GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[brockie]

I am wondering: Has any seasoned driver perhaps done some observations about whether time of day has any influence or not? (- on how dirty races are.)

I always enjoy an early morning stint, not too early or you get mixed with A+ drivers 😁

Sunday morning particularly seems to yield the best results and Sunday generally I would say but maybe everyone is learning it’s the last day of the week for racing! 😆

 

[newmedia_dev]

I always enjoy an early morning stint, not too early or you get mixed with A+ drivers 😁

Sunday morning particularly seems to yield the best results and Sunday generally I would say but maybe everyone is learning it’s the last day of the week for racing! 😆

I agree, typically through the weekdays as well when the kids are at school.

Saturday nights and Sunday nights tend to be the worse in the B/cusp A lobbies I find.

 

[PirovacBoy]

You're far too kind, I'd give that one a 4/10 tops 😂

This one was about a 9 🤣

You know what's really disturbing... 👀
That you actually really seem to exactly know how to initialize these insanities as weel as making profit out this lunacy 🤣

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

You know what's really disturbing... 👀
That you actually really seem to exactly know how to initialize these insanities as weel as making profit out this lunacy 🤣

You have to be ready to try these things. Don't want to go into sector 1 with cold tyres, you'll be sliding all over the place!

 

[Childe Roland]

For me, Nurburgring GP turned worst than Fuji with the todays standards in sportmanship.
Turn 1 is an obvious problem but is not the only one.

Turn 3 in the Mercedes arena is a festival for punters and dive bombers on the inside (that is not a gap!).
Lot of people looking to dive on the inside of the hairpin no matter what and let alone those who think that push to pass is a valid move.

I didnt have any fun yesterday and I dont see daily B or A as an option for me this week.

 

[ElectricNaz]

I found it rough going yesterday either by suicide or just the nature of essentially a street circuit race that's only 4 laps long that encourages/panics people in to pushing to hard to make progress

Genuinely annoying for me because I'm brave and love the twisty bits! I trust the lambo to turn more when I put my foot (index finger) down in lower gears haha. Not the best Qualy lap but in race mode I'm on it

Only suicide I've had is the exit of the first corner in the first toast complex (can't remember who first named that here) and only that was a slight brushing of crumbs. It's so good when you get it perfect

 

[Jflijohn]

I am wondering: Has any seasoned driver perhaps done some observations about whether time of day has any influence or not? (- on how dirty races are.)

Well, I’m far from seasoned however, I have logged quite a few mile in the last year. I’m retired so I have the ability to race at any time throughout a 24 hour day, and I’ve done so.

I think your question has a few variables, the first being the level of driver. There is a huge difference between a bad A/+A driver and a bad C/D driver (bad C/D drivers can’t drive and can be VERY malicious). My main goal isn’t to advance DR, it’s to get to a level where the drivers main concern is racing as opposed to how many cars they can wreck.

The second part of the question is what exactly are you trying to avoid, malicious angry drivers or really good drivers.

Early afternoon I begin to see some fairly malicious driving in the high C/low B lobbies.

If I’m racing in the morning or mid afternoon my QT is usually good for a top 3 on the grid. As the time progresses to 7:00-8:00 PM (West coast-US GMT-8) the really good drivers seem to come out and my QT starts slipping down the grid pretty low, at that point, I’m pretty much just an impediment on the track and it’s time to go do something else. I don’t mind not winning but I hate being in the way.

Late at night when there are fewer drivers to fill a room, I’ve been in races that may have 3 levels of drivers with disparities in QT as high as 4-5 seconds.

There are also differences in week day vs weekend

My main goal is to stay at a B or high C just because the racing is cleaner, I usually try to race before noon.

I had a race yesterday at Nurburgring, I was fighting for 7th with the same car, for 3 laps in a row he tried passing me in the chicane. All 3 passes were clean (I didn’t think that was possible) with no bumping or wrecks. That’s what I’m looking for.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I really really need to give PD and Fanatec more credit than I do.

Typically I will bash them both a bit but also rationalise some of the decisions they make etc.

But this is where they definitely know their stuff. I set up a profile on my DD pro (S3) and used the settings in the patch notes and I'll be honest they know better than I do what feels good on the wheel both for the game and for the hardware.

Very little notching (especially compared to my previous settings), good weight but I manage my personal prefs in the FFB in game strength, little to no oscillation (everyone's mileage varies on this though) and good weighted balance.

Good enough for a sub 2min Nurbs lap and sub 2mins Trial Mountain lap.

So credit where it's not only due but very muchly highlighting they definitely know more than I do about wheel settings.

Edit: grrr what could have been with hollo (@Metalgear9493 towing me round)

 

[Raven-Sport]

I am wondering: Has any seasoned driver perhaps done some observations about whether time of day has any influence or not? (- on how dirty races are.)

As other have said, I find Friday and Saturday nights to be the most crazy... maybe because alot of us partake in adult beverages.

 

[Rossell2]

Saturday morning, as in 3am ish is always a good one too because everyone's back from wherever and are completely sloshed.

 

[SPURS3420]

wrong forum, please remove

 

[Voodoovaj]

I really really need to give PD and Fanatec more credit than I do.

Typically I will bash them both a bit but also rationalise some of the decisions they make etc.

Fanatec may be worried about bigger issues

https://gamerant.com/how-fanatec-bankruptcy-affect-sim-racing-world/

 

[newmedia_dev]

wrong forum, please remove

Wrong remove. Please forum

 

[benjoi84]

Saturday morning, as in 3am ish is always a good one too because everyone's back from wherever and are completely sloshed.

Sometimes, when I get home (from my bar job) late, i just stay away from Sport Mode.

It's a shame because I'm usually in the mood for a race at that time.

 

[Childe Roland]

This is the first lap of the top lobby in american server (10 pm).
10 A+/S drivers 6 A/S drivers.
If this is what it is at the top, cant imagine how fun lower lobbies should be.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is the first lap of the top lobby in american server (10 pm).
10 A+/S drivers 6 A/S drivers.
If this is what it is at the top, cant imagine how fun lower lobbies should be.

You can see some differences, lots of sniping at each other but not any street justice being dished out.

The car control is generally better i.e going over the grass and not spinning. Everyone made T1 and the hairpin.

Not as advert for NA servers though....

 

[brockie]

good take on it,

A drivers on the edge of grip and bumping around each other but as you say (which made me laugh) no street justice dished out

 

[Rossell2]

Just thinking, how difficult would it be for a daily race that was basically "race what you bring". Set a PP limit say 500/600/700. No tuning or wide cars, set the same tyres. There's a 90 second timeout end of the race. It would certainly get us to drive some of the road cars.

 

[Capt_Bromhead]

Just thinking, how difficult would it be for a daily race that was basically "race what you bring". Set a PP limit say 500/600/700. No tuning or wide cars, set the same tyres. There's a 90 second timeout end of the race. It would certainly get us to drive some of the road cars.

This absolutely, so many options. Said it before Brands Hatch PP 600 Max Euro Road cars, would be great.

Additionally to help encourage better sportsmanship and driving i have wondered that if you made Race C SR S only, Race B SR A&S only, and Race A SR all you would then tier peoples access to daily races based upon SR hopefully forcing people to drive cleaner to access Race B & C leading to better races overall. I doubt this would work due to player count and another Daily would probably be needed, might be contentious be would encourage a bit more sense in peoples racecraft.

 

[benjoi84]

good take on it,

A drivers on the edge of grip and bumping around each other but as you say (which made me laugh) no street justice dished out

It's quite funny. One of the things I like to do when rewatching old replays is check out how different people react to being nudged or bumped. In my experience it's quite a 50/50 split between calm 'no reaction, just keep racing' and 'I'm gonna ruin this guy's day'.

 

[Rossell2]

This absolutely, so many options. Said it before Brands Hatch PP 600 Max Euro Road cars, would be great.

Additionally to help encourage better sportsmanship and driving i have wondered that if you made Race C SR S only, Race B SR A&S only, and Race A SR all you would then tier peoples access to daily races based upon SR hopefully forcing people to drive cleaner to access Race B & C leading to better races overall. I doubt this would work due to player count and another Daily would probably be needed, might be contentious be would encourage a bit more sense in peoples racecraft.

Definitely would be up for that if perhaps they expanded to three different races per SR tier. This all came about for me BTW because I raced that Honda lawnmower thing on the Nurburgring and it was so much fun I wish it had a race 😂

 

[Talon16]

This is the first lap of the top lobby in american server (10 pm).
10 A+/S drivers 6 A/S drivers.
If this is what it is at the top, cant imagine how fun lower lobbies should be.

In fairness, the guy in the Genesis never stood a chance once he applied a Stroll livery to the car.

 

[Childe Roland]

Not as advert for NA servers though....

To be fair not all the races are like this but this track encourages the "elbows out" kind of driving when you have 2 or 3 bad apples in the lobby causing chaos all around.

lots of sniping at each other but not any street justice being dished out.

Retaliation in the form of a "torpedo rammer" is something very unusual at this level.
Dirty drivers here have a more "sophisticated" approach to make some "justice"

 

[Bobvita]

Definitely would be up for that if perhaps they expanded to three different races per SR tier. This all came about for me BTW because I raced that Honda lawnmower thing on the Nurburgring and it was so much fun I wish it had a race 😂

I wonder how it would be if they hid DR and used SR as the only visible matchmaking filter. DR would still be in works behind the scenes. In general, I see better racing when DR is not on the table in a race A. This week for ex, I've had 4-5 great tough/fair races with several drivers in race A. Last night I'm in race C with some of the same people and they are now divebombing and trying to nudge people off on straights.

 

[mellofello9]

I wonder how it would be if they hid DR and used SR as the only visible matchmaking filter. DR would still be in works behind the scenes. In general, I see better racing when DR is not on the table in a race A. This week for ex, I've had 4-5 great tough/fair races with several drivers in race A. Last night I'm in race C with some of the same people and they are now divebombing and trying to nudge people off on straights.

This is a great point. Was having some amazing races last week in A (haven't raced any yet this week) because of situations that would NOT happen if DR was on. Four-wide through T1 at Tokyo ain't gonna work when one of y'all is more worried about being demoted if they lose a position.

And I'm not sure about everyone else, but I am WAY more relaxed with DR off. You wanna pass? Rock-on, I'll even open the door for you.😇

 

[brockie]

It's quite funny. One of the things I like to do when rewatching old replays is check out how different people react to being nudged or bumped. In my experience it's quite a 50/50 split between calm 'no reaction, just keep racing' and 'I'm gonna ruin this guy's day'.

I guess we’ve all been there, only this morning I was having a perfectly nice race at TM, took the inside first corner and me and this guy are going around both T1&2 side by side, and he just left swipes me into the rocks, like cheers dude! Let’s say I couldn’t let that go 🤨 karma always comes around and you meet up later on and a little nudge on the last corners is all it takes to equalise things

 

[newmedia_dev]

And I'm not sure about everyone else, but I am WAY more relaxed with DR off. You wanna pass? Rock-on, I'll even open the door for you.😇

This is a very good point, but that attitude should apply with DR on as well. It's the approach and attitude that is the difference. Sensible space is given, no over protecting or "going defensive" constantly.

With that all in mind is that it's the sense of skin in the game that keeps the tension for me, we are racing after all.

And as much as I do moan for the amount of races I do most are fine/clean.

There is also that in DR higher lobbies the pace is mega, you have to be close to your QT pace in race with traffic which is part of the challenge, then at that pace plan passes or better lines etc.

It's all relative but as I've said before there is a yin to every yang on these things

 

[Gurzu]

Hi, just shared one average race at Tokyo last weekend. I was already fuming like a demon at 4th corner and by the end of the race I was giving some payback, which I'm not proud of. In these cases it is preferable to stop playing (even for few moments). I put it as a sort of rule. Never drive (but particularly race) under rage. Especially cause, in the end, it's your free time (hopefully of a good quality). Let's say that if your chillout time becomes stressful there's something wrong.

 

[Jflijohn]

This is a great point. Was having some amazing races last week in A (haven't raced any yet this week) because of situations that would NOT happen if DR was on. Four-wide through T1 at Tokyo ain't gonna work when one of y'all is more worried about being demoted if they lose a position.

And I'm not sure about everyone else, but I am WAY more relaxed with DR off. You wanna pass? Rock-on, I'll even open the door for you.😇

I agree, I have no fear of racing a higher DR however, I do respect QT. I’ve raced some nights recently against DR A drivers that I don’t mind challenging. I’ve also recently raced off hours when they were having troubles filling rooms. Qualifying times had a range of 4-5 seconds top to bottom. This tells me, not only are you seasoned enough to have a DR A rating but, you also have a better approach to this track/ car combination than I do.
As long as you aren’t sand-bagging for cheap wins, QT earns my respect.

 

[newmedia_dev]

The problem with "payback" is age old, with everyone just being to carry on the next race you build race destroying grudges, get known as someone involved in incidents etc.

Yeah we can all Pitt someone, we can leave it in a bit but in all honesty the more you do the more you race the same people you want to be the one people respect and give room too because they have seen you do it.

We talk about the meme driver but when he is ok with people in the lobby he is fine 🤷‍♂️ when people want payback it screws everyone's race innocent by standers and all.

Unintended consequences but consequences none the less