GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Come off it mate. No need to knock the entire service because you're having a strop about 1 bad race.

It's not like iRacing is any better. I filmed this literally last night.


I was thinking the same. Go play iracing. But you won't because you have to pay. We all know GT has issues but we're all still here playing. Having a good clean battle with someone gives me possibly the best feeling in gaming along with 2v2 Pro evo soccer. If you're having more bad races than good, it's time to move on. My good to bad races ratio is about 7/1 so I'll see you on track (if you're B).
 
and from Race A where wins can sometimes come easily because of non-serious racing
I thought about this, "Is it really true though? Or you won them only because you were still climbing DR ranks?"

Tried out the Race A. Immediately observed that pretty much only the pole sitter can win the race. The poor grip on comfort softs means that you really have to maximize all the space by staying on the race line all the time, instead of fighting each other. Even 2nd and 3rd starting guys have it tough because they are blocked by each other from taking their racing line into turn one. Carefully paid attention during qualifying, to set a really nice lap. Started at pole in a field of mostly DR-C guys (I'm DR-B) with the only threat coming from a DR-A guy who did not set a qualifying time.
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At race start, I immediately pull 3 seconds because of having all the space to myself. Other top starting guys clash at turn one, as expected, due to the poor grip. The race quickly ends.
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Not doing this race again as I don't feel like taking easy wins. I more enjoy intense battles for 8th position. :)

It is a quite enjoyable combo by the way. It is a hoot to hurl the Ferrari through the corners and catching drifts.
 
I thought about this, "Is it really true though? Or you won them only because you were still climbing DR ranks?"

Tried out the Race A. Immediately observed that pretty much only the pole sitter can win the race. The poor grip on comfort softs means that you really have to maximize all the space by staying on the race line all the time, instead of fighting each other. Even 2nd and 3rd starting guys have it tough because they are blocked by each other from taking their racing line into turn one. Carefully paid attention during qualifying, to set a really nice lap. Started at pole in a field of mostly DR-C guys (I'm DR-B) with the only threat coming from a DR-A guy who did not set a qualifying time.
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At race start, I immediately pull 3 seconds because of having all the space to myself. Other top starting guys clash at turn one, as expected, due to the poor grip. The race quickly ends.
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Not doing this race again as I don't feel like taking easy wins. I more enjoy intense battles for 8th position. :)

It is a quite enjoyable combo by the way. It is a hoot to hurl the Ferrari through the corners and catching drifts.
I've gotten a couple of wins in race A not starting on pole and seen a few others. With equal drivers there's still a good chance for a race. The problem with the easy win is where we've been complaining that not many faster drivers come to race and so often all the racing is the drivers behind in the pack who have similar pace. Last race I ran I was on pole by 4 seconds. It was almost never going to be a realistic close race.

I do still wish more fast people played race A. Usually a well underrated combo.
 
This is the case as per my subjective observation. After having done 370 Sport races and with my kudosprime graph looking like a flat line, I have come to recognize and remember names. Fastest drivers are also usually least consistent and/or dirtiest, which is why they are stuck in mid-B with me. A reason why I think that a lot of victories in the stat are a bad sign (doesn't apply to A+ drivers as I don't really know what the competition is like at A+).

For me, all wins came while climbing up the DR ranks as I got better, and from Race A where wins can sometimes come easily because of non-serious racing. I've 8 wins from 370 Sport races. My average finishing position is 8th.

Race A- Alsace Test Course in BMW Z8'01 BOP. 5-8 laps. Sports hard tires. 1-10x tire/fuel (wow, even I could guess the same).
Race B- Catalunya GP no chicane Gr.3. 5 laps. Racing medium tires. 1x tire/fuel.
Race C- Suzuka Gr.2. 10 laps. Racing soft tires. No more info.
Since Nenkai isn't doing the Daily races anymore, Omega seems to know most of what's coming up...


Nenkai still posts the information, just not formatted on twitter.

The correct total information is:
BMW Z8 | Sports Hards | Alsace Test (7 laps)
Gr.3 Catalunya (no chicane) | Racing Mediums (4 laps)
Gr.2 Suzuka | Racing Softs | x3 Tyre x1 Fuel (10 laps)

4 laps for Race B is very funny. And very PD.
 
I think it also depends on the time of day you play. When I play when there are a lot of racers I have a much more equal lobby and so can expect a reasonable chance of a top 8 position. Top 5 will come and go as DR improves it gets harder then as I lose and DR drops it becomes easier; it bobbles around.

Race in weird hours though, like late at night/early morning and I find a very mixed lobby where I'm up against high DR B, As and even A+. In those lobbies I don't stand a chance and I am grateful when I am able to finish top 12. Those are usually about minimizing DR loss though sometimes it not as bad I would expect and here I would expect @Famine to chime in that the DR points also take into account the ratings of the drivers around you. So while placing is important, losing against A and A+ drivers is not so terrible if you were a C or low B ranked driver.
this is exactly my experience, all B lobbies at peak hours, racing against B,A,A+ for most of my lobbies. I've got thousands of races and merely 1% victories. Don't care about #1, but podiums and top 5's are more frequent and that keeps me from going bonkers. I live at HighB/lowA and proof that you can trickle your DR in a very slow march upward. And now my DR seems pretty stable; when I hit A, I fall back after a week or three and when it falls down a bit in B, I start recovering it. Rinse, repeat. It might be frustrating to some, but for me, the race is the thing.
 
Man, talk about disappointment! I ran some B Q laps, and improved my time by more than .3 seconds. So I figured I'd have a better starting position that the other races today, which were anywhere from P6 to P11. So I started the race and... P12. fml.

Finished P7, about .005 seconds off of P6 (great last lap of reasonably clean racing).

So here's this week, with only 8 races so far:

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But my trend since the end of March isn't looking too promising:

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Story of my life - over the hill and heading downward fast. :lol:
 
Nenkai still posts the information, just not formatted on twitter.

The correct total information is:
BMW Z8 | Sports Hards | Alsace Test (7 laps)
Gr.3 Catalunya (no chicane) | Racing Mediums (4 laps)
Gr.2 Suzuka | Racing Softs | x3 Tyre x1 Fuel (10 laps)

4 laps for Race B is very funny. And very PD.
Could be my driving style but on BoP Medium, one car stands out to me... 3 laps with each car, made some mistakes in all laps but the time difference between cars would not change drastically. MR seems to be the best.
 

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A question for those who know the Gr.3 meta better than I do: The BRZ is clearly very quick over one lap (it's been at or very near the top of the recent Gr.3 time trials at all of Fuji/Nurb 24h/Barcelona) and as we're seeing in today's GTWS event, it's also very very good on its tyres, meaning it has more strategy options open to it than other cars. So what's the car's big weakness for which the meta eschews it in favour of the '18 GT-R or Supra?
 
A question for those who know the Gr.3 meta better than I do: The BRZ is clearly very quick over one lap (it's been at or very near the top of the recent Gr.3 time trials at all of Fuji/Nurb 24h/Barcelona) and as we're seeing in today's GTWS event, it's also very very good on its tyres, meaning it has more strategy options open to it than other cars. So what's the car's big weakness for which the meta eschews it in favour of the '18 GT-R or Supra?
IIRC unless something’s changed very recently it has quite average acceleration and unless you manage to speed away and drive on your own you might end up stuck in fights costing you a lot of seconds.
 
IIRC unless something’s changed very recently it has quite average acceleration and unless you manage to speed away and drive on your own you might end up stuck in fights costing you a lot of seconds.
It hasn’t changed. I was lucky enough to start behind one today in the GTWS - was ahead within a hundred yards.
 
A question for those who know the Gr.3 meta better than I do: The BRZ is clearly very quick over one lap (it's been at or very near the top of the recent Gr.3 time trials at all of Fuji/Nurb 24h/Barcelona) and as we're seeing in today's GTWS event, it's also very very good on its tyres, meaning it has more strategy options open to it than other cars. So what's the car's big weakness for which the meta eschews it in favour of the '18 GT-R or Supra?
It has corner speed but that is negated by just how op the supra and porsche are.

In the World Series the drivers are over or at least limit driving. In the real world where us mortals play, it's viable but if you are matched against drivers at equal skill level usually the meta is the way to go.

Over driving either the car or ability is a risky strategy. We do it for fun because it's not easy.

But hand on heart if you (or me) want to do really really well. Go with the proven quick stuff. Especially if you can TT well.
 
Daily Race B today is brutal. Not outright dirty (although close), but keep you butt puckered and hug every corner or someone will try to pass you on the inside, with 2 wheels on the grass. Wish I smoked, so I could flick my lit cigarette at some of these pricks.

EDIT: So this next race, I drove like they do, and I don't like it. Sure, I went for P8-P5, but at what cost? My dignity and integrity, that's what. It was less than satisfying.
 
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Daily Race B today is brutal. Not outright dirty (although close), but keep you butt puckered and hug every corner or someone will try to pass you on the inside, with 2 wheels on the grass. Wish I smoked, so I could flick my lit cigarette at some of these pricks.

EDIT: So this next race, I drove like they do, and I don't like it. Sure, I went for P8-P5, but at what cost? My dignity and integrity, that's what. It was less than satisfying.


Interlagos is particularly brutal in these sprint races, being that every single turn there lends itself to taking people out
 
Daily Race B today is brutal. Not outright dirty (although close), but keep you butt puckered and hug every corner or someone will try to pass you on the inside, with 2 wheels on the grass. Wish I smoked, so I could flick my lit cigarette at some of these pricks.

EDIT: So this next race, I drove like they do, and I don't like it. Sure, I went for P8-P5, but at what cost? My dignity and integrity, that's what. It was less than satisfying.
Interlagos is particularly brutal in these sprint races, being that every single turn there lends itself to taking people out
I like Interlagos but I also agree that it can be brutal. If you can pull ahead and maintain a 1 second lead from the person behind then it can be very satisfying. But if you have someone on your heals you have to drive every corner defensively, taking the inside line, and then that only slows you up allowing more scrappy racers to bite at your heals and then it becomes a vicious circle.

If you are one of those scrappy racers though it gives you an opportunity to catch up. If I can keep out of the fray I can do well. As soon as you get caught in traffic though, if you are wimpy about it you'll get side swiped out... Conversely, if people are fighting ahead of you it is relatively easy to take advantage of that to gain spots - but it cn be dangerous as well. So easy to get hit..

Key to Interlagos is a good QT. You need to be ahead of all the Riff-raff...
 
I like Interlagos but I also agree that it can be brutal.
I agree with everything you said. It matches my experience to a "T".

For example:
If you can pull ahead and maintain a 1 second lead from the person behind then it can be very satisfying.
Absolutely.
But if you have someone on your heals you have to drive every corner defensively, taking the inside line, and then that only slows you up allowing more scrappy racers to bite at your heals and then it becomes a vicious circle.
Absolutely.
As soon as you get caught in traffic though, if you are wimpy about it you'll get side swiped out...
I went from P8 to DFL in just a few turns in the first lap, because once someone manages to slow you down, it's like a stampede leaving a burning theater.
Conversely, if people are fighting ahead of you it is relatively easy to take advantage of that to gain spots
Experienced this also, and was a happy bystander picking up places as the carnage in front of me wreaked havoc. But this only happened a few times, compared to the bad stuff.
Key to Interlagos is a good QT. You need to be ahead of all the Riff-raff...
Absolutely.
 
Haven't done much of a report on the dailies this week. After a dodgy start to the week which dropped me back to DR C, and deciding I've had enough practice to take the VR2 online, I've had some good races.

Friday I managed an unexpected win at the Nurburgring. Found myself in a lobby where my quali time put me 2nd on the grid. Got a clean start and had a great lap 1 battle. I lost out, but the leader pitted at the end of lap 1, so I got my head down and managed to pull a lead. I stopped on lap 8 and had a bit more of a battle then, but managed to get the gap up again thanks to some mistakes behind.

This is lap 1...


Lap 1 Battle


Yesterday I had another go at C in the evening, This one was a Porsche Fest, only 1 RCZ and a 458 in the top 12! Started 9th in this one on the hards and went for a lap 2 change. Spent most of the race in 10-12th place as a result. Great close fights throughout with the people around changing due to pitstops. By the last two laps, I had climbed up the order though. I got lucky with a few drivers going off in battle with each other, and someone ahead spun on the final turn to give me 4th place.

Taking a place at the hairpin


And to finish the evening off, a fun race at Interlagos. Started 10th and got knocked out of the track on lap 1 to lose a couple of places. It stayed tight though and I picked up places from a couple of penalties, and some battling ahead. I managed to keep a CRB somehow and took 6th place home, just!

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Great fun all round. I'm loving the difference VR makes to the whole thing and I swear I've got faster thanks to using it. 😁
 
Nenkai still posts the information, just not formatted on twitter.

The correct total information is:
BMW Z8 | Sports Hards | Alsace Test (7 laps)
Gr.3 Catalunya (no chicane) | Racing Mediums (4 laps)
Gr.2 Suzuka | Racing Softs | x3 Tyre x1 Fuel (10 laps)

4 laps for Race B is very funny. And very PD.
Nice. Took a week off for Diablo IV, but group 2 on softs might pull me back in. 👍
 
It's something I've wondered about, as I've done 163 races, 57 top 5's, and just 1 win. That was only because I gambled on Inters on the Nordschleife.

Presumably you'd expect 1/16 wins on average, regardless of talent as you're matched against your equals. In most races there's front runners who are clearly faster than me, so to have the same rating I guess they're a lot less consistent than I am, either deliberately to get a lower ranking, or just habitual crashers or quitters.
I am somewhere between 1% and. 2% win rate across GTS and GT7. Less in GT7, because everyone else is getting faster.
1 in 16 is only if everyone in the lobbies are equally aggressive and they're not. I am sure lots of driver have a much higher win percent than me, I alw6leave space if there's 2 wide in a corner, that's rare I think. Most people think the natural and clean thing is to push the outside runner off.
 
Haven't visited this thread too much lately as, 1) I've not been too interested in the Daily Races recently and, 2) GTWS has been occupying my GT time.

But, I did a couple Daily As today and it was a lot of fun. Really good combo as this Ferrari slidey fun with a small dose of slidey dangerous. All this so long as you can survive the first set of turns on lap one. If you're mid pack, good luck. Otherwise it's good fun.

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Last week my DR took a huge setback. I guess I'm still DR-C for a pixel or two.
I think it's what it happens when one only start messing with dailies on Fri evening with 15 quali laps and than fires 4 races in a row on Sat. Interlagos also didn't help, it's not one of my favorites.
Also racecraft is an area of big improvement room for me, I make too many errors in close combat or leave to much space to others, particullary to people not that willing to avoid contacts.

My instintive reaction was to give up with dailies until I have some time to prepare them, but since it's probably never gonna happen and it's not a good answer to the need of improve racecraft I will stick with it even with little time.

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Ok apart from B being very very short by like 2/3 laps it's not a bad race. A bit sweaty for QT/TT times but had a few races and they have been clean.

But.......the waiting longer than you are racing is so so so annoying.

Edit:

The game has got REALLY unstable.

Earlier it wouldn't load ghosts from the leader boards and now it just hung...

Nothing has changed in my house or set up and I've checked the PS5 storage all good. Just a really ropey experience yet all the preceding days have been fine :/
 
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I am honestly finding it very hard to understand this week's massive gap between the top 50 and everyone else for Race B.

After almost 30 laps of practice, I'm almost 2 seconds behind the leaders yet almost in the top 500?! That's friggin weird, feels like an exploit...

I did one race when my time was 1:41:3 (shaved 2 tenths just now) and started P12 in a lobby full of A+ drivers. Was up to P9 at one point but as everyone was racing cleanly, I accepted my small mistake when trying to regain P10 from Stokes and had to also let P11 through to avoid contact.

Still, finished 1 place ahead and honestly was just as fast as them and remained with them. Top 3 flew out of range and the rest of us were separated by just a few seconds. Was happy with my driving and result, considering the quality of drivers around me 🙂

Here's my fastest lap but again, 2 seconds behind is way off, unless I'm just not as fast this week, along with thousands of others more than usual... 🤣

 

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I will try Race B tomorrow :rolleyes: in the meantime I tried and got a victory in Race A; the Z8 is really prone to understeering :indiff:

Because this victory was not one of my most exciting, I added a bonus clip at end, finally having a proof of how dirty a certain GT7 driver/streamer really is 👿



jkofcourse:lol:
 
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