GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Chrome_PuPXD]

In fact I haven't been running in the Dailies much, as I'm so far off the pace.

The pace is pretty crazy in the rooms I’ve been placed that I’m not really qualified to be in honestly. Racing against people with 90k+ DR when I’m (was) in the 30s is a bit silly.

Same here to be honest, as much as I loathe to admit it i'm not currently capable of racing the likes of Super GT and Kie, yet get placed in the same lobbies, takes a long time to put together what I feel is a great lap to start around ~14th-16th.

Still not bought the meta RCZ, as I expect the upcoming patch to have some BoP tweaks for the worst offenders(Atenza), stubbornly sticking with the NSX, though its high speed instability is causing me more issues the faster I try to be, struggle to get it up Eau Rouge consistently.

Still, theres lots of fun to be had outside competitive racing, i've been enjoying the Tsukuba 525pp time attack over in the leagues sub forum, check it out if you fancy a change of pace.

 

[HornetX1]

Is anyone else struggling at Deep Forest Raceway this week?

For the record I'm on controller with no assists, it has stick drift because the Dualsense are poor quality, but thats more of a problem with difficult to drive cars like the GTR or Toyota F1 GT or whatever it is (not the supra).

There are certain tracks I always do extremely well at (mainly the classic F1 tracks, especially Monza, Suzuka, sometimes Spa) but I also do really well at Brands Hatch for the most part too.

Last week I could easily hold my own & snatch some wins off the A+/S dominated lobbies where there's at least 5-7 of them (on my Alt account that's already A/S)
This week on my main account, I'm only upto B/S so far but I'm struggling to even hang with the people in B/S lobbies! It's madness

I'm actually struggling to get below a 1:28.1 for qually time using the 911, I think I can eek out to a 1:27.8ish but that's it.

I've tried the RCZ, the 911, both Toyotas, the GTR & something else I forgot. Anyway all of them feel like I'm wrestling the car just to stay on the circuit coming out of corners except for the 911.

The 911 actually felt by far the most stable & like I could get a bit more aggressive with it...but it's top speed is awful & I get walked down in the straights.

I don't know what it is about this game, or this circuit but it feels like I'm driving on Ice & the only way to maximise time is to do the ridiculous power sliding which is WAY easier for wheel users to do and control easily everytime.

I'm really starting to hate the fact that this game seems to have been a negative adjustment for controllers, it feels like I have to drive even more on a knife edge than I had to do in GTS with the throttle control.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how B/S rated lobbies are giving me such problems on this track, when last week Brands Hatch was a breeze where I could compete with way higher ranked people no problem. The only difference I noticed when watching replays was that pretty much all of them are using automatic gears instead of manual.

But there's no way I can go back to auto gears after using manual for so many years, it's just better in almost every way.

Anyone else struggling at this circuit, or have any idea what the hell is going on?
Once again, controller, no assists, manual gears & no powersliding except for turn 2 - 3 a tiny bit because that's all I can manage without spinning out

The pace is pretty crazy in the rooms I’ve been placed that I’m not really qualified to be in honestly. Racing against people with 90k+ DR when I’m (was) in the 30s is a bit silly. Tanked my DR so I’m back to A/B which is probably a fairer reflection of my abilities but I was at a steady A so sad to lose that.

How can you see people's DR in GT7? The max DR in GTS was 75K if I remember rightly.
I haven't seen any numbers on DR for this game though

 

[ColinNZ]

I'm really enjoying Deep Forest this week. The racing is hard but (mostly) fair and there is a huge range of competitive cars. I've managed to improve to a 1:28.3 (if I manage to hit a 27 I'll do a fist pump) in my WRX.

I ran two races earlier, and managed a 3rd and a 4th. I was .05s away from a podium on that second race. Good fun. 👍

 

[RayJee]

Same here to be honest, as much as I loathe to admit it i'm not currently capable of racing the likes of Super GT and Kie, yet get placed in the same lobbies, takes a long time to put together what I feel is a great lap to start around ~14th-16th.

Still not bought the meta RCZ, as I expect the upcoming patch to have some BoP tweaks for the worst offenders(Atenza), stubbornly sticking with the NSX, though its high speed instability is causing me more issues the faster I try to be, struggle to get it up Eau Rouge consistently.

Still, theres lots of fun to be had outside competitive racing, i've been enjoying the Tsukuba 525pp time attack over in the leagues sub forum, check it out if you fancy a change of pace.

I have a feeling PD might make that so each tracks will have a specific meta car so we have to try to buy different cars for different tracks - in other words, make us keep using more credits. As a non-competitive player, I don't really care if I place the last position in a race as long as I have fun with the car I want but for competitive players having to stick to a specific car for each races to get the best rap records something definitely needs to be done.

 

[Nick Parks]

How can you see people's DR in GT7? The max DR in GTS was 75K if I remember rightly.
I haven't seen any numbers on DR for this game though

I'm guessing if Niknak was saying he was up against people like Kie, that's where the 90k comes from - DR on GT Sport went up to 100k IIRC, these were Kie's last stats on GT Sport - (92k)

https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=1408851

Currently no way of checking DR rating on GT7 which is a real shame!

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Is anyone else struggling at Deep Forest Raceway this week?

For the record I'm on controller with no assists, it has stick drift because the Dualsense are poor quality, but thats more of a problem with difficult to drive cars like the GTR or Toyota F1 GT or whatever it is (not the supra).

There are certain tracks I always do extremely well at (mainly the classic F1 tracks, especially Monza, Suzuka, sometimes Spa) but I also do really well at Brands Hatch for the most part too.

Last week I could easily hold my own & snatch some wins off the A+/S dominated lobbies where there's at least 5-7 of them (on my Alt account that's already A/S)
This week on my main account, I'm only upto B/S so far but I'm struggling to even hang with the people in B/S lobbies! It's madness

I'm actually struggling to get below a 1:28.1 for qually time using the 911, I think I can eek out to a 1:27.8ish but that's it.

I've tried the RCZ, the 911, both Toyotas, the GTR & something else I forgot. Anyway all of them feel like I'm wrestling the car just to stay on the circuit coming out of corners except for the 911.

The 911 actually felt by far the most stable & like I could get a bit more aggressive with it...but it's top speed is awful & I get walked down in the straights.

I don't know what it is about this game, or this circuit but it feels like I'm driving on Ice & the only way to maximise time is to do the ridiculous power sliding which is WAY easier for wheel users to do and control easily everytime.

I'm really starting to hate the fact that this game seems to have been a negative adjustment for controllers, it feels like I have to drive even more on a knife edge than I had to do in GTS with the throttle control.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how B/S rated lobbies are giving me such problems on this track, when last week Brands Hatch was a breeze where I could compete with way higher ranked people no problem. The only difference I noticed when watching replays was that pretty much all of them are using automatic gears instead of manual.

But there's no way I can go back to auto gears after using manual for so many years, it's just better in almost every way.

Anyone else struggling at this circuit, or have any idea what the hell is going on?
Once again, controller, no assists, manual gears & no powersliding except for turn 2 - 3 a tiny bit because that's all I can manage without spinning out

I had the same problem with brands. At interlagos the week prior I got a 1.32.1 and was starting top 5 in top split rooms and at brands I was starting 12th. I think some tracks suit us better than others and the best players are quick everywhere. In Sport I did grind my best tracks and sit out ones I was weakest so my DR A was a bit of a false indication. B/A is probably where I belong so I’m trying to be a bit more pragmatic about it and not get hung up on my DR.
I agree about the silly power sliding though. When I look at the top replays they aren’t racing a sim, they’re playing a video game, if that makes sense. It’s completely ridiculous what they’re doing to be quick. Nothing ‘sim’ about it. Wheel users aren’t having an easy time of it though I can assure you!

How can you see people's DR in GT7? The max DR in GTS was 75K if I remember rightly.
I haven't seen any numbers on DR for this game though

I knew what certain others were in Sport and they definitely haven’t gone down. Kie was at 92k and would have definitely gone up since then. A few others too I know were on 95k and up and they always place top 3 so will have not gone down either. I know mine is in the cusp of 30k when I’m back in the B lobbies.

 

[xMAXIx79]

I had the same problem with brands. At interlagos the week prior I got a 1.32.1 and was starting top 5 in top split rooms and at brands I was starting 12th. I think some tracks suit us better than others and the best players are quick everywhere.
I agree about the silly power sliding though. When I look at the top replays they aren’t racing a sim, they’re playing a video game, if that makes sense. It’s completely ridiculous what they’re doing to be quick. Nothing ‘sim’ about it. Wheel users aren’t having an easy time of it though I can assure you!

I knew what certain others were in Sport and they definitely haven’t gone down. Kie was at 92k and would have definitely gone up since then. A few others too I know were on 95k and up and they always place top 3 so will have not gone down either. I know mine is in the cusp of 30k when I’m back in the B lobbies.

I finally want to ride in a lobby with you


But it's amazing how fast some drivers are in the B lobby... I honestly suspect there are some that dropped their points in GTS on purpose.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

I finally want to ride in a lobby with you

Our DR is getting closer mate. I’m sure we’ll see each other on track soon.

 

[MrMattAdz]

Anyone else struggling at this circuit, or have any idea what the hell is going on?
Once again, controller, no assists, manual gears & no powersliding except for turn 2 - 3 a tiny bit because that's all I can manage without spinning out

I think you may have answered your own question.

It's hard to be precise with throttle on controller, stop trying to be macho and just set TCS to 1. You'll still need to use throttle control but any mistakes you make won't hurt you as much as before. I know we all aspire to be able to drive without assists, but to me driving with TCS is no different to changing the setup of your car to make the handling more stable.

Just don't try countersteer assistance because that stuff is literally easy mode, it doesn't make the car faster but it does make it easier to be fast if that makes sense, the only place it felt slower was on tight corners and that was only with specific cars. I tried it for a week and ended up turning it off because I enjoy making setups for my cars and it felt like it was stopping me from getting the true experience of what my changes were doing.

 

[Mercia]

Anyone been in the dailies yet? Wondering what the increases in payouts are.

 

[Shuffle]

Is anyone else struggling at Deep Forest Raceway this week?

For the record I'm on controller with no assists, it has stick drift because the Dualsense are poor quality, but thats more of a problem with difficult to drive cars like the GTR or Toyota F1 GT or whatever it is (not the supra).

There are certain tracks I always do extremely well at (mainly the classic F1 tracks, especially Monza, Suzuka, sometimes Spa) but I also do really well at Brands Hatch for the most part too.

Last week I could easily hold my own & snatch some wins off the A+/S dominated lobbies where there's at least 5-7 of them (on my Alt account that's already A/S)
This week on my main account, I'm only upto B/S so far but I'm struggling to even hang with the people in B/S lobbies! It's madness

I'm actually struggling to get below a 1:28.1 for qually time using the 911, I think I can eek out to a 1:27.8ish but that's it.

I've tried the RCZ, the 911, both Toyotas, the GTR & something else I forgot. Anyway all of them feel like I'm wrestling the car just to stay on the circuit coming out of corners except for the 911.

The 911 actually felt by far the most stable & like I could get a bit more aggressive with it...but it's top speed is awful & I get walked down in the straights.

I don't know what it is about this game, or this circuit but it feels like I'm driving on Ice & the only way to maximise time is to do the ridiculous power sliding which is WAY easier for wheel users to do and control easily everytime.

I'm really starting to hate the fact that this game seems to have been a negative adjustment for controllers, it feels like I have to drive even more on a knife edge than I had to do in GTS with the throttle control.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how B/S rated lobbies are giving me such problems on this track, when last week Brands Hatch was a breeze where I could compete with way higher ranked people no problem. The only difference I noticed when watching replays was that pretty much all of them are using automatic gears instead of manual.

But there's no way I can go back to auto gears after using manual for so many years, it's just better in almost every way.

Anyone else struggling at this circuit, or have any idea what the hell is going on?
Once again, controller, no assists, manual gears & no powersliding except for turn 2 - 3 a tiny bit because that's all I can manage without spinning out

I'm on a controller as well, think I've got a 27.1xx at the moment in the McLaren, a 26 is there but I just can't string it together at the moment. I'd recommend trying the McLaren and Subaru, they both seem pretty solid at this track, the McLaren is pretty much on rails. The Subaru less so but I think it'd be quicker if I could do a decent lap in it.

Problem I've had in the couple of races I've done is that there's always 2-3 drivers who are high 25's-low 26's, which is very close to Top 10 stars level.

I tend to struggle more with understeer on GT7 than oversteer, so I really struggled last week at Dragon Trail in the Gr.4's, this week seems better for me in terms of I don't feel that slow, I'm just in lobbies that I've got no hope of winning. I love driving this track too, find it really rewarding.

 

[Mercia]

5,666 for the Deep Forest Daily finishing 10th in DR B

Doesn't seem any different, certainly not a major increase, perhaps for the winner / top 3 places?

 

[fmq75]

I’m exactly the same! I’ve started to think that maybe other folk have some “option” ticked in their set-up that I don’t.

In Race C, the RCZ has my worse lap time. How on earth it‘s the Meta is beyond me.

I’m at the point that maybe I have to totally forget what I learned in GTS and start again. Not sure if thats possible. Only time will tell I guess. ❔

I literally just started Sim(cades) with GT7 now (PS5 is my first ps since ps2 and my last GT was the allmighty pt3,i don’t count racing FM6 solo only) and managed to get up to „B„ couple of days ago (SR was“S“ after 3-4 races and never worse than this) and it‘s tough for me
But my only racing goal for now is to keep the B rating and not lose my starting position or in best case win some positions so climb up the ladder slooowly.Racing only deep forest this week and i like the intensitiy of this course,hard to overtake but there are always people doing mistakes etc.Although obviously not as much as in class C (and not many people leaving a race anymore).

Question about SR rating“marker“ on the HUD.In this guide he write you always see a green arrow after each sector of clean racing,telling you gain some SR points.But i don‘t have this marker and my lap time look a little different than on his picture.Is it because of cockpit view (i use bumper cam) or even a GTS screenshot?

How to Increase Sport Mode Ratings in Gran Turismo 7

Sport Mode makes its return in Gran Turismo 7 from Gran Turismo Sport as the sort of ranked matchmaking of the game. In Sport Mode, you are thrown in with

diamondlobby.com

 

[MrMattAdz]

Question about SR rating“marker“ on the HUD.In this guide he write you always see a green arrow after each sector of clean racing,telling you gain some SR points.But i don‘t have this marker and my lap time a little different than on his picture.Is it because of cockpit view (i use bumper cam) or even a GTS screenshot?

How to Increase Sport Mode Ratings in Gran Turismo 7

Sport Mode makes its return in Gran Turismo 7 from Gran Turismo Sport as the sort of ranked matchmaking of the game. In Sport Mode, you are thrown in with

diamondlobby.com

I don't think the SR indicators are in GT7, they were there in GTS.

 

[Mercia]

Question about SR rating“marker“ on the HUD.In this guide he write you always see a green arrow after each sector of clean racing,telling you gain some SR points.But i don‘t have this marker and my lap time look a little different than on his picture.Is it because of cockpit view (i use bumper cam) or even a GTS screenshot?

How to Increase Sport Mode Ratings in Gran Turismo 7

Sport Mode makes its return in Gran Turismo 7 from Gran Turismo Sport as the sort of ranked matchmaking of the game. In Sport Mode, you are thrown in with

diamondlobby.com

I don't think the SR indicators are in GT7, they were there in GTS.

They aren't but the mentioned screenshot is from State of Play, so a previous version of GT7 likely, which means it's possible we may get them back.

 

[fmq75]

I don't think the SR indicators are in GT7, they were there in GTS.

Thanks.That‘s what i thought.But he published pictures even with a GT7“watermark“and claims hes talking about GT7.Well…

edit: @Mercia ah,thanks for clearing this up 👍 So it wasn‘t his fault…

 

[Redneckchef]

@HornetX1 if you are struggling with Deep Forest I would look at 2 things:
1) The track. There are a lot of very slight elevation changes through that middle sector that are pretty much at all the points you feel like you should be on the throttle. Check how the car is balanced through there.
2) Bogey track. We all have them, even bogey combos. Some times there seems to be something you just can't make work. For me it is DT Gardens. I don't care what the combo is, I can't find my way around that track to save my life. The best race I ever had there I was coasting and watching others crash off. And I still only finished where I started.

Try the Circuit Experience and see how it feels. Maybe there is something in the demos or lapping there to show you exactly where and how you are losing time.

 

[keiweux]

I cant tell you how bad my experience in Dailies for last week is. Servers are in really bad state, i dont know why, but the game is hard to play. My PS5 is connected via UTP cabel over Mikrotik router, running on fiber 500/500, living in Prague and i get this. Other players are basically skating on road, appears from nowhere right in front of you, my car feels unresponsive and weird, update 1.1 didnt fix anything at all.. Anyone experience these issues?

 

[fmq75]

Living in Berlin/ger and have a 500m connection (PS5 via lan) and i never get a“green“ connection.Sometimes it even drops to red but fortunately i rarely see other cars glitching nor does my car feel weird.

small GT world,i did race some of the players in this lobby,i think ive seen you before as well (CEIsar is my ID).

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I cant tell you how bad my experience in Dailies for last week is. Servers are in really bad state, i dont know why, but the game is hard to play. My PS5 is connected via UTP cabel over Mikrotik router, running on fiber 500/500, living in Prague and i get this. Other players are basically skating on road, appears from nowhere right in front of you, my car feels unresponsive and weird, update 1.1 didnt fix anything at all.. Anyone experience these issues?

I have the same thing in Ontario, Canada. Wired cable internet, used to get 5 bars on GT Sport, now exactly what you have there in GT7. The weird thing is, when I switch to ps4 pro, GT7 connects to a different server and I get 5 bars again. Problem with ps4 pro is, bad framerate on race C in 4K, fine when setting output to 1080p, yet it occasionally glitches out of Stavelot causing me to lose 0.4 sec there or the game crashes with an unexpected error.

GT7 sport mode is just bad.

 

[inkyy]

Still upset at the penalty system, driver in front of me spun and I tried to avoid him but still made contact. Received a 3 sec penalty

 

[keiweux]

I think you may have answered your own question.

It's hard to be precise with throttle on controller, stop trying to be macho and just set TCS to 1. You'll still need to use throttle control but any mistakes you make won't hurt you as much as before. I know we all aspire to be able to drive without assists, but to me driving with TCS is no different to changing the setup of your car to make the handling more stable.

Just don't try countersteer assistance because that stuff is literally easy mode, it doesn't make the car faster but it does make it easier to be fast if that makes sense, the only place it felt slower was on tight corners and that was only with specific cars. I tried it for a week and ended up turning it off because I enjoy making setups for my cars and it felt like it was stopping me from getting the true experience of what my changes were doing.

Well, its not about beeing macho. TC1 is really making car slower in every corner, you can see what TCS is doing on your throttle. You you can be very precise on controller, if you set your throttle to "weak" on adaptive trigger. On Brands Hutch, I was driving Huracan, Nismo, 650S, F-Type on TC0 without any issues, on Deep Forest its basically imposible with any Gr.3 car i have, which is really weird to me. And yes with TC1 im really slow, and driving is less fun.. Its not macho thing. .)

It just feels like the tarmac there is different, in a weird way, downhill chicane to left after tunnel is something special.

 

[MrMattAdz]

Well, its not about beeing macho. TC1 is really making car slower in every corner, you can see what TCS is doing on your throttle. You you can be very precise on controller, if you set your throttle to "weak" on adaptive trigger. On Brands Hutch, I was driving Huracan, Nismo, 650S, F-Type on TC0 without any issues, on Deep Forest its basically imposible with any Gr.3 car i have, which is really weird to me. And yes with TC1 im really slow, and driving is less fun.. Its not macho thing. .)

Haha if you think you have no problems being precise with throttle control then why are you having problems on Deep Forest? Deep Forest and Brands Hatch are different tracks, quite different in style, I'm not surprised that you find Deep Forest harder because it is simply just a more demanding track when it comes to throttle control.

If you keep having issues with applying too much throttle for the traction you have available then it means you need to apply less throttle. If you need help from TCS to do that then that's really not a big deal. Better yet, you can change TCS during the race so simply turn it on/off on each corner that you are/aren't having issues with. I tend to turn it off for the first corner because you get too bogged down if it activates, but I tend to leave it on elsewhere.

 

[keiweux]

Haha if you think you have no problems being precise with throttle control then why are you having problems on Deep Forest? Deep Forest and Brands Hatch are different tracks, quite different in style, I'm not surprised that you find Deep Forest harder because it is simply just a more demanding track when it comes to throttle control.

If you keep having issues with applying too much throttle for the traction you have available then it means you need to apply less throttle. If you need help from TCS to do that then that's really not a big deal. Better yet, you can change TCS during the race so simply turn it on/off on each corner that you are/aren't having issues with. I tend to turn it off for the first corner because you get too bogged down if it activates, but I tend to leave it on elsewhere.

I dont know man, its just slippery there as hell!

 

[benjoi84]

The only difference I noticed when watching replays was that pretty much all of them are using automatic gears instead of manual.

I'm pretty sure this is a bug. I noticed it in the last few months of playing GTS, too.

There's no way that many drivers are using AT

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I did one race C to check if the payouts have changed, I guess slightly.

I finished 5th with a no stop in the Lexus from last. Only one pit stopper passed when I dozed off due to the low speed and effort and slipped on the kerb in the fast left hander in the middle. I can do 2:25 2:26 laps with short shifting just before the bar shows, higher gears through corners, drafting other cars for the first half of the race and toggling between FM2 and FM3. Kinda boring. Yet with the Lexus I can only do 2:22 2:23 laps flat out, so no stop is still faster with the 30 sec pit stop.

Anyway 5th place is now 25K. Compare that to 550K for 8 laps on Sarthe (new event) which is about half an hour as well.

The server is still bad, max 3 yellow on ps5, 1 bar and 2 bar players in the race. And the field is mostly RCZ and Stealth vision cars. Not much fun, back to single player. PD also added 22 million more in cars to purchase to the legend dealership.

 

[inkyy]

The server is still bad, max 3 yellow on ps5, 1 bar and 2 bar players in the race. And the field is mostly RCZ and Stealth vision cars. Not much fun, back to single player. PD also added 22 million more in cars to purchase to the legend dealership.

Ive noticed my connection was poor last night. So thats chalked up to server issues? Im on ethernet connection, never really noticed a difference in my driving or other players

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Ive noticed my connection was poor last night. So thats chalked up to server issues? Im on ethernet connection, never really noticed a difference in my driving or other players

I'm as well, but get stuff like this

 

[Scotchboy]

I'm as well, but get stuff like this

That's how I got 6 seconds in the karting last week. A competitor on a red connection teleporting all over the track was randomly appearing directly in front and then flying off into the distance. It's a super annoying way to get penalties.

 

[Famine]

I cant tell you how bad my experience in Dailies for last week is. Servers are in really bad state, i dont know why, but the game is hard to play. My PS5 is connected via UTP cabel over Mikrotik router, running on fiber 500/500, living in Prague and i get this. Other players are basically skating on road, appears from nowhere right in front of you, my car feels unresponsive and weird, update 1.1 didnt fix anything at all.. Anyone experience these issues?

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Have you gone through the "connection issues" pinned thread? Bandwidth is no guarantee of a decent network environment.

GT7 has been patchy since it launched, but it had improved last I checked.