GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Dep Fishtail]

First Monday B race success in quite some time and really best I’ve ever had.
Thanks for running laps yesterday ILLEAGLE_34!

Did about 20 minutes of QT and set a 2:05.3 so I jumped in to see how the races were going.
First race I’m on pole just to test the nerves a little. Gapped second out of t1 and never really had to do much except run clean laps and no bobbles. It worked out and finished p1.

Second race started p2 and finished uneventful p2 never catching p1 but never getting caught either.

Race 3 I started p12 back in the chicane with @NevilleNobody starting a few places ahead of me. Got a little crowded at times but I was fortunate to have clean driving experience for the entire race. I believe it was lap 2 when he was involved in an incident and I moved up a few additional places. Finished p8 and it was a good result for me based on where I started.

Had to go and do race 4 and @NevilleNobody was on pole and I was p4. I so wanted to send a don’t …k it up in chat because that’s how I felt earlier but didn’t want to jinx. 😜

Race went well for my final of the evening with a p3 finish and @NevilleNobody took the Victory uncontested. Glad I didn’t message you in chat this time! Congrats.

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[Egghaus88]

I uploaded a clip of one of my favourite battles from Race C last week, hope you all enjoy it.

 

[Dep Fishtail]

Also want to give a shout out to @KosmoKazi for the lucky GTP livery I picked up in shared content tonight right after buying the GTR!
Hope I can represent it well through the week.

 

[TheNormsk]

I switched to my UK account and did race B over there. Started P6 and the first lap was pretty rough in front of me. It was a mixed C/C to D/D race and I was the only D/S, driver in the lobby. I think there was some acrimony between the drivers in front of me, but I benefited from it when they took themselves out from crashing and penalties. I worked my way up to P2, but ultimately couldn’t hold it against the Mercedes on the last lap and finished P3. Still a good result, even if it was in the low ranks.

Perhaps I’m ready to lose my DR on my US account now. At this rate, GB is going to do better than my main account…

 

[NevilleNobody]

My goodness Gr.2 cars and soft tires have grip for days. I currently at a 2:05.5XX and I might be able to sneak into a very high 2:04 one I clean my lines up some more. It's been a while since I've run the Gr.2 cars at a track I like. Looking forward to some racing this week.

agreed. It is a bit of an odd driving experience though, you really need to flog it, drive at anythingnless than ten 10ths and you drop a couple of seconds a lap, its crazy.

Thanks for running laps yesterday ILLEAGLE_34!

Race 3 I started p12 back in the chicane with @NevilleNobody starting a few places ahead of me. Got a little crowded at times but I was fortunate to have clean driving experience for the entire race. I believe it was lap 2 when he was involved in an incident and I moved up a few additional places. Finished p8 and it was a good result for me based on where I started.

Had to go and do race 4 and @NevilleNobody was on pole and I was p4. I so wanted to send a don’t …k it up in chat because that’s how I felt earlier but didn’t want to jinx. 😜

Race went well for my final of the evening with a p3 finish and @NevilleNobody took the Victory uncontested. Glad I didn’t message you in chat this time! CongratsCongrats.

Lol I was wondering who you were. Earlier in the night I did one race and someone accidently pumted me from 4th. Then in the first race we did, I survived a lot of bash and barge but worked my way up to 5th, I was doing really well then I dropped it onto a kerb and blaaaaaaah second last.

Final race was, as you said, flag to flag for a bit of a relaxed win.

Its very, very bumpy out there, lots of contact and the heavier fuel load and dirty air is really catching people out.

I managed a 2.04.9, but I have a 2.04.5 somewhere. Pouhon is so tough to Get right, so tough.

 

[TheNormsk]

My prediction about losing DR on the main account was correct. Q7 but ended P12. I did have some distraction two cars ahead of me! This was making me laugh my head off and it is very hard to drive like that!

I know this was a glitchy connection, but you have to admit, the way it played out on track was incredible! You have to watch through to the ending. They go full Delorean at 88mph...

 

[Hodd10]

You know what helps? I'm chasing @Hodd10's ghost of 2:05.9 and that helps a lot. I believe I can get to the 2:06.3 range. After that I'm not sure I'll have to the skill to proceed much further.

Glad it helps. I know its not the fastest time out there but I find if you have a selection of ghosts that are increasingly faster that what you can do then it makes it easier. For me there is no need to be chasing say Nebuc's time right now but if there is say a 2.05.500 then it will help me get there. If and when i get to that time consistantly then then I'd move on to a 2.04.500.

 

[RacinLei]

Strange bug today daily b.
The tc assist turn on by itself and i couldnt accelerate out of the corners. I never run drive assist and i cant turn it on because i race no HUD. Thats wierd….
Fuu that cost me my rating, from full a tu near b and my s rank is gone 🤬

 

[Fezzik]

what are people choosing for tyre strats on C?

I started on the mediums from midpack, wanted to be able to get some space if I survived the first laps. Lasted to lap 11 though I probably should've come in a lap earlier. Going hards first is probably quicker in isolation, but I find it hard to make clean passes there so would rather have track position.

The Z4 is great fun there and very competitive but almost as bad as the BRZ off the rolling start - I was almost passed by a Merc through the first S bend. There was a bit of door banging and I think they came off much worse - to me it doesn't seem like a smart overtaking spot.

 

[AmateurDriver]

what are people choosing for tyre strats on C?

I start the race on hards if I start somewhere in the back or in the middle (wich is usually the case). Around lap 5 or 6 I enter the pit to switch to the mediums. When i start somewhere in the front, i do the opposite. Start on mediums, pit around lap 8 or 9. This strategy worked out best for me.

 

[permaculture]

Strange bug today daily b.
The tc assist turn on by itself

sorry this happened…. Been this way since Gran turismo sport. if you enter a race and don’t choose “qualify”, you will often start the race at TCS 3. if you join too late to do that, you can run a warm up lap you can (possibly?) offset this.

unfortunately they cannot be bothered to fix this or explain to players how to avoid triggering it. I check TCS before the countdown every race now, having been burned too many times by this

 

[hboandslow]

The middle section of the Race C track is just hilarious, sheer extended chaos throughout that whole sector in my races so far. Race length is great though, probably the best race selection we've had in weeks for me at least.

Agree with the comments regarding GR2, going from driving GR3 to those feels so so weird - there is so much grip it lures you into thinking you're playing an arcade game, then you over-brake and also end up braking mid-corner because you don't understand where the grip is coming from and don't trust the car - enjoyable, just such a big difference.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Just in case anyone is running the CLK-LM in Race B and wishes it was a Porsche 911 GT1, I made this and shared it last night...

 

[RacinLei]

sorry this happened…. Been this way since Gran turismo sport. if you enter a race and don’t choose “qualify”, you will often start the race at TCS 3. if you join too late to do that, you can run a warm up lap you can (possibly?) offset this.

unfortunately they cannot be bothered to fix this or explain to players how to avoid triggering it. I check TCS before the countdown every race now, having been burned too many times by this

Thanks for the info, thats the First time that happen to me. Really frustrating. Lost all my progress 🤬

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I find that hitting Pause and letting the AI get the car back on the road is way safer

This is awesome advice - thanks! Hopefully it'll be a long time before I have to try it out. 😂

The tc assist turn on by itself

To expand on to what @permaculture said: If you enter a race and don't do any Q laps, the game has a bug where it sets TCS to 3. But if, while you're waiting for the race to start, you click the "Qualifying Time Trial" button, then it won't change your TCS. You don't actually have to do a Q lap - just enter the Q time trial.

If you didn't have time for that, while you're in the lobby waiting that 30 seconds for the race to start, if you start a warmup lap, that fixes the bug also.

For me, whenever I start a race, while the car is still auto-driving, I check my TCS just in case. That way I never have to worry about whether I remembered to start a Q beforehand.

 

[RacinLei]

This is awesome advice - thanks! Hopefully it'll be a long time before I have to try it out. 😂

To expand on to what @permaculture said: If you enter a race and don't do any Q laps, the game has a bug where it sets TCS to 3. But if, while you're waiting for the race to start, you click the "Qualifying Time Trial" button, then it won't change your TCS. You don't actually have to do a Q lap - just enter the Q time trial.

If you didn't have time for that, while you're in the lobby waiting that 30 seconds for the race to start, if you start a warmup lap, that fixes the bug also.

For me, whenever I start a race, while the car is still auto-driving, I check my TCS just in case. That way I never have to worry about whether I remembered to start a Q beforehand.

Thanks for the info
Strange, i was in qualy mode before it starts.
I race no HUD i cant check it wile racing.
Damnit yesterday was all good. First 2 races today was also good. It started after i enter the lobby with 7 sec left to enter, and i got a dile in bar below the grid, since then it happen.

 

[Rossell2]

This is awesome advice - thanks! Hopefully it'll be a long time before I have to try it out. 😂

To expand on to what @permaculture said: If you enter a race and don't do any Q laps, the game has a bug where it sets TCS to 3. But if, while you're waiting for the race to start, you click the "Qualifying Time Trial" button, then it won't change your TCS. You don't actually have to do a Q lap - just enter the Q time trial.

If you didn't have time for that, while you're in the lobby waiting that 30 seconds for the race to start, if you start a warmup lap, that fixes the bug also.

For me, whenever I start a race, while the car is still auto-driving, I check my TCS just in case. That way I never have to worry about whether I remembered to start a Q beforehand.

Thank you and thank you again, I've been wondering why this has been happening.

 

[RacinLei]

What a strange Dr/Sr system. First i lost all and after 2 races i went to DR A+(first time ever 🫣) and SR S. What strange game 🤪

 

[Famine]

What a strange Dr/Sr system. First i lost all and after 2 races i went to DR A+(first time ever 🫣) and SR S. What strange game 🤪

Could you explain... any of that? The DR/SR system is pretty simple, but I've honestly got no idea what you're saying here.

 

[RacinLei]

Could you explain... any of that? The DR/SR system is pretty simple, but I've honestly got no idea what you're saying here.

Have you read what happen before? I lost my near full dr A bar and s rank within 2 races because of the tc bug. Now i did 2 races and got A+S 🤔

 

[Famine]

Have you read what happen before?

Yes, but it was no more clear then either.

I lost my near full dr A bar and s rank within 2 races because of the tc bug. Now i did 2 races and got A+S 🤔

Yeah, assuming what you've written there is what I think you've written (and again, not entirely clear) you're reading something incorrectly, because that isn't a thing that happens. As in literally no part of it.

Never mind leaping up from zero to A+ in two races, how did you "lose" your entire progress through DR A in just two races? You must have finished 700th in a 16-car race. Twice. Or dropped to SR C, but that wouldn't be due to traction control being on...

What happened in those races for you to lose all that progress?

 

[RacinLei]

Yes, but it was no more clear then either.

Yeah, assuming what you've written there is what I think you've written (and again, not entirely clear) you're reading something incorrectly, because that isn't a thing that happens. As in literally no part of it.

Never mind leaping up from zero to A+ in two races, how did you "lose" your entire progress through DR A in just two races? You must have finished 700th in a 16-car race. Twice. Or dropped to SR C, but that wouldn't be due to traction control being on...

What happened in those races for you to lose all that progress?

Started 1st and got overtaken by 6 racers during 1st lap because i wasnt able to get quick enough out of the corner. Then tryed again and lost only 1 place. Then i went from dr near full a to a tiny little white bar and lost my s rank. After i watched the replay i saw the tc turned on.
Now i did was @GrumpyOldMan wrote.
I got back on track won 1 race from pole and next race i started second and finnished second a went to A+S.

 

[Bullwinkle]

My face when I can run Eau Rouge and Raidillon without lifting the throttle...

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My goodness Gr.2 cars and soft tires have grip for days. I currently at a 2:05.5XX and I might be able to sneak into a very high 2:04 one I clean my lines up some more. It's been a while since I've run the Gr.2 cars at a track I like. Looking forward to some racing this week.

So you’re saying you drove so fast your hair flew off? Dang!

For what it’s worth, I learned something new with the Gr2 race at Maggiore a couple weeks ago. I think it was called “packing” the downforce, which means actually accelerating when you’re oversteering, which is counterintuitive, but it helps create more downforce. It blew my mind. It may be news to everyone else, but thanks again to @KosmoKazi for teaching me that bit.

My prediction about losing DR on the main account was correct. Q7 but ended P12. I did have some distraction two cars ahead of me! This was making me laugh my head off and it is very hard to drive like that!

I know this was a glitchy connection, but you have to admit, the way it played out on track was incredible! You have to watch through to the ending. They go full Delorean at 88mph...

That is the craziest video I’ve seen yet! I laughed so hard I couldn’t breathe. And that was only lap 1!!!! I remember a Sardegna road race a few months ago in Gr3 cars, and there was someone with a connection that was so bad he looked like a missile at one point on the back straight, ricocheting off the rails and exploding into the wall before the last hairpin! It startled me so much I hit the wall and spun out, and I wasn’t the only one.

I wonder how that happens? I understand the net code issue, but why does the game interpret a bad signal as the car smashing sideways into walls and then teleporting with a flaming tire trail?!

I started on the mediums from midpack, wanted to be able to get some space if I survived the first laps. Lasted to lap 11 though I probably should've come in a lap earlier. Going hards first is probably quicker in isolation, but I find it hard to make clean passes there so would rather have track position.

The Z4 is great fun there and very competitive but almost as bad as the BRZ off the rolling start - I was almost passed by a Merc through the first S bend. There was a bit of door banging and I think they came off much worse - to me it doesn't seem like a smart overtaking spot.

I keep catching up with people on that uphill S and can’t figure out what to do there. I don’t want to go two wide, but I also don’t want to lose my momentum. I’ve been lifting off and drafting through that section, but it makes stopping for the hairpin really hard! This is the kind of stuff I still need to learn, but it’s great fun.

I start the race on hards if I start somewhere in the back or in the middle (wich is usually the case). Around lap 5 or 6 I enter the pit to switch to the mediums. When i start somewhere in the front, i do the opposite. Start on mediums, pit around lap 8 or 9. This strategy worked out best for me.

I found I could do 12 laps on mediums pretty easily, but they get a little dicey on lap 10. I’ve been starting in mediums just to see how long I can make them last, but I may start experimenting with both of your strategies. Thanks for the suggestions, @AmateurDriver and @Fezzik

sorry this happened…. Been this way since Gran turismo sport. if you enter a race and don’t choose “qualify”, you will often start the race at TCS 3. if you join too late to do that, you can run a warm up lap you can (possibly?) offset this.

unfortunately they cannot be bothered to fix this or explain to players how to avoid triggering it. I check TCS before the countdown every race now, having been burned too many times by this

I didn’t realize this was still happening! Now I wonder how many times I’ve been stuck with TC3 and didn’t realize it! It might explain a few things that I’ve been experiencing.

@RacinLei (and @Famine ) did your SR drop so low that your DR got reset until you raised your SR again?

 

[Famine]

Started 1st and got overtaken by 6 racers during 1st lap because i wasnt able to get quick enough out of the corner. Then tryed again and lost only 1 place. Then i went from dr near full a to a tiny little white bar

Finishing 7th and 2nd won't lose you any DR at all in a 16-car race. It will, in fact, gain you DR.

and lost my s rank

Which didn't happen because of having Traction Control turned on. You lose SR by contact with other cars, track furniture, and going off-track.

What I suspect has happened here is that you gained enough DR in the races to go up to A+ but because you had a couple of not very clean races and dropped to SR A, you had enough points but couldn't rank up because SR rank limits DR rank; with SR A you cannot advance past DR A.

The game then displayed your progress bar as if you were at DR A+ (going from 99% at DR A to 2% at DR A+) while you were still at DR A because of being at SR A - which is a known issue. As soon as you ranked back up to SR S, you then advanced to DR A+.


So you didn't actually lose anything, except getting bumped down to SR A from two contact-heavy races that you're not being very open about for some reason.

 

[RacinLei]

@Famine
Yeah it cause contact throug corners because i wasnt quick enough but not because of me, some squeezed through and lean on havy. I do my best to do clean races but i guess you know by urself how rough it gets with some people.
Maybe thats a reason for the hard drop.

@Bullwinkle
I have not really a clue why that happens.
But honestly i take it. I didnt race that much dailys.

Stats are not to bad for under 100 dailys 😃

 

[Fezzik]

I keep catching up with people on that uphill S and can’t figure out what to do there. I don’t want to go two wide, but I also don’t want to lose my momentum. I’ve been lifting off and drafting through that section, but it makes stopping for the hairpin really hard! This is the kind of stuff I still need to learn, but it’s great fun.

I lift a little and try to make the move at the hairpin. Very hard (at my level) to go side-by-side through there as people have very different lines and brake points in that section, particularly some of the FRs that understeer wide. End up getting pushed into the wall if I try to pull alongside on the right (to get inside for the hairpin).

 

[Famine]

contact ... not because of me

That doesn't matter. SR is not a measure of whether you're at fault, but of contacts and off-track excursions.


So all that's happened here is the well-known DR meter display bug, showing your progress as if you're at DR A+ (because you've passed the score threshold) while your SR A rating is limiting your DR to DR A. You didn't lose your progress or suddenly regain it in four races, it was there all along but being displayed incorrectly due to the aforementioned display issue.

 

[Bazza2112]

Tried a few other cars, with the Peugeot I got my best lap, actually not to far behind @Leon Kowalski but I am sure he will improve his time further, and I won't. (edit: and he did!!) And got close to that time with the Honda, best app. 1.14.7 with the NSX.
But I am not consistent with these, unlike with the Audi. But for fun I decided to use both and do some more races. Well, won both, but all in all I was slower with them then with the Audi earlier today. The Honda race I only won because the Audi's in 2nd and 3rd spent all their time fighting and ramming eachother allowing me to get away. Thanks guys!

So four races, three wins. That it was i call a good day, never yet had such good results!! And finally got to drive my RedBull design in a race. Think i earned my beer now....

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Welcome here! It was nice sharing the track with you earlier today. and congrats on those good results!

Thanks man. The feeling is mutual. You're a good, clean driver MCL. Hopefully see you out there again soon.

 

[RacinLei]

That doesn't matter. SR is not a measure of whether you're at fault, but of contacts and off-track excursions.


So all that's happened here is the well-known DR meter display bug, showing your progress as if you're at DR A+ (because you've passed the score threshold) while your SR A rating is limiting your DR to DR A. You didn't lose your progress or suddenly regain it in four races, it was there all along but being displayed incorrectly due to the aforementioned display issue.

You see, well know for havy daily racer. I didnt know about that bug. Thanks for the info 👍🏻

 

[OJBrit]

So I just did some laps to QT on each race just to get on the board while my coffee was brewing this morning and boy are my times slow... I might race A but only because it is non DR.

I'm not very good at Spa and knew I would be off pace but man am I slow! Now of course @Nebuc72 is getting close to being an alien but still. I'd be lucky to improve by 2-3 seconds. How'd you find 9!!!
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Race C I particularly hate. I don't like the reverse course and last time we were there it was a slaughter fest unless you were on pole. I might avoid that.

I'm the same wondering how I can be a huge amount of seconds off. Just where I am I guess.

I feel this is the asnwer, at least for me, I do know the theory, but still I completely underuse the aero / don't trust myself relying on the aero.
It's a quite subtle habit very difficult to remove, and applyes also to orher class (Gr1, F1-like)

This pretty much sums it up. I also seem to constantly suffer loads of understeer so if I go into the corner the same I am 100% running wide and into a wall or a spin off the grass.

My wife is like that too. And she cheat in discussions, she thinks out her arguments in advance....
There's no winning

I just have to use a fancy word and she is confused. Argument over.

Here’s some motivation to get that 2:06 - you don’t want to be outqualified by someone as slow as me.

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I'll be on tonight so thank you for something to aim at.