GTP_WRS-Online : 2013 WRS World Cup Team Challenge - Aug 10
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OK, we'll look for his submission. He's not listed in the Official GTP_Registry so we'll have to wait for his qualifier time/replay submission and then he'll be good to go and I'll add him to PURE Sweden.
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Hi Tim and the rest of the WRS crew.
We've been discussing across all PURE teams to enter this race with the same body color, but use different colors on the wheels depending on the team.
And Erik (eran0004) designed our logotypes as well.
Below, I've only inserted the PURE Sweden logo and car.
The other teams rims and logos will be posted once they decide on the exact colors for the wheels.
Looks like PURE EU will use blue, and PURE NA will use red.
Body (for all PURE teams):
Lamborghini Aventadore LP700-4 - Grigio Estoque
Wheels (for the Swedish team):
Ferrari 512 BB - Gold Poly
Looks like this:
We've been discussing across all PURE teams to enter this race with the same body color, but use different colors on the wheels depending on the team.
And Erik (eran0004) designed our logotypes as well.
Below, I've only inserted the PURE Sweden logo and car.
The other teams rims and logos will be posted once they decide on the exact colors for the wheels.
Looks like PURE EU will use blue, and PURE NA will use red.
Body (for all PURE teams):
Lamborghini Aventadore LP700-4 - Grigio Estoque
Wheels (for the Swedish team):
Ferrari 512 BB - Gold Poly
Looks like this:
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- Speedy6543
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Speedy, I think that's what Ph1sher meant by his "qualifying time"... we should find out shortly. 
Ph1sher, we need at least one more driver on Team USA so glad you will join us. Once the WRS admin staff get your qualifier times and your replays you'll get a provision division via PM.
At that point head over [check in] to the following thread for team USA organization/activities which should kick up next week:
2013 WRS World Cup : Team USA Discussions
Ph1sher, we need at least one more driver on Team USA so glad you will join us. Once the WRS admin staff get your qualifier times and your replays you'll get a provision division via PM.
At that point head over [check in] to the following thread for team USA organization/activities which should kick up next week:
2013 WRS World Cup : Team USA Discussions
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- GTP_Ph1sh
WRP001Speedy, I think that's what Ph1sher meant by his "qualifying time"... we should find out shortly.
Ph1sher, we need at least one more driver on Team USA so glad you will join us. Once the WRS admin staff get your qualifier times and your replays you'll get a provision division via PM.
At that point head over [check in] to the following thread for team USA organization/activities which should kick up next week:
2013 WRS World Cup : Team USA Discussions
Really? Awesome!! Thanks guys!! About to start my qualifying lap here. 👍
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See GTP WRS - GT5 - Replay and Photo Upload/Download Guide for information on how to export and zip a replay to prepare it for email.
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Announcement: We are proposing a "tweak" to the base points system where the points earned for non podium finishing positions is a function of the number of drivers in the lounge.
Why?
It's highly likely that we will have 15 teams for this event (not 16). That means each round will have three lounges of 4 teams and one lounge of 3 teams. Several teams have only 3 drivers now and that number might increase on race day with last minute cancellations, etc. Further, the lounge assignment system is based on qualification for round 1 and results for round 2 so the race organizers can't "engineer" the rooms to have an even (or close to even) number of drivers. In other words, it's possible one lounge could have as few as 10-11 drivers while another lounge could have 16 (that's an extreme case).
The purpose of this tweak is to address any unfair advantage drivers may have from drawing a lounge with fewer drivers. This advantage is present in most point systems, but is being addressed for this event because the impact is potentially exacerbated by the driver handicap multiplier.
Example:
If a room has only 11 drivers (3 teams: 4 + 4 + 3) and a D4 driver with a 3.2x multiplier can finish no lower than 11th just by starting the race. Even if he has a bad race and finished multiple laps behind, under the original point system, he is guaranteed 6 base points X 3.2 multiplier = 19.2 points. A D2 driver with a 1.3 multiplier would have to finish on the podium to match those points -- even in another lounge of 16 drivers which would be very hard to achieve.
New BASE Points Table (before handicap multiplier):
The points table above reflects a point system where the base points earned is a function of the number of drivers in the lounge. The top 3-4 positions earn fixed points regardless of room size: a top finish in any lounge earns the same amount of points. Therefore, teams assigned to small lounges still have a chance to earn maximum points. Starting with position 5 however, the points earned drops as the number of drivers in the lounge drops.
This, or any other system, is not perfect, but we feel this is an improvement and addresses a flaw in the original proposed point system. If we manage to get 16 teams and most teams have 4 drivers the system reverts back to the original (or very close) and that will be our goal in any case.
Feedback welcome.
EDIT: Also note that in round 1 the #1 seeded team (based on quali) will be in the lounge with 3 teams if we have 15 teams (seeds #1, #8, #9). In round 2, the lowest bracket will have 3 teams. Almost all other lounges should be between 13-15 drivers where the points are very similar to the original system.
Why?
It's highly likely that we will have 15 teams for this event (not 16). That means each round will have three lounges of 4 teams and one lounge of 3 teams. Several teams have only 3 drivers now and that number might increase on race day with last minute cancellations, etc. Further, the lounge assignment system is based on qualification for round 1 and results for round 2 so the race organizers can't "engineer" the rooms to have an even (or close to even) number of drivers. In other words, it's possible one lounge could have as few as 10-11 drivers while another lounge could have 16 (that's an extreme case).
The purpose of this tweak is to address any unfair advantage drivers may have from drawing a lounge with fewer drivers. This advantage is present in most point systems, but is being addressed for this event because the impact is potentially exacerbated by the driver handicap multiplier.
Example:
If a room has only 11 drivers (3 teams: 4 + 4 + 3) and a D4 driver with a 3.2x multiplier can finish no lower than 11th just by starting the race. Even if he has a bad race and finished multiple laps behind, under the original point system, he is guaranteed 6 base points X 3.2 multiplier = 19.2 points. A D2 driver with a 1.3 multiplier would have to finish on the podium to match those points -- even in another lounge of 16 drivers which would be very hard to achieve.
New BASE Points Table (before handicap multiplier):
The points table above reflects a point system where the base points earned is a function of the number of drivers in the lounge. The top 3-4 positions earn fixed points regardless of room size: a top finish in any lounge earns the same amount of points. Therefore, teams assigned to small lounges still have a chance to earn maximum points. Starting with position 5 however, the points earned drops as the number of drivers in the lounge drops.
This, or any other system, is not perfect, but we feel this is an improvement and addresses a flaw in the original proposed point system. If we manage to get 16 teams and most teams have 4 drivers the system reverts back to the original (or very close) and that will be our goal in any case.
Feedback welcome.
EDIT: Also note that in round 1 the #1 seeded team (based on quali) will be in the lounge with 3 teams if we have 15 teams (seeds #1, #8, #9). In round 2, the lowest bracket will have 3 teams. Almost all other lounges should be between 13-15 drivers where the points are very similar to the original system.
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Sounds complex. I like it 👍.
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I know it's complex, especially when combined with the handicaps and multipliers.
We usually try to keep things simple, but this event structure doesn't make that easy.
In the end, this is all about having fun and driving as a team incorporating tactics not usually used with individual driver focus events... while at the same time competing against some of the best drivers in the world... so it'll be fun and different regardless.
We'll certainly use the "learnings" from this event (good or bad) when designing future events.
PS> Now I've got to incorporate all these formulas into a google doc so it's 100% automated... just input the drivers in their lounges/finishing positions and the rest just spits out.
but fun.
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- Speedy6543
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Tim, are every driver supposed to use the number in the right column in the team registration form displayed in the OP?
I'm listed as # 16 for instance..
Anyway, Team PURE Swedens livery is now 100% finalized, and the car is on share at my GTP_chorda account.
Should I send a friend request somewhere?
I'm listed as # 16 for instance..
Anyway, Team PURE Swedens livery is now 100% finalized, and the car is on share at my GTP_chorda account.
Should I send a friend request somewhere?
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I'll speak for Tim, because I believe he is travelling by plane today.
The car numbers are assigned by handicap, with Wes currently being #1. We would like people to use these numbers on their cars, yes, but since new sign-ups can alter the ordering, the assignments aren't final.
You're currently not on the friends list for GTP_3D3Racing (& GTP_3D3_A and GTP_3D3_B), so send FR's to those accounts and one of us with accept them within 12hrs from now. Or I'll send one if I don't see yours when I get home later. 👍
The car numbers are assigned by handicap, with Wes currently being #1. We would like people to use these numbers on their cars, yes, but since new sign-ups can alter the ordering, the assignments aren't final.
You're currently not on the friends list for GTP_3D3Racing (& GTP_3D3_A and GTP_3D3_B), so send FR's to those accounts and one of us with accept them within 12hrs from now. Or I'll send one if I don't see yours when I get home later. 👍
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Can't believe I'm sitting at 17, the number I always choose!
Everyone STAY WHERE YOU ARE!
Everyone STAY WHERE YOU ARE!
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👍All three accepted.
Btw, I noticed that our (Swedens) logo is gone in the team sheet in the OP.
Don't know if it's gone or if something is wrong (the logos for PURE NA & EU are still there), so I'll post the Swedish PURE logo here again. 👍
