GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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sturk0167
Believe it, or not, I got a Clean Race Bonus.
The game knew I got hit into those two walls, so my SR was unharmed.
I assume the car that hit me, lost some SR points. But, I don't think he hit me intentionally.

If someone who doesn't care about SR wants to just push other cars into walls, he'll probably get a nice finish. :irked:
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hey look at that guy on pole! :) Good to see you.

Smae thing happened to me - you were pushed into that wall, wasn't your fault. I was sent into the grass (on two different laps), slapped hard with 5(!!) seconds. Twice. I didn't get the crb but my SR was still maxed out. So the algorithm knew it wasn't my fault for hitting the wall, didn't deduct SR but still slapped me 5? Or was I so squeaky clean through the other sectors that I earned enough back? My brain hurts.
 
icycls
hey look at that guy on pole! :) Good to see you.

Smae thing happened to me - you were pushed into that wall, wasn't your fault. I was sent into the grass (on two different laps), slapped hard with 5(!!) seconds. Twice. I didn't get the crb but my SR was still maxed out. So the algorithm knew it wasn't my fault for hitting the wall, didn't deduct SR but still slapped me 5? Or was I so squeaky clean through the other sectors that I earned enough back? My brain hurts.
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I figured you had some bad luck.
I didn't want to mention it, because I figured you were probably not too happy about that race. :lol:
 
sturk0167
I figured you had some bad luck.
I didn't want to mention it, because I figured you were probably not too happy about that race. :lol:
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nah, it was okay. Like you, I don't think anything was intentional. Honestly, if someone is the type to get overly offended and can't take some elbow rubbing, this is not the race for those! The penalties just seem really harsh here. I'm just trying to be careful and keep my SR maxed for the GTWS races this week.
 
icycls
hey look at that guy on pole! :) Good to see you.

Smae thing happened to me - you were pushed into that wall, wasn't your fault. I was sent into the grass (on two different laps), slapped hard with 5(!!) seconds. Twice. I didn't get the crb but my SR was still maxed out. So the algorithm knew it wasn't my fault for hitting the wall, didn't deduct SR but still slapped me 5? Or was I so squeaky clean through the other sectors that I earned enough back? My brain hurts.
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I am thinking, and hoping, the SR isn't effected by wall contact here? I dunno, I did the same thing on my first race with no practice... accrued 20 seconds worth of wall pens all on my own accord. SR didn't go down at all. Next race, 5 seconds... still no SR drop. But I did see others who lost SR so maybe just because they hit other cars. So who knows.
 
icycls
Honestly, if someone is the type to get overly offended and can't take some elbow rubbing, this is not the race for those
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Right
When I got those two penalties, at first I was shocked, then I figured hey this is a good challenge. Let's see how many spots I can reclaim, after my 10 second handicap. 👍
 
That's weird how the penalty type is different in the QT session and then the actual race. Your lap becomes invalidated if you come in contact with the wall, or go offtrack in the grass. It's funny how bully drivers abuse the lower skilled drivers but yet they get the CRB, it's like God gave them a reward for putting up with the bullies during the race.
 
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@TechnoIsLove @GrumpyOldMan

I may have done a thing....
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True story Grumpy

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Sitting out this week’s Dailies as I don’t fancy Monza nor Autopolis. Race A looks interesting though…

Will be at Bathurst practicing the GTWS race and grind the circuit experiences (Haven’t touched them in this account) so that I can get the McLaren F1 GTR Longtail from the dealership 🙂

Re the DR discussion - TBH I think how they are doing this now is probably the best without complicating things too much. They could have taken into account of how much contacts/off track moment/overall race time/# overtakes completed etc but it may be too much of an ask if they can’t even get the race penalties done right.
 
I think the main problem is context. Without the context you are asking them to program a whole bunch of logic and that comes with unintended consequences.

Could it be improved? Yes? Will it improve not by much.

Especially when I see people complaining about how bad the wall penalties are but are constantly hitting the walls....I mean you can drive round smashing in to walls....

Where I do think it's generally weak (but understand it's a gameplay choice they made and that's cool) is the damage is less effective than dirty tires....probably for balancing but still hard to compute for my brain :)
 
Three races at Monza today, and mixed results. I missed my braking point again in race 1 T1, but managed to steer clear. After 5-6 QT laps in a light car with warm tires is one thing, but a heavy car, cold tires and with 12 others trying to go from two-three lanes into a single in first chicane is a different thing. I learned than now so you others don't have to :-)

In any case the races were all in 50% A+ and 50% A lobbies, and in general very clean races. Very few penalties, and almost no contact, even in tricky and tight situations.
 
AdxRE
Sitting out this week’s Dailies as I don’t fancy Monza nor Autopolis. Race A looks interesting though…

Will be at Bathurst practicing the GTWS race and grind the circuit experiences (Haven’t touched them in this account) so that I can get the McLaren F1 GTR Longtail from the dealership 🙂

Re the DR discussion - TBH I think how they are doing this now is probably the best without complicating things too much. They could have taken into account of how much contacts/off track moment/overall race time/# overtakes completed etc but it may be too much of an ask if they can’t even get the race penalties done right.
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Damn. I was counting on you for meca stups 😆
 
See I slacked off last week, I wonder if being inactive during the racing periods dropped my DR by a huge margin. See I need to be consistent and keep up on the races, all my hard work from last month just went out the window. I was at almost a C level in mid-February.

EDIT: lowered my QT time at Monza, 1'52.768

So I'm slowly catching up to you guys, so watch out, hehe! I've got to find a quicker method for the first two chicanes, right-left, and then left-right near the debris.
 
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I've got a question for you guys. Let me set it up. Had a fun race at Monza, with a wild and wooly finish. I came out the worse for wear, but it was fun nonetheless.

As you'll see in this video, I screwed up turn 6, which is where the fun begins. (Does anyone know if swerving the car back and forth helps clean the tires?) Coming into 8-9-10, I had decisions to make.

My question is, should I have handled this differently? I almost got away with it, except for a tiny shove that really wasn't anyone's fault (or maybe it is, but that's my take).



Chris30
I wonder if being inactive during the racing periods dropped my DR by a huge margin
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Being inactive doesn't change your DR. If you ever come across a situation where you think it did, you're wrong, and the most common situation for this is:
  • You quit out of a race (in my case, usually because I'm disgusted with myself, others, or both).
  • You look at your DR/SR, and have a good idea what they are.
  • Then you shut off your PS4/5.
  • You come back a little while later, and look at your DR/SR, and they're lower that they were when you left.
  • So obviously something happened to lower your DR/SR.
Well yes, something happened - the race you quit has finished. DR/SR changes don't appear until the race is over, even if it's over as far as you're concerned.

Hope that helps!
 
No way was I going into bully sessions at Monza this week, and as much as I love Autopolis I seem to have a severe allergy to tuning success so I've been spamming race A. It's a blast.

The 5 second wall penalties keep everyone on their toes and usually once you clear past the turn onto the infield the racing settles in. Been having a lot of races with the same drivers so we've really been pushing it with different moves and lines. Sometimes one of us wrecks, sometimes the pack gets one and they're just slow fighting back through but it's been really good. Always wild when you get a penalty lap 1 and have to fight back. Getting it on lap 4 or 5 is painful though

@Chris30 Honestly the only rating I worry about is SR. DR is a bit more easily manipulated by focusingojnly on races you're good in where SR seems to be much more even. Penalty system is a mess so that's probably out as well. But keeping SR at max gives you a better chance of a clean lobby instead of the one I got first race of the week where half the grid was SR C.
 
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Redneckchef
No way was I going into bully sessions at Monza this week, and as much as I love Autopolis I seem to have a severe allergy to tuning success so I've been spamming race A. It's a blast.

The 5 second wall penalties keep everyone on their toes and usually once you clear past the turn onto the infield the racing settles in. Been having a lot of races with the same drivers so we've really been pushing it with different moves and lines. Sometimes one of us wrecks, sometimes the pack gets one and they're just slow fighting back through but it's been really good. Always wild when you get a penalty lap 1 and have to fight back. Getting it on lap 4 or 5 is painful though
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Hey, I haven't seen you post here in a long time, Idk if you remember me but I'm Chris30. I guess I'll be vigilant in Race A and not come in contact with the wall. 5 seconds is a lot which can affect your position in the race. The Lancer is a really fun car to drive, it suits to the track very well.
 
Well I'm staying with the GT-R Nismo GT3 '18 car, I improved a tiny bit, 1'52.627. It packs a punch with it's powerful engine. I probably should buy my own because then I can tweak my settings for the manual transmission. I'll let you know how it goes later in the week. I do need a rest from all the driving and pressing the buttons, I don't want my fingers to get sore/numb.
 
Chris30
I probably should buy my own because then I can tweak my settings for the manual transmission.
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The only thing you can tweak this week (unless I'm mistaken) is brake balance. But honestly, at your level of driving (no insult intended), don't bother with tweaking anything - it wouldn't make any difference. You need to focus on improving your basic driving skills. And a good way to do that is watch some YouTube videos on the subject. It doesn't matter much whether they're GT7, or iRacing, or whatever - the vast majority of basic skills are the same across games.

Looks like @Tidgney has a whole series of videos, and although they're for GT Sport and not GT7, I'm sure they're completely relevant.



Good luck and have fun. And don't let anything overwhelm you - when your brain starts to get fuzzy, back off and just race for the fun of it.
 
GrumpyOldMan
The only thing you can tweak this week (unless I'm mistaken) is brake balance.
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And differential acceleration/deceleration/initial values and suspension settings for spring frequency, anti-roll bar, and damper bound and rebound.

But definitely not gearbox settings.
 
Chris30
Improved time at Monza, 1'52.298

I'm still at the bottom of my friends leaderboard which is fine with me. As long as I have fun while learning the track.
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Fun is it for this game. That's more likely as a goal. I know I'm probably a little ahead of average, but also slow enough to know I get trounced when I get up a lobby. For me it's about fun close racing. Quit running lots of dailies after getting rammed off for things like 13th place by desperate DR divas and several times finding myself all alone in Daily A as many people think it's not worth it because you don't earn DR.

And hello!
 
So I'm on pole, and the people behind me get in a dust-up on T1 Lap 1, which gives me a big lead throughout the entire race. Great position to be in, for sure, but I find it extremely hard to keep from doing something(s) stupid. I did many stupid things in this race, but I managed to keep the damage to a minimum, and I suspect the people behind me had issues also. But a win is a win!

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And in spite of my up-and-down performance this week, I'm pleasantly surprised to be enjoying Monza. Of course, it's only Tuesday, so the smashfest that is the first chicane may still end up being this week's legacy. We'll see.

newmedia_dev
I may have done a thing....
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I looked back at my posts and saw I didn't respond to this. And I still won't! Just kidding - that is awesome, and that's the truth.
 
Did some qualifying for Race A just for giggles. Must've put in not even three or four laps before I found myself in the top 1500 times, so maybe I'll give it a swing.
 
sturk0167
It's because during GT Sport, KudosPrime had all the points info available for each player.
After each race, we could see exactly how many points we gained or lost. People just did the math to figure out PD's formula.
We've not seen any evidence that the scoring has changed.

In GT7, PD made efforts to better hide our stats from us. They never wanted us to have that info, but some computer geniuses figured out how pull that data from their site. If anyone has figured out how to get the individual driver stats from GT7 (possibly @Nenkai, or the Hungarians that run the GTSH-Rank site), they aren't sharing it like @Milouse did with his KudosPrime site. :grumpy:
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I miss Kudos Prime! Though maybe it’s better not to be obsessively checking one’s DR after each race.
 
I miss Kudosprime too. Anyways I have only done 8 races at Monza today. I'm still getting used to the track with the Group 3 cars. See they're much quicker than the Gr. 4 ones. My favorite is the Porsche RSR. It drives smoothly and gets through the corners more swiftly. So this is a must have.
 

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