GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 53 : That's Monza ... with a 'Z'

[Carlos Fandango]

Indeed... Not that GT5's tyre mechanics have any basis in reality.

No reason they couldn't though. Hell, the numbers don't even have to represent anything, as long as the relation between the values across the tyre made sense...

14:14:16 --^-- 16:14:14

Reduce camber to give...

15:14:15 --^-- 15:14:15

Increase tyre pressure to give...

15:15:15 --^-- 15:15:15

Units of measure could be elephants for all I care, as long as 15:15:15 had more grip than 14:14:16 (assuming 15 elephants is the optimum operating range for that tyre).

If we can detect a change in performance when we alter camber settings, then the physics at a (perhaps) rudimentary level already exists and the game is already making similar alterations across a given axle when we make a change to the set-up. All PD need to do is work out a way to interpolate that into a GUI. Since Grand Prix Legends managed something similar 15 years ago, I don't think it's beyond the abilities of Kaz's team.

EDIT: just saw your note Chuk after writing the above. You'll notice that between the two set-ups I posted, the front camber has reduced from 2.2 to 2.0. I originally did it to try and improve braking (which I acheived) but it also gave me much more initial bite at turn-in, both of which suggest I'm using more of the tyre more effectively in both scenarios. Out of interest, I'm going to try Chris' rear camber setting tonight (without changing anything else) and see what it brings...

 

[Matty]

...

...Since Grand Prix Legends managed something similar 15 years ago, I don't think it's beyond the abilities of Kaz's team.

Even though there's only 6 in his team?

 

[chukabilly]

No reason they couldn't though. Hell, the numbers don't even have to represent anything, as long as the relation between the values across the tyre made sense...

That's what Kenny was saying. 👍

If camber doesn't affect tire wear, what does?!? GT5 seems to place more emphasis on suspension, so that your spring rate will have more effect than your camber [and I think we will find] and/or toe settings.

edit: I don't mean to say that suspension isn't important, but to have camber mean nothing to tire wear?

 

[AspecBob]

398hp, starting tune, ragged edge or control? Working on it!

Dale, the car should be at 459hp, maybe you forgot an upgrade? If you got it from the OCD, the engine should already be broken in.

(Also, a window weight reduction will bring it down to 1330kg.)

 

[CB750Kguy]

1st set of splits:

0:22.937
0:43.101

I'm definately having issues around Lesmos. This combination is quite a lot of fun.

 

[Matty]

Man, it's dawning on me now how gruelling this is. You want to stop, but you want to better your time cause you know you can improve it. And most of the time the latter overpowers the former and you keep going.

The old me before I joined this would get a time and say, "Well that'll do" but now I just have to keep going until I get that tenth..

And eventually I got another tenth, just another 6 tenths to go until I rest, depending on weather or not I find more time in the process.

I've often seen people saying how they need that 'magic lap' and it's so true. It's just so hard to tie the sectors seamlessly. 👎

But I'm loving every lap, great combo 👍 would love to see a week where we need FGT's on C1's

 

[GTP_RaceRyder]

Thank you segovia, missed a few things like window and engine upgrades. Duh! Division 4 was kicking my rear.

Segovias tune.

23.218
41.930

Al, what you doing up there on the leaderboard, have you been abducted by the aliens?

 

[jack5428]

Speedy Im loving this combo. The car feels like a kickass race car.👍

T1: 23.062
T2: 40.499




Heres my tune if anyone wants to try it.

15 -40
16 5
10 10
1 1
1 1
lsd 10 10 10
bb 0/0
camber 2.8 1.8
toe 0/0
trick tranny top speed 200mph

T1: 22.945
T2: 40.533

Edit: changed my camber to 1.5 1.5 crossed the line 7 tenths lower...somehow. Confused at the moment just how after watching the non spectacular replay.

 

[Allibubba99]

Vagabonds tune with ABS 8

Al

23.047
40.617

 

[Speedy6543]

Chris' tune
Still searching for a good set of lower gears

22.747
40.734

Edit:
Rutters tune with same gearbox as before

22.947
40.248

Might want to try and take away a tiny bit more understeer in this tune.
Nonetheless, Rutters tune suits me a bit better. It allows more full throttle coming out of the turn. 👍 and Thanks for the tune.

I love the do-or-die in that first turn.
Here I died.

 

[NINE_HUNDRED]

WRS bug..

And you get that every week

But we all love it

 

[masquerada]

Trying Jon's setup
T1 - 0.22.951
T2 - 0.40.856
Theres room for a little improvement if i can stop the rear sqirreling out of the second lesmo

 

[Carlos Fandango]

Al, what you doing up there on the leaderboard, have you been abducted by the aliens?

You shouldn't be so surprised Dale. Al has had some serious game recently. Go check out his final sector in the RX7 at Eiger - faster than any D2 or D3 final sector

Christophe, the only way I can tell that's not my car is that the wheels are a different colour

EDIT: new splits. PB in T1, dropped a tenth in T2, matched my T3 for half a tenth at the line

22.689
39.993

Was well up after Lesmo 1 but just got a little too unsettled through Lesmo 2 which meant I had to wait to get back on the power and then the ghostjust gained on me all the way to Ascari... Another few laps and then off to bed

EDIT2: tried Chris' rear camber at 2.0 - too much stability through the chicane, but awesome through Ascari. Turned it back to 1.5 to get back some movement. Seems promising but I'm too tired now. Looking for 0.2 on the lap, but I'd be content with half that.

Thanks Chris 👍

 

[Akmuq]

It's really hard not to be smug when you're not sure about a corner being clean, you go to check, and it is clean.

22.919
40.841

22.905
40.143

Edit: Yeah!!! 6th overall.

 

[Allibubba99]

Al, what you doing up there on the leaderboard, have you been abducted by the aliens?

Well I am happy to be back up on the leader board, I wish I had been abducted by the aliens I could use some of their talents!

I could not figure out that tank last week, I seriously thought my wheel was starting to have issues and was shopping for a G27! I am clearly having problems with heavier vehicles, the Masarati and the BMW M3 a few weeks back.

I also LOVE Monza! I was very excited to see Christophe's selection this week! No offense Lucas, I like the fact that your choice last week has given me something to work on and look forward to tonight's WRS race. I hate to say it Dale but I still see room for maybe another .5 secs off this weeks TT. Vagabond's (Is it Chris?) tune is stiff and I enjoy driving with it!

Al

 

[GTP_RaceRyder]

Congrats Al, I always like to see Division 4 up in 2 and 3. See you tonight.
Dale

 

[Dave_George]

22.883
40.503

Marginally better time at the line.

I'm preferring the Z with stock suspension system and much lower camber settings.


Edit:

Another few laps and some improvement for .250 at the line:

22.915
40.275

 

[BaguaL]

I'll give a try today after work.
Even with my break pedal messed up its a nice event to be on.

 

[w-g-e]

T1: 22.547
T2: 39.821
Your tunes are way too stable for me.

 

[DDiamond]

20-min break from work and tried the 6-speed close ratio transmission.

23.590
41.614

23.534
41.236


Still running the 6-speed close ratio transmission with some of Jack's settings. Thanks, Jack! 👍


Back to the real job!

EDIT: , the The limiter blew up!

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

Improvement on my final lap of the night. Still not happy though so hopefully more to come.

22.600
39.874

Tried Chris's tune as his normally works great for me but for some reason I just didn't get on with it this time. Will try some of the others that have been posted!

 

[veightpower]

Not too shabby for 10-15 laps, that chicane is destroying my times once i crack the entry to that i'll be good.

23.341
42.256

Still to properly set the car up, still ganing time from learning the track. This suits me more than the last couple. I aim to do better this week.

 

[leero29]

23.426
41.485

My very first wrs time trial ... we can do better than that!

 

[DDiamond]

Wee bit more.........

23.687
40.896

 

[kitesurfer]

only had time for a few laps so far

22.815
41.681

 

[2smokes]

23.529
41.985

First clean lap! I'm chasing my ghost that's on SS tires and spending alot of time in the kitty litter!

 

[Matty]

23.529
41.985

First clean lap! I'm chasing my ghost that's on SS tires and spending alot of time in the kitty litter!

That's a good idea for improving lap times actually, never heard or thought of that before

 

[BaguaL]

23.835
40.946

I need to get some tunes to keep going.
I'll give a try tomorrow.

 

[the_wilco]

First splits. Using mostly Jack's tune.

22.979
41.140

 

[GTP_RaceRyder]

New times Vagabond tune.

23.023
41.398