GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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@MCL1974

Not all are the same.
I risk it and go all in in qualy for pole or mess it up and start on the end of the grid rather than doing it carefully but end up mostly in the midfield.
No pain no gain 🦾
 
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The hairpin on lap 1 of Race C is very very messy. There are so many different lines in and out and each car wants to take it a bit differently. I’ve killed or been killed in around 90% of my races. It’s particularly bad in the Porsche because it turns on a dime and you brake a bit later than the FRs. The only place to go when you need to take evasive action is inside and, even though you can get it stopped and turned, the wide-line FRs think you’re driving dirty.

The other option is to slow right down and get yeeted by another late braking torpedo.

Once you get through that turn the race is great.

I just realized something about Q laps at Spa. Things in the window appear farther away than they really are. I thought I was way behind my ghost:
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... but I was wrong:
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Not that that was really close, but I wasn't nearly as bad as I thought I was. If I did a perfect final chicane, there's no telling how I could have ended up.

You need to account for the speed of the car. These things are super-quick so they cover a lot of distance in a tenth of a second. (About 8m)
 
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The back straight at Deep Forest is like playing Tetris when things line up just right 😄


And where is the Tetris music? Re-edit this please.
I wonder how you all would react if the Daily format was changed to be like the GTWS races - where you have to qualify before every race in the car you're going to use. No more perfecting your times over 100 laps, no more waiting until it gets dark for the optimum conditions.

Just set a time and race.

Jim Carrey Omg GIF
I would love this. I generally start better in the GTWS due to this. I find constantly lapping for a better time to be boring so can only manage 5 laps at a time.
 
I find constantly lapping for a better time to be boring so can only manage 5 laps at a time.
Applies to me also. Qualifying pre-race would be interesting indeed and would have my support.
Some folks qualify with the meta car but like to use different cars to race,
But allowing this makes no sense when considering RL racing?

Same applies to the over emphasis on QT following repeated runs to top a leaderboard. As has already been said, that’s gaming, not racing. Personally, my inferiority complex doesn’t need to be massaged so frequently. For us lesser mortals it can be disheartening.
 
But allowing this makes no sense when considering RL racing?

Same applies to the over emphasis on QT following repeated runs to top a leaderboard. As has already been said, that’s gaming, not racing. Personally, my inferiority complex doesn’t need to be massaged so frequently. For us lesser mortals it can be disheartening.
RL racing you get practice sessions and a full qualy session and races longer than 4 laps. Who are we kidding?

I don't see what it has to do with an inferiority complex, some folks just enjoy hot lapping, we have two fellas here who friendly joust weekly. It's all in good sprits, play the game how you want to, no skin off my nose so to speak. If people are qualy specialists you'll pick them off in race anyways.
 
Only issue with a pre race qualy is you will see even more convergence on the car type. Some folks qualify with the meta car but like to use different cars to race, this would most likely push people to use the fastest car at all times.
I would love the idea of each car having its own fastest QT and you qualify with the time you set on that specific car.

I see a lot of Ford GTs on the leaderboards but hardly ever see one in the actual race. The F-Type and AMG are fantastic here.

As it pertains to the "QT Wars"....I think QT is even more important in a game where people don't race clean for the most part. I just know if I'm pole or close to it I'll get podium or win. If I'm 5th or later I'm going to get crushed under the zombies at the hairpin of death.
 
I tried Daily race B yesterday... I had set a pretty decent qualifying time which had me starting in about the top 3.

Once the race started the game was so jumpy and laggy that it was almost unplayable. First race I started pole and lost two positions because i couldn't see when i was at the apex, and keep missing my braking points because it seemed like the game was running at like 15 frames per second.

I admit I am still on a PS4... I tried to delete some replays thinking maybe my storage was low making the game run poorly. Restarted the game a couple of times. Still laggy every race. Went over to race A for the rest of my stream and all the races ran fine there. I had zero stuttering like this last week for the SF races at Suzuka...

Anyone else having trouble here?
 
I would love the idea of each car having its own fastest QT and you qualify with the time you set on that specific car.
There's a user here, "Nvrthesamecar", constantly changes cars he races with but I don't think he fancies starting near last eevry race other than when he is using a meta car.
 
I wonder how you all would react if the Daily format was changed to be like the GTWS races - where you have to qualify before every race in the car you're going to use. No more perfecting your times over 100 laps, no more waiting until it gets dark for the optimum conditions.

Just set a time and race.

Jim Carrey Omg GIF
That Jim Carrey meme expresses it pefectly. I'd probably still be in DR D.🤣
 
I tried Daily race B yesterday... I had set a pretty decent qualifying time which had me starting in about the top 3.

Once the race started the game was so jumpy and laggy that it was almost unplayable. First race I started pole and lost two positions because i couldn't see when i was at the apex, and keep missing my braking points because it seemed like the game was running at like 15 frames per second.

I admit I am still on a PS4... I tried to delete some replays thinking maybe my storage was low making the game run poorly. Restarted the game a couple of times. Still laggy every race. Went over to race A for the rest of my stream and all the races ran fine there. I had zero stuttering like this last week for the SF races at Suzuka...

Anyone else having trouble here?
Maybe you hade one with a really poor connection in this lobby, happens twice to me today. After he stoped the lobby was fine.
 
There's a user here, "Nvrthesamecar", constantly changes cars he races with but I don't think he fancies starting near last eevry race other than when he is using a meta car.
Yeah I don't fancy it, that's it... Has nothing to do with my obsession of trying to finish top 5 every race. lol... Seriously though, those guys like Qualifylol or Happyface are just so impressive that they can be that fast and consistently get victories from the back.
I wonder how you all would react if the Daily format was changed to be like the GTWS races - where you have to qualify before every race in the car you're going to use. No more perfecting your times over 100 laps, no more waiting until it gets dark for the optimum conditions.

Just set a time and race.
I would be all for this. I love the drama that comes with qualifying on the Nations or Manufacturers. But, can't we use both methods for qualifying still? Keep the leaderboard, even show the fastest laps at the loading screen like they are now, but then just throw in a 5 min qually session before the race. I think at least on C this could work every week. For a race like B that for the last few weeks have only been 4-5 laps I could see that turning some people away.
 
I just realized something about Q laps at Spa. Things in the window appear farther away than they really are.

... but I was wrong:
Yep, when you're going 170mph the gap looks vast. It's always amazing how it closes when you hit braking zones and sometimes that my downfall as the gap closes quicker hat I might anticipate and then BOOM!
I would love the idea of each car having its own fastest QT and you qualify with the time you set on that specific car.
100% on board with this.
Once the race started the game was so jumpy and laggy that it was almost unplayable. First race I started pole and lost two positions because i couldn't see when i was at the apex, and keep missing my braking points because it seemed like the game was running at like 15 frames per second.

I admit I am still on a PS4... I tried to delete some replays thinking maybe my storage was low making the game run poorly. Restarted the game a couple of times. Still laggy every race. Went over to race A for the rest of my stream and all the races ran fine there. I had zero stuttering like this last week for the SF races at Suzuka...
PS4 lag issue or your internet connection. Do you use wifi or ethernet? If wifi you may have had interference from a neighbor.
 
And I might be up in A. At least I get plenty of overtaking practice.
If it's a somewhat clean race, I usually end up very much around my starting position. One or two positions higher or lower at worst. Since arriving in DR A, gone are the days of qualifying in pole position in any race...😬 I can hold my own, but not do great things...

Another reason for overemphasizing qualifying for me has been that I've got an internet connection problem for several months now. I'm always on a single red dot in every single race, and I'm not comfortable thinking that I'm messing up other drivers races lagging and jumping around. So I do only two or three races per week, usually race A.

My router has been changed, my LAN is okay, next week my provider will send a service guy who'll hopefully figure it out. Fingers crossed...

And if PD changed the daily race format to the GTWS format, I'd happily adapt to it.
 
I think a quali session or one lap format would spice up things for race c at least. With my proposed idea of keeping the qualifying/hotlap/practice mode where you would run the meta car and other possible race candidate cars and have your absolute best QT displayed on the leader board but come race entry you must run a quali session or one flying lap to set the grid in whatever car you picked for the race. For race c it at least wouldn't be all QT meta cars as they are often not the strongest car for the race. Totally different dynamic than endless hotlap quali with endless restarts if you make a mistake. More about getting a decent lap and consistency than being the out right quickest on your umpteenth try.
 
I think a quali session or one lap format would spice up things for race c at least. With my proposed idea of keeping the qualifying/hotlap/practice mode where you would run the meta car and other possible race candidate cars and have your absolute best QT displayed on the leader board but come race entry you must run a quali session or one flying lap to set the grid in whatever car you picked for the race. For race c it at least wouldn't be all QT meta cars as they are often not the strongest car for the race. Totally different dynamic than endless hotlap quali with endless restarts if you make a mistake. More about getting a decent lap and consistency than being the out right quickest on your umpteenth try.
And the guys that enjoy starting from the rear could still do it pretty easily and still post up their fastest hot lap... I'm really surprised this isn't already a thing.
 
I can easily see both sides of the discussion here. Setting a hyperfast QT can be done by just grinding the qualifying options and is not necessarily reflective of race pace.

That being said even on my absolute best days my QT aren't all that much faster than I can run in the race itself. While there are some circuits, like Dragon Trail with the COD, where you can just grind out a time that really shouldn't be replicated in race conditions generally speaking it's not that far off.

I also think there's something neat about setting a QT with the meta car and then trying to race something else.

All of that being said having to jump into your race car, set a time, and then blammo it's race time is very simple to grok and may lead to interesting results.


I really enjoy competing with my friends on who can set the best QT or who can set a fast QT with a non-meta car and sometimes I have a lot more fun with that than I do any actual racing and I think we don't want to lose that. I also don't want to lose the ability to grind out QT and then go racing at the end of the week with the best starting position you can grab.

Someone suggested something along the lines of "your QT as currently done" puts you into your pool of drivers, then the QT you set when you sign up for the race determines your starting position. I haven't ever done any GTWS races before so I don't know if they do qualiy like real racing does where if you're on a lap before the time runs out you get to finish it. If it does then yeah port that over to the dailies for determining your starting position. The problem is then you've also got to give everyone the same amount of time to qualify which could impact daily scheduling and I'm not sure that's a problem you can solve unless you don't start the qualy timer until the lobby is full but then you're waiting additional time etc.

So yeah, I think there's logistical problems with porting the GTWS format to daily qualifying but I think there's value in trying to see if there's a way to more accurately reflect "this was your qualifying period for this race and you start in position x based on that time" as opposed to "you grinded qualifying for 6 days and now you're on pole even if you have no hope of replicating that time again"
 
@CmdrParabolus saw you in my race earlier. Lots of shenanigans in that one, saw you tusslin' with a Porsche driver lol.
Lol yeh not my finest moment. Went flying into the corner - forgot how heavy and dead the car is with full fuel. He has definitely been too aggressive with me in the past so whatever. That race was bad for me - my worst finish in Race C this week - but good to see a fellow Jaguar out there. Love your white livery btw!

The next race went better. Started in pole with hards, managed to hold off drivers on mediums for a while. Got passed by a Jaguar on L2 and then a surprisingly fast Alfa Romeo on L5. Pit on lap 7 at P3 for mediums down 4 seconds. First and second place pit next lap into hards and popped out only 1.5 seconds ahead of me. Managed to easily overtake for P2 on L11 and set fastest lap, but took me until the final lap to overtake as the rightful owner of P1. One of my favorite races.
 
I think in the name or fairness it would have to be a solo flying lap come the race to set the grid, the griefing in daily race qualifying sessions with 16 cars on track would not be a good scene imo, I can understand why it works in the gtws but you definitely aren't getting that caliber of driving standards in daily lobbies every half an hour haha. Would also keep things streamlined and probably not cause too much issue with timing the race intervals.
 
I think in the name or fairness it would have to be a solo flying lap come the race to set the grid, the griefing in daily race qualifying sessions with 16 cars on track would not be a good scene imo, I can understand why it works in the gtws but you definitely aren't getting that caliber of driving standards in daily lobbies every half an hour haha. Would also keep things streamlined and probably not cause too much issue with timing the race intervals.
yep. Good point.
 
I think in the name or fairness it would have to be a solo flying lap come the race to set the grid, the griefing in daily race qualifying sessions with 16 cars on track would not be a good scene imo, I can understand why it works in the gtws but you definitely aren't getting that caliber of driving standards in daily lobbies every half an hour haha. Would also keep things streamlined and probably not cause too much issue with timing the race intervals.
And the diffrents in driving quality. The dailys are already rough, imagin those crash people who ruin youre hotlap in a qualy.
 
Lol yeh not my finest moment. Went flying into the corner - forgot how heavy and dead the car is with full fuel. He has definitely been too aggressive with me in the past so whatever. That race was bad for me - my worst finish in Race C this week - but good to see a fellow Jaguar out there. Love your white livery btw!

The next race went better. Started in pole with hards, managed to hold off drivers on mediums for a while. Got passed by a Jaguar on L2 and then a surprisingly fast Alfa Romeo on L5. Pit on lap 7 at P3 for mediums down 4 seconds. First and second place pit next lap into hards and popped out only 1.5 seconds ahead of me. Managed to easily overtake for P2 on L11 and set fastest lap, but took me until the final lap to overtake as the rightful owner of P1. One of my favorite races.
I am so surprised the Alfa isn't the meta this week in C. Ran three races with it so far this week and won each time. If you haven't tried the 4C yet, give it a go.

The one last night was AMAZING. I clipped the battle for the lead because it had a few different lead changes in it, but also because it shows how you can learn from your mistakes. I nearly took us both out heading into T1 because he was in the Suzuki - which I love - but was on Hards and I was not expecting him to brake so early. Just pure dumb luck I didn't crash us both.

But the next lap, I knew what was coming and was a little better prepared for it.
 
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