GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 47 : Running in the Snow with a Topless French Girl

[w-g-e]

Anyone knowing of a good setup?
I plan on doing this event...

I see Wes's, is it good?

*I'M A TOTAL NOOB AT TUNING SO I CAN'T JUDGE MYSELF*

I wouldn't take my gear ratio's as I still want to test with that. It could still be the fastest though, I don't know yet.
I won't change the suspension and LSD settings anymore so that's what I'll be running with until the end. I would try it first and if you like it then stick to it. I'm currently at the top (but not by much) so it's possible to go fast with.

 

[millross]

50.353
44.510
1'25.714

I'm pretty average at this, but it is a lot of fun. I dunno what I'm doing wrong in T1.

Oh the car is only at 50 miles too @ 215bhp

 

[GTP_RaceRyder]

Not too much time in this, but a better time!

52.381
45.766
1'28.530

 

[Energizerrr]

First clean run:

50.629
45.004
1'27.457


Just came back home from village and had a 30 minute stint using Wes's tune.
Looks like a nice week, athough I don't know if I'll have enough time to give it a shot (as soon as Christmas ends I'll have to be going back to the village, gotta do the exams and tests for my driver's licence woooohooo 👍).

 

[toymdngn]

Hectic last couple of days for me. Bob is breaking in the car right now running the first few events in the b-spec section. I'll be putting in some serious time on this event tomorrow.

 

[ClassicMini]

First clean lap and first splits with a wheel!

53.420
48.315
1'33.208

I need to practise with the wheel, it feels so difficult right now, I can't have a clean lap with manual gearbox.

 

[AspecBob]

50.532
45.429
1'26.749

I'm having doubts as to the legality of my lap, though. In some parts, for example, the distinction between wall and ground is not clear, the ground rising gradually to the wall. I might post a couple of pictures later.

Using Wes' tune so far, with top speed set to 230 km/h.

 

[toymdngn]

Wes's setup is crazy!! One second, it's pushing like crazy, the next second, it's oversteering like it just stepped out of an Initial D episode... haha!

 

[ClassicMini]

Some more struggle:

50.704
46.644
1'29.146

Realism Check:
Since I got the G27 (like 2 days ago) I experience the total realism in GT5
so from now on I'll always use the inside view, display off and the gearbox
will be controlled the same way as the car inside. Lucky me this car is automatic by default, if you notice the driver's hands never leave the wheel and there are no paddles.

 

[w-g-e]

Wes's setup is crazy!! One second, it's pushing like crazy, the next second, it's oversteering like it just stepped out of an Initial D episode... haha!

The key is to let the car float on corner entry, turn hard and step on the throttle as soon as possible.. The LSD makes sure you'll never spin the car on acceleration so don't be afraid when stepping on the throttle.
Hope it helps..

Edit: In some of the corners you can use the oversteer to 'push the car over its limit'...
Manage the throttle at 70/80/90% and turn hard.. The car will oversteer but its very controllable.. I use this technique in turn 1, turn 2, turn 3.. etc.

 

[GTP_RaceRyder]

Thanks Wes. your tune, my gears because of that Kmh thing!

50.769
45.159
1'28.658

 

[OZ]

First splits, trying wes's tune, thanks for posting!

T1 50.046
T2 44.877
T3 1'27.128

 

[AspecBob]

I would appreciate an opinion on the following picture. I'm pretty sure that it's clean, but in other parts of the track, the wall is also made of snow. I just wanted to make sure that only the vertical part is then considered to be part of the wall.

Also, am I correct in assuming that it is ok to have two wheels on a raised area, as long as the other two are on the track?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Speedy6543]

50.642
44.616
1'26.087

50.576
43.980
1'25.618

 

[Duck]

I would appreciate an opinion on the following picture. I'm pretty sure that it's clean, but in other parts of the track, the wall is also made of snow. I just wanted to make sure that only the vertical part is then considered to be part of the wall.

Also, am I correct in assuming that it is ok to have two wheels on a raised area, as long as the other two are on the track?

Thanks in advance!

First one seems to me the southernmost corner (looking at the map). I assumed it was a banked corner, as I don't see any steps. For the second photo I assumed 2 wheels on the rough are ok, like on every off-track area. The real pain in the beep is last esses, where the snow step is almost hidden.

For the first photo, anyway, I'm waiting a steward's comment too

 

[sidplayos2]

Also, am I correct in assuming that it is ok to have two wheels on a raised area, as long as the other two are on the track?

Thanks in advance!

Personally I think that's clean as long as you don't touch any invisible wall or the orange fence, but just to be safe i'm keeping two wheels on the flat surface just to be safe anyway.

I think the major place to find time is the right-left switchback just after that corner in the photo. Brake and turn in right earlier than you think and use the understeer to your advantage and you can almost straightline it there for the really long straight section afterwards.

Wes and Chris, what are you two up to in T1 almost a second ahead there? (besides nice throttle application of course) Best I can see is a 48.8xx there...

Although I tried Wes's gears, and for the first time in an event they don't actually suit me here. In rally I like the gears far apart, maybe just in my head, but helps to not spin the wheels as much for me. Standard 270kph working fine at the moment..

EDIT: Also a little tip, for those who find it hard to actually see where the bankings are, I turned the exposure all the way down (darker) to help clearly see the bankings better. Hope it might help others like me who are blind as a bat

 

[EDK]

From first post -

Main Road Surface Only is Track. See Detail Pics Below to Clarify Out of Bounds.

As mentioned, keep 2 wheels on the road and you will be fine. But 4 wheels on something that's not groomed and not clearly part of the normal road = Not fine.

I would prefer to see a high overhead shot (like the one in the first post) of any spots that you think are questionable in this regard.

I know it's a little bit fuzzy, but please understand, this is a very long track, and for us to take pics of every corner would make running an event here highly prohibitive.

 

[Allibubba99]

I used Wes's setup. I likey!

Al

50.473
45.922
1'27.466

 

[Duck]

From first post -

Main Road Surface Only is Track. See Detail Pics Below to Clarify Out of Bounds.

As mentioned, keep 2 wheels on the road and you will be fine. But 4 wheels on something that's not groomed and not clearly part of the normal road = Not fine.

I would prefer to see a high overhead shot (like the one in the first post) of any spots that you think are questionable in this regard.

I know it's a little bit fuzzy, but please understand, this is a very long track, and for us to take pics of every corner would make running an event here highly prohibitive.

Sorry, EDK, but imho you didn't answer the actual question. Event rules are quite clear, but in that corner there is no step between the flat surface and the banked one, which also have a fence delimitation quite close, and the banked section merges with continuity with flat track not far ahead; it also isn't the only banked corner we have there. I didn't (and I don't) see any reason to not consider this part of the track, according to the rules, if you not explicitely ban it. And if you do, I don't think will be only two times dq by this interpretation. Not at last is absolutely impossibile to me to judge where it is at racing speeds (not tried in slow motion....); I don't know if it's only me with this, but I pretend to see track limits, not just slow down and check after in a photo....

Latest splits, sub judice:
T1: 49.139
T2: 43.867
T3: 1'25.225

 

[EDK]

Sorry, EDK, but imho you didn't answer the actual question. Event rules are quite clear, but in that corner there is no step between the flat surface and the banked one, which also have a fence delimitation quite close, and the banked section merges with continuity with flat track not far ahead; it also isn't the only banked corner we have there. I didn't (and I don't) see any reason to not consider this part of the track, according to the rules, if you not explicitely ban it. And if you do, I don't think will be only two times dq by this interpretation. Not at last is absolutely impossibile to me to judge where it is at racing speeds (not tried in slow motion....); I don't know if it's only me with this, but I pretend to see track limits, not just slow down and check after in a photo....

I don't have to tell you every single area that isn't track. It's not like I take pictures of all the grass every week, to make sure people don't drive on it. I've defined what IS track, and that really should be good enough, anything else is clarification.

Speedy made these photos after I made the same comments in our admin thread that I made here. He didn't have any issue with understanding what a track surface was.

The track surface is going to be a relatively uniform width throughout, and I already said only the main road surface is track, and then made some pictures of some areas that could be exploited to gain significant time.

Again, if you would like to take some overhead pics and prove me wrong, showing that the area in question on the banking seems to fall within the general track surface, feel free to do so.

Otherwise, the red lines in the pics above represent the boundaries.

 

[MilleRSVR]

Slight improvement, still have a few tenths in me I think.

T1, 49.041
T2, 44.256
T3, 1'25.431

 

[ArtAnonim]

Last splits of mine... I don't like neither the car or the track, and I'm already too frustrated to try any more

T1: 50.837
T2: 45.985
T3: 1'27.590

T1 and T4 are better, T2 and T3 are much worse
Hope that I won't finish at the bottom of leaderboard
Edit: Wait a minute, I am already there -.-

 

[Vagabond]

Wes and Chris, what are you two up to in T1 almost a second ahead there? (besides nice throttle application of course) Best I can see is a 48.8xx there...

{starts to try and explain in words, loses track, forgets details, eventually gives up and goes to do a video of it}

New splits anyway:

48.101
42.886
1'23.943

A bit cautious through the last bend on sector 3 and then stopped for lunch through the last sector. Pretty damn pleased with sectors 1 and 2 though (until Wes comes back with a 47.8 and a 42.0 )

 

[MilleRSVR]

Best lap yet, starting to figure out T3. Still can gain a little in T1 & T2.

T1, 49.084
T2, 44.144
T3, 1'24.822

 

[w-g-e]

{starts to try and explain in words, loses track, forgets details, eventually gives up and goes to do a video of it}

New splits anyway:

48.101
42.886
1'23.943

A bit cautious through the last bend on sector 3 and then stopped for lunch through the last sector. Pretty damn pleased with sectors 1 and 2 though (until Wes comes back with a 47.8 and a 42.0 )

You asked for it.

T1: 48.340
T2: 42.700
T3: 1'23.527

My setup:

Max. Power: 221 BHP (260.8 km)
Weight: 1241 kg
Performance points: 422

Suspension:
Ride Height Adjustment: 45/-25 (max/min)
Spring Rate: 15.0/2.6 (max/min)
Dampers (Extension): 10/1 (max/min)
Dampers (Compresiion): 10/1 (max/min)
Anti-Roll Bars: 7/1 (max/min)
Camber Angle: 2.0/2.0
Toe Angle: -0.20/-0.20

LSD:
Initial torque: 5
Acceleration sensivity: 60
Braking Sensivity: 5

Transmission:
1st gear: 4719
2nd gear: 3500
3rd gear: 2750
4th gear: 2244
5th gear: 1905
Final gear: 2000
Max speed: 180 km/h

First move the final gear slider to 3000. Then move max speed all the way to the left (to 180 km/h) and adjust from there.

Brake settings and aids:
BB: 5/7
ABS: 1

Changes in red.
Yes Chris, I took your camber and toe values.

 

[Vagabond]

Haha nice one Wes. My best 2nd sector is 42.770... .700 is sweet. I keep backing off through the end of sector 3 when I'm on a good lap - well held there lad. 👍

 

[Biffy]

First 30 minutes on this combo and I should hopefully have some splits up soon.. Working on each sector one-by-one, atm I'm at 1'32.5xx by T2. Now to figure out the other sectors.

 

[AspecBob]

Speedy made these photos after I made the same comments in our admin thread that I made here. He didn't have any issue with understanding what a track surface was.

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Otherwise, the red lines in the pics above represent the boundaries.

Thanks Kevin for the clarification and Speedy for the pics, it's quite clear to me now.

As Paul (Duck) said, though, it IS very tempting to see that first case as simply a banked corner

 

[Gravitron]

My Montana upbringing is making me feel guilty about not giving this one a go yet. My driver's license test was in the snow, and sliding into ditches was a common pastime. Gotta get on it. 👍

 

[Vagabond]

Sector 1: