cars, it wouldn't make much difference. With a 65 hp car, it matters a lot. That's probably they chose this car.
 
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It seems that Race A is another PD experiment.

As @Leon Kowalski mentioned, the wind speed and direction is variable. Each time you enter a qualifying session, it will be different.
If you hit Retry, it will be the same. Hit Exit, then you'll see a change. Also, it will shift during a session.

I can't recall ever seeing that during any race qualifying.
I think the people at the top of the leaderboard are entering, and exiting repeatedly, until they get a favorable wind.

If you're further down the rankings than you think you should be, you may have had a headwind on the long straight, while others had a tailwind. This disparity is exacerbated with a low-powered car. In 500hp cars, it wouldn't make much difference. With a 65 hp car, it matters a lot.
Early in the game's life, a race at Daytona was like this until they changed it to fixed wind speed and direction. But it changed whenever you clicked retry.
 
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