GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 47 : Running in the Snow with a Topless French Girl
- Thread starter EDK
- 219 comments
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- 7,207
- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
Nice T1 indeed, surprised you don't go flat in those first two corners though. I hug the insides of both corners at full speed, tap the brake on entry to the long right-hander, from the outside to the apex and back to the outside again. From what I've seen I have higher speeds through those corners as well but on the first straight you're about .4 ahead of me
Obviously you've got it right down there.Anyway, first splits.
T1 - 48.811
T2 - 43.355
T3 - 1'25.446
As you can see, that 3rd sector needs a lot of work. Not sure what the optimum line is going through there, but I'm guessing that those really tight, long corners are doing the damage. From what I've gathered in the thread, the banked parts are off-limits as well so I'm pretty stumped on what to do here.
- 4,455
- Teesdale
- GTP_Vagabond
Chris - awesome! On my fastest lap I don't think I reached 130mph - you went over 140 - I think I need to get the engine broken in and sort the gearing out
Does the rear catch the barrier on the hard-right turn to end the sector?
Thanks Matt.
Got up to 142mph on the downhill there. No barrier touch believe it or not but I think that's about as close as it gets. 
Secunding Millross...
*Very* nice to see! 👍
I see you take some diffirent lines at some points.
Guess I'll have to try those too.
Thanks also Christophe
You can't use all the track in some bends - running wide to get a faster entry just loses you too much time and in some cases you lose traction as well.Actually most of my laps I am flat through both rights and the left in the first part if sector 1 but I wandered slightly wider on this lap and fell behind my ghost, then nailed the rest of the sector. In theory I can go another 0.15 to T1.
From what I've seen I have higher speeds through those corners as well but on the first straight you're about .4 ahead of me
There's nothing odd about it. Most time is made up through the double right at the top of the hill and the fast right at the bottom but its not just about apex speed, its about having the right line too.
- 1,303
- Thessaloniki
- anastasis14, GTP_Anastasis14
Guys, you should try using the mitsubishi Super rally car to thrash this TT... 5-6 people should be easily in the top 30 
Even myself managed to get to ~360th place 
Even myself managed to get to ~360th place 
- 2,376
- Stockholm, Swe
- GTP_Anghammarad
Very nice. Looks a bit dirty though at 45 s.
Anyway. Here are the latest splits that I remembered to save. I have a lap that is 4/10 quicker across the line that is currently floating in cyberspace.
I'm fairly confident that I can go half a second quicker still
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And here are the correct splits:
48.635
43.135
1'23.484
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- 4,455
- Teesdale
- GTP_Vagabond
Very nice. Looks a bit dirty though at 45 s.
Thanks Thomas 👍 Nice step up by yourself too mate
Its close there but it is clean I guarantee.Not that is matters now... gone quicker overall with a mix-up of split times:
48.599
42.913
1'23.400
Best 4th sector so far I think and definitely best 3rd sector. Looking for 0.5 in sector 1, 0.2 in sector 2.
I love this track 👍
- 2,624
- Sardinia, Italy
- papero1974
No, I guess you are not required to take photos of every inch of the grass surroundings, but Chamonix lacks a bit in green areas
I still can't understand why the well groomed area at corner 13 (comment on post 107) can't be considered track. I can't feel any boundary or see it at racing speeds. It's very different from the snow banks in the hairpin area, or the last esses (where car flies!!!), or anything like the photo in OP. But I see the red line in Speedy photos, and being an official interpretation of the rules, is enough for me, thanks 👍
I'll submit other splits when able to check all my replays. In the meanwhile, feel free to keep the actual one (99% dq) on the board or, better, delete it.
- 1,170
- USA
- GTP_DDiamond
Will have to check later.Energizerrr
(Banned)
- 1,115
Second 30 minute run, I'm seeing lots of time...
49.773
43.877
1'26.553
49.773
43.877
1'26.553
- 7,207
- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
- 630
- Michigan, USA
- GTP_MilleRSVR / MilleRSVR
Are you a Rally Alien, Blair?!
I guess so, a D3 alien anyway.
I'm rather surprised to be this high up the board. The weeks not over yet though.
Maybe living and driving in Michigan my whole life helps, we get our fair share of snow here. Did a lot of snowmobiling in the upper peninsula too, not sure that translates over to cars much though.
We should do more of these snow events, I kind of like them.
- 602
- Auburn, CA
- GTP_RaceRyder
Wes's updated tune, still my gears, more power after running car 9hrs.
50.497
45.561
1'26.913
50.497
45.561
1'26.913
- 2,624
- Sardinia, Italy
- papero1974
I made some photos all around the track and made some discovers, aside of former questionable points.
Here some of the infamous corner 13.
As you can see, the banked (off track) area starts in corner 12. In the 3rd photo I'm (off racing line, indeed) barely legal. I think you can judge that the sun exposed area is in, and shadow out. Real problem is the exit (in race line), where crest shadows fill the whole width of the track.
Looking at this, I still hope my onboard lap is clean. Will check it this afternoon after work.
Corner 19: entrance to the hairpins section, already showed in OP (corner 19 through 23)
Corner 19, again.
Corner 22: as you cut the raw snow area you will notice it immediately!
This is taken from T3 split spot, looking towards .
I didn't notice it when lapping, because on the other side of racing line, but the raised area on the right side of the track starts pretty before the esses!!!
Second picture taken a bit lower to enhance the contrast between track and off-track area
The evil esses step. You need sunglasses (or TV tweaking, as suggested by mate) to see it at racing speeds, but don't need force feedback to feel when you hit it by mistake
Indeed, a step similar to the one showed in OP.
Last corner: another awful one. How many of you were aware that this is a banked and stepped corner?
Here the car is completely off track, and dq, but before shooting this, I didn't notice the difference. Also have to check my replays if was avoiding the banking, or only felt the step (of the OP taste) where the Delta has right tires in.
I had to do it yesterday, before starting with the 307
Here some of the infamous corner 13.
As you can see, the banked (off track) area starts in corner 12. In the 3rd photo I'm (off racing line, indeed) barely legal. I think you can judge that the sun exposed area is in, and shadow out. Real problem is the exit (in race line), where crest shadows fill the whole width of the track.
Looking at this, I still hope my onboard lap is clean. Will check it this afternoon after work.
Corner 19: entrance to the hairpins section, already showed in OP (corner 19 through 23)
Corner 19, again.
Corner 22: as you cut the raw snow area you will notice it immediately!
This is taken from T3 split spot, looking towards .
I didn't notice it when lapping, because on the other side of racing line, but the raised area on the right side of the track starts pretty before the esses!!!
Second picture taken a bit lower to enhance the contrast between track and off-track area
The evil esses step. You need sunglasses (or TV tweaking, as suggested by mate) to see it at racing speeds, but don't need force feedback to feel when you hit it by mistake
Indeed, a step similar to the one showed in OP.
Last corner: another awful one. How many of you were aware that this is a banked and stepped corner?
Here the car is completely off track, and dq, but before shooting this, I didn't notice the difference. Also have to check my replays if was avoiding the banking, or only felt the step (of the OP taste) where the Delta has right tires in.
I had to do it yesterday, before starting with the 307
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- 379
- GTP_Sidplayos2
Updated splits, lost 0.4 in T3 but gained a tad over a second over the whole lap. Thanks for the video Chris, I can now be comfortably ahead of my ghost by the overhead bridge but a couple of car lengths, but get all cautious at the end of T1 now and loose it all 
So basically still the same T1 ..
48.985
43.257
1'24.951
48.774
43.438
1'24.892
Little bit slower, but improved in T4.
So basically still the same T1 .. 43.257
1'24.951
48.774
43.438
1'24.892
Little bit slower, but improved in T4.
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- 1,303
- Thessaloniki
- anastasis14, GTP_Anastasis14
Chris, what about making videos of other sectors too ?
- 16,271
- Boise, ID
- GTP_EDK
I made some photos all around the track and made some discovers, aside of former questionable points.
Here some of the infamous corner 13.
As you can see, the banked (off track) area starts in corner 12. In the 3rd photo I'm (off racing line, indeed) barely legal. I think you can judge that the sun exposed area is in, and shadow out. Real problem is the exit (in race line), where crest shadows fill the whole width of the track.
Looking at this, I still hope my onboard lap is clean. Will check it this afternoon after work.
Corner 19: entrance to the hairpins section, already showed in OP (corner 19 through 23)
Corner 19, again.
Corner 22: as you cut the raw snow area you will notice it immediately!
This is taken from T3 split spot, looking towards .
I didn't notice it when lapping, because on the other side of racing line, but the raised area on the right side of the track starts pretty before the esses!!!
Second picture taken a bit lower to enhance the contrast between track and off-track area
The evil esses step. You need sunglasses (or TV tweaking, as suggested by mate) to see it at racing speeds, but don't need force feedback to feel when you hit it by mistake
Last corner: another awful one. How many of you were aware that this is a banked and stepped corner?
Here the car is completely off track, and dq, but before shooting this, I didn't notice the difference. Also have to check my replays if was avoiding the banking, or only felt the step (of the OP taste) where the Delta has right tires in.
I had to do it yesterday, before starting with the 307
Thanks for the follow up and additional detail. I have a PM conversation with another member this morning, and took back to the track to get a better idea of what some of the questionable areas look like, from a drivers perspective. I was answering your questions yesterday just before getting ready for work, and while on the way to work (I don't drive in the morning). So getting on the game was not possible.
I have to agree that the boundaries we have been talking about are going to be difficult to determine as a driver, difficult to review as a replay checker, and difficult to enforce as an admin team.
I've made a clarification to the OP.
- Off track surfaces are those that have an abrupt curb that separates them from the main track surface. The pic below is one example of this, there are other areas of the track with the same feature, making the elevated area out of bounds.
- A smooth transition to an elevated area (banking) is OK to drive on, just don't make contact with objects.
Is that clear enough for everyone?
- 2,376
- Stockholm, Swe
- GTP_Anghammarad
I don't think I have ever run a combo where so much time is gained with each session. I have started the habit of keeping my first saved laps each week to compare that time with the submitted final time. I noticed yesterday that I am now a full 10 seconds quicker in my latest saved lap.
I particularly like a combo where it is the flow that makes a quick time and not like Rome reverse where it's only a matter of lucking out and missing the wall in one corner.
I particularly like a combo where it is the flow that makes a quick time and not like Rome reverse where it's only a matter of lucking out and missing the wall in one corner.
- 630
- Michigan, USA
- GTP_MilleRSVR / MilleRSVR
Latest splits, better T2, slower T3, better OA.
Might stay with this lap, I could still gain maybe .3 in T3. But getting harder to string 4 great sectors together when at or very near my limit.
A very tricky but fun combo. It's very rewarding to see the laps times fall consistently the more laps and tweaking I did. Sometimes I get frustrated in certain TT's and give up early. But in this event I seemed to keep finding more speed.
The line was very critical, like all events, but more so here. With limited grip, if you blew the entry to a corner (thus ruining the exit), there is no way to make it up. Throttle control was key also. (all pretty obvious stuff, but really crucial here).
Hopefully I can learn something from this and apply it to future tarmac events.
T1, 48.953
T2, 43.500
T3, 1'24.875
Might stay with this lap, I could still gain maybe .3 in T3. But getting harder to string 4 great sectors together when at or very near my limit.
A very tricky but fun combo. It's very rewarding to see the laps times fall consistently the more laps and tweaking I did. Sometimes I get frustrated in certain TT's and give up early. But in this event I seemed to keep finding more speed.
The line was very critical, like all events, but more so here. With limited grip, if you blew the entry to a corner (thus ruining the exit), there is no way to make it up. Throttle control was key also. (all pretty obvious stuff, but really crucial here).
Hopefully I can learn something from this and apply it to future tarmac events.
T1, 48.953
T2, 43.500
T3, 1'24.875
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