GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I’ve been doing laps all day in various cars. I switched to the Jag a few minutes ago and set my fastest time on the third lap. I think I’m set with my car!

It’s funny because I have no problem in the hairpin with this particular car!
That hairpin is such a bugger. Can only do it in the Merc at the moment, have no idea how folks are doing it in the Ford GT. Seems impossible. I'm in the mid 26s and have yet to race because I feel like I can't handle that turn consistently.
 
I'll be on tonight so thank you for something to aim at.
For reference, that's with the 2016 Nismo GTR - am going to try out the CLK for a comparison.

Drove the 2016 Lexus, actually felt nicer but at least a second slower. The NSX is always a bit too twitchy for me so didn't even go near that one. The fact that I haven't seen anyone use or even mention the F1 is probably a bad sign for it.
 
I found I could do 12 laps on mediums pretty easily, but they get a little dicey on lap 10. I’ve been starting in mediums just to see how long I can make them last, but I may start experimenting with both of your strategies. Thanks for the suggestions, @AmateurDriver and @Fezzik
You're more then welcome. Yesterday I started a race on hards and pitted on lap 4, but I was struggling on the last lap. Had no grip after that moment at all. Lost P2 on the last turn on the last lap because of that.
 
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That is the craziest video I’ve seen yet! I laughed so hard I couldn’t breathe. And that was only lap 1!!!! I remember a Sardegna road race a few months ago in Gr3 cars, and there was someone with a connection that was so bad he looked like a missile at one point on the back straight, ricocheting off the rails and exploding into the wall before the last hairpin! It startled me so much I hit the wall and spun out, and I wasn’t the only one.

I wonder how that happens? I understand the net code issue, but why does the game interpret a bad signal as the car smashing sideways into walls and then teleporting with a flaming tire trail?!
Impressive wasn't it. Very hard to race though when laughing!
I'm the same wondering how I can be a huge amount of seconds off. Just where I am I guess.

This pretty much sums it up. I also seem to constantly suffer loads of understeer so if I go into the corner the same I am 100% running wide and into a wall or a spin off the grass.
I worked my way up to the 2:06.917 territory but typically QT around 2:07.x to 2:08.x. Still not 100% on how I got the 2:06.9 though I found there are several spots where huge amount of time can be gained or lost.

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Eau Rouge is pretty straight forward and you need to be flat out going up it. You should be leaving T4 at around 162mph into the straight. Turn 9 is also critical. You need to be tight through Bruxelles and then not brake into T9. I usually lift though otherwise I tend to go off if I don't get the turn-in perfect. I think my 2:06.x time I did not even lift so it's possible but you have to be darn on perfect. T10 is also a do you/do you not lift turn? Again, I've done it without lifting but usually, I momentarily lift just to get turn in and then on the gas again. Get it right and you exiting T11 at around 140+ mph. Get it wrong and you can be down to 110... The next big one for me, is turn 14, Campus. It's key to get good exit speed here to carry through into T15. That then gives you the faster running into the flat-out section through 16 and 17. the chicane I'm not very good at. I can vary +/- 0.3 s just going through there depending on if I get the entry right or not.
For reference, that's with the 2016 Nismo GTR - am going to try out the CLK for a comparison.

Drove the 2016 Lexus, actually felt nicer but at least a second slower. The NSX is always a bit too twitchy for me so didn't even go near that one. The fact that I haven't seen anyone use or even mention the F1 is probably a bad sign for it.
I tried the F1. It was about 3 seconds slower than what I could do with the Nismo.
 
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It seemed to have solved itself.. Next time I turned on the game, i set to 9/9 and the steering wobble stopped.

Yeah starting to feel the limitations of the G29 but I will admit I'm much happier than just the controller 🤣 Next investment will be the Fanatec GT7 wheel/ pedal set but first I need to spend money on my real car as need to replace the valve guides... All 24 of them 😅💶💶
 
It seemed to have solved itself.. Next time I turned on the game, i set to 9/9 and the steering wobble stopped.

Yeah starting to feel the limitations of the G29 but I will admit I'm much happier than just the controller 🤣 Next investment will be the Fanatec GT7 wheel/ pedal set but first I need to spend money on my real car as need to replace the valve guides... All 24 of them 😅💶💶
Isn't 9/9 really high for the G29? There's no way that wheel can output that level of information accurately so surely you're just getting pure clipping and nothing else?
 
It seemed to have solved itself.. Next time I turned on the game, i set to 9/9 and the steering wobble stopped.

Yeah starting to feel the limitations of the G29 but I will admit I'm much happier than just the controller 🤣 Next investment will be the Fanatec GT7 wheel/ pedal set but first I need to spend money on my real car as need to replace the valve guides... All 24 of them 😅💶💶
Isn't 9/9 really high for the G29? There's no way that wheel can output that level of information accurately so surely you're just getting pure clipping and nothing else?
G29 settings seem to be like US politics. Pick a side and argue about it...

For what it is worth, I found for my G29 to have:
Controller sensitivity: 5 (this is critical for a more natural feel)
Force feedback strength: 2
Force feedback sensitivity: 2

With higher settings I was getting to much of a transition between force/dead spot/force when sweeping from left to right/right to left through the center making high powered cars uncontrollable. Reducing the settings make the wheel much lighter in feeling but ultimately more controllable.
 
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I worked my way up to the 2:06.917 territory but typically QT around 2:07.x to 2:08.x. Still not 100% on how I got the 2:06.9 though I found there are several spots where huge amount of time can be gained or lost.

Spa-Map.png
Where did you get this map? It's awesome!
 
Impressive wasn't it. Very hard to race though when laughing!

I worked my way up to the 2:06.917 territory but typically QT around 2:07.x to 2:08.x. Still not 100% on how I got the 2:06.9 though I found there are several spots where huge amount of time can be gained or lost.

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Eau Rouge is pretty straight forward and you need to be flat out going up it. You should be leaving T4 at around 162mph into the straight. Turn 9 is also critical. You need to be tight through Bruxelles and then not brake into T9. I usually lift though otherwise I tend to go off if I don't get the turn-in perfect. I think my 2:06.x time I did not even lift so it's possible but you have to be darn on perfect. T10 is also a do you/do you not lift turn? Again, I've done it without lifting but usually, I momentarily lift just to get turn in and then on the gas again. Get it right and you exiting T11 at around 140+ mph. Get it wrong and you can be down to 110... The next big one for me, is turn 14, Campus. It's key to get good exit speed here to carry through into T15. That then gives you the faster running into the flat-out section through 16 and 17. the chicane I'm not very good at. I can vary +/- 0.3 s just going through there depending on if I get the entry right or not.

I tried the F1. It was about 3 seconds slower than what I could do with the Nismo.
This is a good write up but interesting in that we approach things a bit differently. My best is a 2.04.9 for reference, optimal 2.04.5.

I actually tap the brake into 9, just a tap to rotate the car, tonnes of time on that exit as you said.

Now, Pouhon (10), this is where we really are different. You don't lift? I brake, like PROPERLY brake, hard and short, getting on the gas early is key.

One underrated spot that i seem to really make a lot of time up against other A drivers is the braking for 12, I brake AFTER the kerbs on the left and still pull her up, really shaves some time.

But in the end, it's turn 14 that drives the lap. Ideally on the gas before the apex right through to 18, easier said than done.

I suspect some of you are not driving hard enough, you really need to trust the car, push as hard as you can 'till you bin it :)
 
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G29 settings seem to be like US politics. Pick a side and argue about it...

For what it is worth, I found for my G29 to have:
Controller sensitivity: 5 (this is critical for a more natural feel)
Force feedback strength: 2
Force feedback sensitivity: 2

With higher settings I was getting to much of a transition between force/dead spot/force when sweeping from left to right/right to left through the center making high powered cars uncontrollable. Reducing the settings make the wheel much lighter in feeling but ultimately more controllable.
Honestly PD did it to themselves - it's completely unclear what each setting does through the tooltip and then there's no actual way to gauge force feedback output either. I don't know what they were thinking.

The way I see it is that Torque alone at 9 is going to give you so much resistance that in a G29 there is going to be no room for there to be road details delivered on top of the torque feedback.

I still have no idea what Sensitivity does. I've played around with it loads on my wheel and I've never felt a difference. The tool tip is written like a Harry Potter spell too, it's madness.
 
This is a good write up but interesting in that we approach things a bit differently. My best is a 2.04.9 for reference, optimal 2.04.5.

I actually tap the brake into 9, just a tap to rotate the car, tonnes of time on that exit as you said.

Now, Pouhon (10), this is where we really are different. You don't lift? I brake, like PROPERLY brake, hard and short, getting on the gas early is key.

One underrated spot that i seem to really make a lot of time up against other A drivers is the braking for 12, I brake AFTER the kerbs on the left and still pull her up, really shaves some time.

But in the end, it's turn 14 that drives the lap. Ideally on the gas before the apex right through to 18, easier said than done.

I suspect some of you are not driving hard enough, you really need to trust the car, push as hard as you can 'till you bin it :)
I probably need to look at my replays again. There are certainly times when I have braked and have not. For T10, I started off braking into it but stopped doing a full on brake. I might still be dragging momentarily at like 50% though..

I agree T12 is very core as well. For me that is one with a good degree of trail braking to keep it tighter to the right initially, to set up the corner for T13 and (I think) getting on the gas before the apex there. That whole complex of 12 though 14 is very critical. Now I think of it, is there anything on this challenging course that is not critical? LOL.
 
Got W's last night in Daily C with the Beetle and the 4C. Love the GR.2 cars at spa, but only 4 laps is just too short for me.

Had some great racing last night in Daily C. Best race of the night though was in the FT-1. I love driving this car because the cockpit view is spot on. I was so glad I was streaming because there is some wild moments in this race. I can't even imagine what its like to run these type races in VR.

I got beat around a bit early and decided to put on M at the end of lap 4. Wish I would have waited one more lap because the last lap I had nothing left an was holding up a lot of people for 3rd. Favorite moment was a save during the esses portion on lap 3. 100% my fault, didn't realize had someone on the inside and swore I was wrecking.

 
It's a proper race track, no video game gimmie corners, no gimmicks, just a proper race track. I'd kill for Road America, it is similar to drive, every corner matters but there's no gimmicks.
I'd absolute kill for Road America as well. For one it is just up the road from me and I watched GT races there before. I keep telling my wife that when I retire I want to do a track day there as a present to myself. But it's so much money.....
 
I'd absolute kill for Road America as well. For one it is just up the road from me and I watched GT races there before. I keep telling my wife that when I retire I want to do a track day there as a present to myself. But it's so much money.....
Track days have become a joke. I own a 911 (997) and man, one day will likely set me back $3K between track fees and tyres. Insane.

it's the tyres that kill you, a new set is well over $2K (Michelin PS4S) and say 4 hours on track you're going to take a LOT of life out of them. Ideally one runs a second set wheels and a more durable track tyre but so much hassle.
 
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G29 settings seem to be like US politics. Pick a side and argue about it... [and never change your mind no matter what kind of new evidence has been presented].

For what it is worth, I found for my G29 to have:
Controller sensitivity: 5 (this is critical for a more natural feel)
Force feedback strength: 2
Force feedback sensitivity: 2

With higher settings I was getting to much of a transition between force/dead spot/force when sweeping from left to right/right to left through the center making high powered cars uncontrollable. Reducing the settings make the wheel much lighter in feeling but ultimately more controllable.
I lol'ed at this. But you forgot the ending bit.

On my G29 I had the FFB set pretty low. Mainly because I wanted to prolong its life. Lower loads, less stress, longer lasting.



Did another race B in the CLK. Man I love that car. Best quali time with it was an 04.4. Decided to jump into the GTR and after relearning the track, got it down to an 03.7. T10 is probably my biggest nemesis; the margin between a .500" gain/loss is so slim.
 
Track days have become a joke. I own a 911 (997) and man, one day will likely set me back $3K between track fees and tyres. Insane.
It looks like Hagerty and Kelly Moss sponsor track days there for $375 for novice group. For a street car all he needs is proper brake fluid & pads. Plus fuel costs. That’s a relatively inexpensive track day. Nevertheless, it’s way cheaper to sim race even with expensive equipment.
 
Where did you get this map? It's awesome!
This site is my go-to for circuit info/corner names
Racing Circuits Info - Spa

Also finally cracked into the 2:05:8xx bracket in Race B. I was on a lap that would be into the 2:04 but binned it at the end, too much pressure lol.
Either way that's more than good enough to put me in Pole almost 2 full seconds ahead of the 2nd place qualifier because my rating is down to D/B lolol

Had a race this morning that started rough, pole position but then some bumps came into La Source and up Kemmel and into the curves there. Ended up down in 5th. Decided ok just run qualy laps b/c I know I'm faster. Set a fast lap of 2:06 and change and ended up passing 1st/2nd as they were fighting into Blanchimont for the recovery win!

Love this combo it's so fast, fun, and flowing. I'll be spending all my time here this week. I did set a time for Race A in the TT. It's not great, I don't think I'm a fan of the car/track combo. Race C probably isn't getting my attention just because B is so much fun lol
 
It looks like Hagerty and Kelly Moss sponsor track days there for $375 for novice group. For a street car all he needs is proper brake fluid & pads. Plus fuel costs. That’s a relatively inexpensive track day. Nevertheless, it’s way cheaper to sim race even with expensive equipment.
Tyres, tyres, tyres. I am running 295 rears.
 
For those of you who, like me, aren't a SpaMaster™️, here's a little encouragement. I'm not bragging about this time, because it's honestly nothing to brag about. But I wanted to show you that you can be struggling to even match your meager best time, when all of a sudden something clicks:

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Improving by well over a second, after not being able to come close to my best time during hours and hours of attempts, is an awesome feeling. You can do it to!!!

And for the record, no, I haven't tried another lap yet. I posted this right away. Time will tell if I can replicate it or do better.

("Time will tell" is one of my favorite jokes when talking about qualifying. It's just so... perfect.)
Little steps but finaly got my 2:02 🦾
And then there's this guy^^^. I mean, what the actual <word I can't say here>? Someone beam this guy up!.

Just kidding, @RacinLei. That's an amazing time. :bowdown:
This site is my go-to for circuit info/corner names
Racing Circuits Info - Spa
Thanks!
 
@GrumpyOldMan

🤣 thanks
Have you tried the gt500 ‘16 with small wing? For me, it feels a bit more balanced and the rear end follows better wile turning. And a bit faster on straights.
 
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I haven't tried qualifying for Race A this week yet, but I'm told that the Audi TT Cup is the ideal car. Would the list of ideal cars be broadened if we were permitted to change the brake balance? I do recall this most recent Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Series Season 3 permitting such a thing.
 
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