GTP Race Event 02 - Discussion Thread

[EDK]

Is race event 3 planned?

Slow down.

We need to discuss upcoming events and projects among the race admin team.

Stay tuned. 👍

 

[steven]

The final races will take place coming Saturday at 1030 GMT at Suzuka with the 5 division champions.
I will set up a private room in the racebox (GTP chat room) to discuss race specifics with the finalists.
We will start at the 40 second mark in reverse division order.
If we don't find each other in the line-up, the race will be cancelled unless one of the driver is host. In that case he will sit out the race and a restart will be agreed upon thru contact in the racebox.
The next race (two and three) will be agreed upon thru the racebox as soon as possible after the first race.
I will keep score of the race points deserved in each race: 5 for first place, 4 for second place, etc.
After the finish of the last race, after contact and agreement with all participants, I will contact the race steward with the outcome of the races.

this all, at least, if the other finalists agree to this

 

[EDK]

The final races will take place coming Saturday at 1030 GMT at Suzuka with the 5 division champions.
I will set up a private room in the racebox (GTP chat room) to discuss race specifics with the finalists.
We will start at the 40 second mark in reverse division order.
If we don't find each other in the line-up, the race will be cancelled unless one of the driver is host. In that case he will sit out the race and a restart will be agreed upon thru contact in the racebox.
The next race (two and three) will be agreed upon thru the racebox as soon as possible after the first race.
I will keep score of the race points deserved in each race: 5 for first place, 4 for second place, etc.
After the finish of the last race, after contact and agreement with all participants, I will contact the race steward with the outcome of the races.

this all, at least, if the other finalists agree to this

You are running at 10:30 PM, GMT, correct?

If so, I will be able to attend.

 

[Marooned]

The final races will take place coming Saturday at 1030 GMT at Suzuka with the 5 division champions.
I will set up a private room in the racebox (GTP chat room) to discuss race specifics with the finalists.
We will start at the 40 second mark in reverse division order.
If we don't find each other in the line-up, the race will be cancelled unless one of the driver is host. In that case he will sit out the race and a restart will be agreed upon thru contact in the racebox.
The next race (two and three) will be agreed upon thru the racebox as soon as possible after the first race.
I will keep score of the race points deserved in each race: 5 for first place, 4 for second place, etc.
After the finish of the last race, after contact and agreement with all participants, I will contact the race steward with the outcome of the races.

this all, at least, if the other finalists agree to this

👍 well said Steven.

Marooned

 

[steven]

You are running at 10:30 PM, GMT, correct?

If so, I will be able to attend.

Sorry for being unclear. Yes, 1030 GMT in the PM. Nice to have you with us, Kevin 👍

 

[EDK]

Sorry for being unclear. Yes, 1030 GMT in the PM. Nice to have you with us, Kevin 👍

No problem, I just don't want to sign up for being up at 2:30 am.

 

[Nicko]

The final races will take place coming Saturday at 1030 GMT at Suzuka with the 5 division champions.
I will set up a private room in the racebox (GTP chat room) to discuss race specifics with the finalists.
We will start at the 40 second mark in reverse division order.
If we don't find each other in the line-up, the race will be cancelled unless one of the driver is host. In that case he will sit out the race and a restart will be agreed upon thru contact in the racebox.
The next race (two and three) will be agreed upon thru the racebox as soon as possible after the first race.
I will keep score of the race points deserved in each race: 5 for first place, 4 for second place, etc.
After the finish of the last race, after contact and agreement with all participants, I will contact the race steward with the outcome of the races.

this all, at least, if the other finalists agree to this

Sounds great. 👍

 

[Anghammarad]

Good luck to all competitors. Looking forward to seeing the videos and hearing the reports from the races.

An extra special cheer to Sauber-F1 of course who was the one who beat me. Make me proud now...

 

[steven]

Yesterday evening (GMT time) we had our final races. Kevin, Jack and Daniel were present to steward or observe.
It took a while before we found all of each other online in the first race, but after that there were no online problems.
During all 3 races we were hindered by traffic and punters, in such a way that the 3rd race even had to be restarted.
All finalists behaved very properly and tried to avoid paint swapping to the bare minimum.
Results:

div. 1 MAY 1 (5) 1 (5) 1 (5): 15 points
div. 3 NIC 3 (3) 2 (4) 2 (4): 11 points
div. 2 SAU 2 (4) 4 (2) 3 (3): 9 points
div. 5 MAR 4 (2) 3 (3) 4 (2): 7 points
div. 4 BIG 5 (1) 5 (1) 5 (1): 3 points

Obviously MeAgainstYou is the champion of the event, I had absolutely no right to be among these champions and Marooned was the big surprise of the evening to even threat the Division 2 champion while being Division 5 himself. Also Nick proved it was a good thing he was promoted to Division 2 the other day 👍

I want to thank Kevin for organising this great event and all others to make this into a great tournament

 

[Nicko]

Excellent write-up Bigracer 👍 Thanks to Kevin for organising this fantastic event and making it all possible, and cheers to all the competitors for the great final races.

 

[Paulie]

Congratulations to all, well done Nicko for flying the Aussie flag.

 

[MeAgainstYou]

This was one of the well organized events i've ever been so far... Thanks to GTP organizers, stewarts... but specially to Kevin (EDK) that was the major of the event! Credits for you man

Congrats to all that participate on this event! there're no losers.. we always learn something no matter the results and we'll get better with that 👍

and ofcourse a special congrats to the division champions for their achieves on the event

about the final races: was a pleasure to race the division champions... was very funny and exciting with spectators, stewarts and all... really nice (i wish private rooms soon )

 

[Hyper-Dan]

Nice right up guys, great racing and great fun to be there to watch the final races. Hats off to Kevin for organizing such a great event. And well done to all of you Finalists.

 

[Marooned]

Yesterday evening (GMT time) we had our final races. Kevin, Jack and Daniel were present to steward or observe.
It took a while before we found all of each other online in the first race, but after that there were no online problems.
During all 3 races we were hindered by traffic and punters, in such a way that the 3rd race even had to be restarted.
All finalists behaved very properly and tried to avoid paint swapping to the bare minimum.
Results:

div. 1 MAY 1 (5) 1 (5) 1 (5): 15 points
div. 3 NIC 3 (3) 2 (4) 2 (4): 11 points
div. 2 SAU 2 (4) 4 (2) 3 (3): 9 points
div. 5 MAR 4 (2) 3 (3) 4 (2): 7 points
div. 4 BIG 5 (1) 5 (1) 5 (1): 3 points

Obviously MeAgainstYou is the champion of the event, I had absolutely no right to be among these champions and Marooned was the big surprise of the evening to even threat the Division 2 champion while being Division 5 himself. Also Nick proved it was a good thing he was promoted to Division 2 the other day 👍

I want to thank Kevin for organising this great event and all others to make this into a great tournament

1st of all big thanks to Kevin for such a tournament it was really fun starting with the lovely M3 and the big surprise after the tuned Skyline coupe at DR and finishing up in BOND's car

MAY you're a class of your own and sorry for sitting like a duck, 3rd race last curve of lap 1, I lost control.

Nick and Sauber, sorry for blocking you both a couple of times, I was trying to defend my racing line

Steven...Thanks for the practice sessions though all of them I was using the six-axis, and for your nice words. You made me blush

Don't say you have no right being among us, you're one of the best and respectful racers I've met and you deserve to be among us, you've beaten me while practicing

Thanks a lot for all who made this event so exciting and I'm looking forward for Event 03...can't wait

all
Haitham

 

[RSwagoneer]

Yesterday evening (GMT time) we had our final races. Kevin, Jack and Daniel were present to steward or observe.
It took a while before we found all of each other online in the first race, but after that there were no online problems.
During all 3 races we were hindered by traffic and punters, in such a way that the 3rd race even had to be restarted.
All finalists behaved very properly and tried to avoid paint swapping to the bare minimum.
Results:

div. 1 MAY 1 (5) 1 (5) 1 (5): 15 points
div. 3 NIC 3 (3) 2 (4) 2 (4): 11 points
div. 2 SAU 2 (4) 4 (2) 3 (3): 9 points
div. 5 MAR 4 (2) 3 (3) 4 (2): 7 points
div. 4 BIG 5 (1) 5 (1) 5 (1): 3 points

Obviously MeAgainstYou is the champion of the event, I had absolutely no right to be among these champions and Marooned was the big surprise of the evening to even threat the Division 2 champion while being Division 5 himself. Also Nick proved it was a good thing he was promoted to Division 2 the other day 👍

I want to thank Kevin for organising this great event and all others to make this into a great tournament

Congrats too the final drivers and the winner.
Nice too see that Marooned did well.

Big 👍 to all who participated in event 2 and to tose who organized it.

Can't wait til event 3 comes around

Bryan

 

[Synwraith]

Congratulations to Bruno, a thoroughly deserving and worthy champion in any competition. You're a first class racer, hotlapper, tuner and general forum member. Well done champion

A massive well done also to Marooned and Aussienicko for your performances above and beyond your original divisions. Excellent achievements 👍

All the best
Maz

 

[Marooned]

Thanks a lot MAZ for your nice words.

Been trying to improve since our race

 

[Sauber-F1]

Big compliment to the organizer and all the pilots. this has been a great event throughout 👍
special congratulations to Nick, who took my chance for 2nd place on the last lap with a nice move through the 130R. I was leading in the last race with a good margin, but I drove cautious becaus I didn't want to make a mistake. over the finish line I was just a little more than a car lengs behind. well done you deserve 2nd place

although I have to add something: (don't think I'm a bad loser. I just want clarification to an issue which was bothering me)
We rerun the last race because Nick was hampered by an other non participating driver.
In race 2, I was punted off track by another car twice. I lost at least 1 place because of that incident. should I have asked for a rerun too? I didn't because thats what everybody has to live with in online racing. either we should do reruns till there is no incident with non participating cars (which car be very time consuming) or no reruns at all.
what are your thoughts concerning this issue? offcourse I hope this issue becomes obsolete soon when we have privat races, but till then we have to handle it as fair as possible.

cheers
Sauber-F1

 

[EDK]

although I have to add something: (don't think I'm a bad loser. I just want clarification to an issue which was bothering me)
We rerun the last race because Nick was hampered by an other non participating driver.
In race 2, I was punted off track by another car twice. I lost at least 1 place because of that incident. should I have asked for a rerun too? I didn't because thats what everybody has to live with in online racing. either we should do reruns till there is no incident with non participating cars (which car be very time consuming) or no reruns at all.
what are your thoughts concerning this issue? offcourse I hope this issue becomes obsolete soon when we have privat races, but till then we have to handle it as fair as possible.

cheers
Sauber-F1

I asked for approval from all participants before proceeding with the final race, and I believe we had approval from all participants.

Either way, you and Aussienicko would have been tied, and needed a runoff race, which admittedly would not have involved as many drivers, but it would have been run, nonetheless.

 

[MeAgainstYou]

well.. ill tell you my opinion! stay clear that im not assuming neither part.

in that race we were all fighting for the 1st place... and thats important! it would be also unfair if the lotus bumped you or me no!? in that situations i try to feel the others skin... and in that race i think my victory lost the taste because of that you felt well with that!? and..

actually i saw nick beeing bumped again in the beginning of the last race but he was able to catch you and passed you.. so credits for him on that 👍 and we all agreed to re-race.. even you

btw.. i think you made a big mistake in your setup sauber.. because you're using wrong tyres... well at least thats what i think.. because you had no good speed but you were well on the S's ... so no one doubts about your driving skills but that choice wasnt the best on this races.. better luck next time m8

and just for the record.. thanks once again Maz. YOU ARE A GENTLEMAN!

 

[Sauber-F1]

I don't want to talk my results better. Nick clearly deserved 2nd place no doubt! 👍

The difficult situation is: Are you a sportsman or insist on your rights... I didn't want to be a poor sport so I had to agree.

And distinguish between "it's about victory" and "the incident was just on the back of the field" isn't a solution in my opinion.
I will just live with that issue till it solves itself.

 

[EDK]

I don't want to talk my results better. Nick clearly deserved 2nd place no doubt! 👍

The difficult situation is: Are you a sportsman or insist on your rights... I didn't want to be a poor sport so I had to agree.

And distinguish between "it's about victory" and "the incident was just on the back of the field" isn't a solution in my opinion.
I will just live with that issue till it solves itself.

I'm sorry that there was any issue at all. All of you are deserving of your places for your division.

The final format was more conducive to fun than competition.

I hope everyone had a good time, and I congratulate every one of the finalists for their participation and place in event 02.


Kevin

 

[MeAgainstYou]

i dont get it.. dont know why you're bringing that to here if we decided in the right time what to do...

anyway... sportsmanship, fairplay... always wins for me! better lose with respect that win in an unfairly and odd terms... i think the last table results shows very well the pace of each driver on the final.. fair enough 👍 but dont feel bad losing the final against nick man... you're the champion of div2 and thats a great achievement due the number of participants... well done my friend

I'm sorry that there was any issue at all. All of you are deserving of your places for your division.
The final format was more conducive to fun than competition.

no need to say more about this.. well said!

 

[Mad94d]

Congrats to MAY and all the finalists. Great to see an Aussie finish 2nd overall and fly the flag for Australia, Congrats Nick, fantastic result.👍

 

[Sauber-F1]

i dont get it.. dont know why you're bringing that to here if we decided in the right time what to do...

anyway... sportsmanship, fairplay... always wins for me! better lose with respect that win in an unfairly and odd terms... i think the last table results shows very well the pace of each driver on the final.. fair enough 👍 but dont feel bad losing the final against nick man... you're the champion of div2 and thats a great achievement due the number of participants... well done my friend

Sorry if I expressed myself unclear. I'm not questioning the result of the final round AT ALL!
I was questioning the general random decision of when to rerun a race and when not. I never ask for a rerun even if it means I lost the victory. and because I don't want to be a poor sport either I usualy agree when someone else requests a rerun. This way I always have a slight disadvantage.
Sure, if you benefit of someone else bad luck its not an enjoyable win either.
But in my opinion it should be the same for everybody.

I'm terribly sorry if I sound like a pain in the arse!
No offence!

 

[EDK]

Sorry if I expressed myself unclear. I'm not questioning the result of the final round AT ALL!
I was questioning the general random decision of when to rerun a race and when not. I never ask for a rerun even if it means I lost the victory. and because I don't want to be a poor sport either I usualy agree when someone else requests a rerun. This way I always have a slight disadvantage.
Sure, if you benefit of someone else bad luck its not an enjoyable win either.
But in my opinion it should be the same for everybody.

I'm terribly sorry if I sound like a pain in the arse!
No offence!

No problems from this end. Here's the chat transcript from that night, so all can see what weighed into the decision. The times are US Eastern Standard. I would likely not have authorized the re-run, if not for the fact that you and Nick were tied. I was up front about all 5 needing to agree. If I count the points from the last race as a 4th race, as opposed to a re-run, the results are the same. If that would make you feel any better.

18:48:37 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: had problems with a lotus
18:48:40 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: What happened?
18:48:41 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: guys have u seen the red f430
18:48:41 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: that elise was a problem
18:48:43 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: guys have u seen the red f430;9
18:48:46 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race:
18:48:47 [Join Roo m] bigracer -> event 02 final race
18:48:56 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: he was in the middle of the curve
18:48:58 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race:
18:49:04 [Message] Sauber-F1 -> event 02 final race: that elise was a shame
18:49:05 [Message] bigracer -> event 02 final race: scores?
18:49:05 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: i tried avoid
18:49:08 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: Need a quick rundown on places, and if here are any issues
18:49:10 [Message] Sauber-F1 -> event 02 final race: great race though
18:49:15 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: thats really bad luck nick
18:49:23 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: i can re-race this on for you 👍
18:49:34 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: I have MAY, Sauber, Nick, Marooned, Bigracer
18:49:45 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: yep that's unfair i was knocked off twice
18:49:56 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: We can re run if all 5 agree.
18:49:59 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: and i was 1st lap
18:50:05 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: my vote 👍
18:50:10 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: i'm ok with the re-run
18:50:15 [Message] GTP_Hyperspeed -> event 02 final race: Fair play and all
18:50:20 [Message] Sauber-F1 -> event 02 final race: well, i was also knockt off track in race 2
18:50:29 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: yeah let
18:50:32 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: 's rerun
18:50:57 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: i'm ok with the re-run?
18:51:02 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: Need votes form Bigracer and Sauber to re-run. No hard feelings either way.
18:51:02 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: :53?
18:51:22 [Message] bigracer -> event 02 final race: its got none to do with me so i'll settle for bottom place
18:51:24 [Message] GTP_Hyperspeed -> event 02 final race: Best to re run IMO 👍
18:51:42 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: sauber got a chance there
18:51:52 [Message] Sauber-F1 -> event 02 final race: it might cost me 2nd place. so i'm reluctently ok.
18:52:01 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: if we all agreed... than is vote is mandatory...
18:52:02 [Message] GTP_Hyperspeed -> event 02 final race: 1 min
18:52:12 [Message] GTP_Hyperspeed -> event 02 final race: If?......
18:52:33 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: re-race then?
18:52:37 [Message] Sauber-F1 -> event 02 final race: ok
18:52:40 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: ok
18:52:42 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: yeah @ 53
18:52:42 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: steven?
18:52:45 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: i'm ok
18:52:46 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: 53
18:52:48 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: 15secs
18:52:50 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: 10secs
18:52:55 [Message] bigracer -> event 02 final race: you all go, i'll watch
18:52:57 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: Well, currently Nick and Sauber are tied, so we would havbe to have a runoff no matter what
18:53:00 [Message] Sauber-F1 -> event 02 final race: in
18:53:00 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: in
18:53:02 [Message] Marooned -> event 02 final race: in
18:53:04 [Message] AUSnicko9 -> event 02 final race: in
18:53:07 [Message] GTP_Hyperspeed -> event 02 final race: in
18:53:07 [Message] EDK -> event 02 final race: in
18:53:35 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: Steven come
18:53:39 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: dont watch
18:53:49 [Message] bigracer -> event 02 final race: ok
18:53:56 [Message] MeAgainstYou -> event 02 final race: all guys count for this