That final race was a beast. Finally got around to trying it out in A-Spec. All of the races were easy except Azur. Definitely restart the race if the 2J isn't in the back of the pack. I could get the lead easily, but that thing was right on my tail and would spin me out in the tight corners on the back end of the course. I used the Toyota 7 race car. Good stuff!
[GUIDE] Historic Racing Car Cup
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- p-coletrey
I didn't read all 19 pages, but just in case I used the Z28 RM. Started 7th, the 2J is in 3rd. I put the 2J car into the wall on turn 1, hit him in the rear quarter panel, made him spin out, that put me in third. With the 2J out of the picture It's just a matter of overtaking the more comprable cars and getting good laptimes. It's a cheapshot on the AI, but I guess sometimes you have to rearrange the odds a little.
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- irishbill76
I won both events using the Camaro race tuned. The pint of Guinness at the end was definately earned 
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- salpv99
Won both with: 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car.
Côte d’Azur: No biggie. Relatively speaking, anyway.
Deep Forest Raceway:
It's a two car race.
You vs. The Devil's Refrigerator. (Chaparral)
Some observations: I don't know if the starting positions change, but that's not what's important. All that matters is where The Evil White HVAC Unit is. Sometimes it gets a better position going into the corner than others. If it gets a good position and you can't pass it, you are toast. If you just reset it, it will keep getting the same position into the turn. But, if you go out out of the race completely and then go back in, its position at the turn may change. That's when you have a far more realistic chance. It's like 3rd/4th into the turn and not 2nd. Or something about like that. Take him on the inside. If you get cleanly ahead of him, it's pretty much yours to lose - albeit very easy to do so. There may be another car ahead of you, but you can pass it - as long as it's not The Fridge.
I noticed something really interesting about the behavior of the Toyota 7 (their tribute to the inclined plane): If you royally take out the Chaparral, the Toyota will be on you like flies on rice. But, if you just pass the Chaparral without shepherding it into a wall, it will stay behind you, and - the good part - the Toyota 7 will stay behind the Chaparral.
After you pass the Chaparral at the first turn, it's 5 laps of guarding the inside and blocking on the long straight. On some laps the Chaparral and Toyota sorta hang back. On others they are sitting in your backseat.
Odd note: I was leading after 4 a few times, but kept figuring out how to screw it up on the last lap. So, the next time I was ahead after 4, I started telling myself "two laps to go. one more after this one." I even said it out loud. I'm not sure if it had any real effect, but that's what I did when I finally beat it.
Côte d’Azur: No biggie. Relatively speaking, anyway.
Deep Forest Raceway:
It's a two car race.
You vs. The Devil's Refrigerator. (Chaparral)
Some observations: I don't know if the starting positions change, but that's not what's important. All that matters is where The Evil White HVAC Unit is. Sometimes it gets a better position going into the corner than others. If it gets a good position and you can't pass it, you are toast. If you just reset it, it will keep getting the same position into the turn. But, if you go out out of the race completely and then go back in, its position at the turn may change. That's when you have a far more realistic chance. It's like 3rd/4th into the turn and not 2nd. Or something about like that. Take him on the inside. If you get cleanly ahead of him, it's pretty much yours to lose - albeit very easy to do so. There may be another car ahead of you, but you can pass it - as long as it's not The Fridge.
I noticed something really interesting about the behavior of the Toyota 7 (their tribute to the inclined plane): If you royally take out the Chaparral, the Toyota will be on you like flies on rice. But, if you just pass the Chaparral without shepherding it into a wall, it will stay behind you, and - the good part - the Toyota 7 will stay behind the Chaparral.
After you pass the Chaparral at the first turn, it's 5 laps of guarding the inside and blocking on the long straight. On some laps the Chaparral and Toyota sorta hang back. On others they are sitting in your backseat.
Odd note: I was leading after 4 a few times, but kept figuring out how to screw it up on the last lap. So, the next time I was ahead after 4, I started telling myself "two laps to go. one more after this one." I even said it out loud. I'm not sure if it had any real effect, but that's what I did when I finally beat it.
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- synagence
- highlightshadow
Same thing...
Had tried and failed with these 2 races for ages no matter what i tried .... this time i finally shorted the gearing on the 2D for Mountain course and used a stage 2 turbo ... managed the race fairly comfortably and was surprised how easily i finally found it
I used the Lambo Countach LP400 for Monaco
Had tried and failed with these 2 races for ages no matter what i tried .... this time i finally shorted the gearing on the 2D for Mountain course and used a stage 2 turbo ... managed the race fairly comfortably and was surprised how easily i finally found it
I used the Lambo Countach LP400 for Monaco
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- WNxTom
Did it in the 512BB! Steerings a bit iffy but It can be done...quite easily.
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- ken_b
Dude ty for these settings, the initial post about the lambo had some horrible settings, surely we kept the lowered height, but the rest of your tweeks are perfect!! It did take me a few enter/exits to get the Jag in the front, in the first corner it was jag, gt40, toy7, and here comes the lambo sliding on the inside. That move got me a solid second, from there just be patient and in the last left and the first left you will gain the most, you should be in first by lap two!! The rest of the time the jag will block and slow down the Toy7, that will get you a few laps in front, then you'll have to block the Toy7 on lap 4/5. I'm using a G27 and it was a blast, sure got the heart rate up!! But success!!! So I say Lambo Lambo Lambo!! Thx again for the help..you guys deserve cold beer!
I also wanted to add, that this entry and my excitement is prompted from success in the first race only. I'll go battle Cote in a bit. Peace.
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- Rikki_GTR
- IamValhalla
Just completed this in my Ferrari 512BB but my God it was tight!
I totally maxed out the car and fitted racing soft tires. Won the Deep Forest Raceway event by 0:00:018!, then stiffened and lowered the suspension for the Cote d'azure event and that was much more comfortable, coming in 0:00:365 seconds ahead of that damned 2J race car
I can't remember the settings for Deep Forest (sorry - I wish we had save slots!) but the settings for Cote d'azure were:
Ride Height: -20/-20
Spring Rate: 15/8
Dampers (Extension): 9/9
Dampers (Compression): 8/8
Anti-roll bars: 6/6
Camber Angle: 0/0
Toes Angle: 0.00/0:20
It was a struggle to keep the car in line though, to be fair.
I totally maxed out the car and fitted racing soft tires. Won the Deep Forest Raceway event by 0:00:018!, then stiffened and lowered the suspension for the Cote d'azure event and that was much more comfortable, coming in 0:00:365 seconds ahead of that damned 2J race car
I can't remember the settings for Deep Forest (sorry - I wish we had save slots!) but the settings for Cote d'azure were:
Ride Height: -20/-20
Spring Rate: 15/8
Dampers (Extension): 9/9
Dampers (Compression): 8/8
Anti-roll bars: 6/6
Camber Angle: 0/0
Toes Angle: 0.00/0:20
It was a struggle to keep the car in line though, to be fair.
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- jimboystaco
Just finished the race with the camaro. won both races by less than 1sec combined 
Tip:stay on the inside when you turn
Tip:stay on the inside when you turn
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- salpv99
At Deep Forest, I was white-knuckling it for every second of all 5 laps. And I could only get one car to win there.
At Cote d'Azur, I won it with 3 different cars - including the 66 Shelby spin-mobile.
One big difference between the two tracks: Though both were in GT3 and GT4, I have probably run 10X as many laps on Cote d'Azur than I have at Deep Forest. The same is probably true for many other people here. I pretty much know Cote d'Azur cold. It is familiar territory. Not so with Deep Forest.
After this pretty frustrating experience, I now know a lot more about Deep Forest than I did before. Much of the battle was learning the track's nuances. But with Cote d'Azur, I didn't learn anything new. I used what I already knew to my advantage.
Just a thought I had.
At Cote d'Azur, I won it with 3 different cars - including the 66 Shelby spin-mobile.
One big difference between the two tracks: Though both were in GT3 and GT4, I have probably run 10X as many laps on Cote d'Azur than I have at Deep Forest. The same is probably true for many other people here. I pretty much know Cote d'Azur cold. It is familiar territory. Not so with Deep Forest.
After this pretty frustrating experience, I now know a lot more about Deep Forest than I did before. Much of the battle was learning the track's nuances. But with Cote d'Azur, I didn't learn anything new. I used what I already knew to my advantage.
Just a thought I had.
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- oosrg
Knocked this one over last night with the Dodge Challenger R/T RM '70. Won Deep Forest by 3 secs and Cote 'd Azure by 5 secs...... it understeered like a bitch on full downforce with Racing Softs.... but it got the job done. With B Spec Bob using it, it's bloody hopeless. Need to knock over Like the Wind in B Spec, get the Toyota 7 and then give that to Bob so i don't have to babysit him every second of the race.
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- the_dirty_ho
I don't know how people are winning this by a distance in the Challenger RM, what cars are you up against?
I get a 2J Chaparral and a Toyota 7 every time, and they're all over me from the outset. I have to make sure neither are on the front row otherwise they disappear immediately, and I have to pretty much ram one of them out of the way on the first corner otherwise they're gone again.
From that point on it's guarding the inside line all the way and pulling ridiculous blocking manouvres along the straights.
If I get even slightly out of shape they're past me, and the closest I've got is 2nd. It's doing my head in
I get a 2J Chaparral and a Toyota 7 every time, and they're all over me from the outset. I have to make sure neither are on the front row otherwise they disappear immediately, and I have to pretty much ram one of them out of the way on the first corner otherwise they're gone again.
From that point on it's guarding the inside line all the way and pulling ridiculous blocking manouvres along the straights.
If I get even slightly out of shape they're past me, and the closest I've got is 2nd. It's doing my head in
Tired Tyres
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- Tired_Tyres
- Tired Tyres
Check the line up after a reset or after you first load the game. There should be a 2D on pole, a 2J 5th and the Toyota 7 is 9th.
I did this in an XJ13 with soft race tyres and was in the lead by the tunnel. Neither the 2J or the Toyota got within a second of me at any point.
I did this in an XJ13 with soft race tyres and was in the lead by the tunnel. Neither the 2J or the Toyota got within a second of me at any point.
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- Rikki_GTR
- IamValhalla
Just thought I would add that as well as winning the Stratos Rally Car '77 prize car for the Historic Racing Car cup, I won a Honda Mobil 1 NSX for completing all Expert series races. But I also won a level 1000 prize car into the bargain:
Subaru Legacy Touring wagon 2.0GT *sigh*
Why do I never get a good car for the Level 1000 car ticket?
Subaru Legacy Touring wagon 2.0GT *sigh*
Why do I never get a good car for the Level 1000 car ticket?
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- NikoTheHammer
Count me in as a winner with the Countach, and also part of the, "If I can do it, anybody can" club. 
Some variation of this setup seems to work for the Countach, even on Deep Forest:
Transmission: 240 (Cote d'Azur)/270 (Deep Forest)
Ride Height: -25/-25
Spring Rate: 17/19
Dampers (Extension): 10/10
Dampers (Compression): 8/8
Anti-roll Bars: 7/7
Camber: 4.0/0
Toe Angle: 0/-0.50
Tires: Racing Soft
Admittedly, I had have a bit of luck in how the race shook out. I barely saw the 2J or the Toyota 7:
- The Toyota 7 started first when I won Cote d'Azur (I figured I'd run the race anyway to get used to the car) and it was really sluggish off the line and it ended up in 8th or something. The 2J was stuck in the middle of the pack for the whole race.
- At Deep Forest, both cars started behind me and the Ferrari must have used up the entire track keeping those two behind it until the very end, when the vacuum cleaner went screaming past it to finish 2nd.
Some variation of this setup seems to work for the Countach, even on Deep Forest:Transmission: 240 (Cote d'Azur)/270 (Deep Forest)
Ride Height: -25/-25
Spring Rate: 17/19
Dampers (Extension): 10/10
Dampers (Compression): 8/8
Anti-roll Bars: 7/7
Camber: 4.0/0
Toe Angle: 0/-0.50
Tires: Racing Soft
Admittedly, I had have a bit of luck in how the race shook out. I barely saw the 2J or the Toyota 7:
- The Toyota 7 started first when I won Cote d'Azur (I figured I'd run the race anyway to get used to the car) and it was really sluggish off the line and it ended up in 8th or something. The 2J was stuck in the middle of the pack for the whole race.
- At Deep Forest, both cars started behind me and the Ferrari must have used up the entire track keeping those two behind it until the very end, when the vacuum cleaner went screaming past it to finish 2nd.
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- robertowjr
Hey guys,
I first tried the Dogde Challanger, well, I understand when you say it is possible but I simply hate drive that car, I spent like 300k, 400k tuning it according to Lion's Den tune settings. Imho I don't think I can win that race using Dogde R/T.
Frustraded I came to forum check other options, and I found your thread, Lambo is simply brilliant, really nice to drive, since I took the 1st place (on first turn) wasnt that hard keep it, set the max speed to 230kph, just had to block the 2j and Toyota7 on the first turn.
Thanks!
I first tried the Dogde Challanger, well, I understand when you say it is possible but I simply hate drive that car, I spent like 300k, 400k tuning it according to Lion's Den tune settings. Imho I don't think I can win that race using Dogde R/T.
Frustraded I came to forum check other options, and I found your thread, Lambo is simply brilliant, really nice to drive, since I took the 1st place (on first turn) wasnt that hard keep it, set the max speed to 230kph, just had to block the 2j and Toyota7 on the first turn.
Thanks!
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i'm going to try this a little later with my Lambo with some of the settings you guys mentioned. if that isn't enough for me to win, could someone let me borrow their 2J for these races? i'll give it right back when i'm done because I have no other need for it. i really just want to get these two races out of the way and move on.
if you have a 2J that you're willing to share, just PM me so we can figure everything out.
if you have a 2J that you're willing to share, just PM me so we can figure everything out.
HISTORIC CUP EASY WIN - Deep Forest
Beat it easily with the countach. Get every part from the tune shop you can buy, and get a wing from GT Auto, then adjust only a couple things:
camber angle: front 2.0 rear 1.5
lsd accelleration sensitivity: 35
brakes: front 6 rear 7
Thats all I did and I lead the whole race, and I'm not that great a racer. I think it also depends on the starting places of some of the other cars to make it easier. Tried everthing with the cobra and couldnt do it. Got it first go with the countach.
Beat it easily with the countach. Get every part from the tune shop you can buy, and get a wing from GT Auto, then adjust only a couple things:
camber angle: front 2.0 rear 1.5
lsd accelleration sensitivity: 35
brakes: front 6 rear 7
Thats all I did and I lead the whole race, and I'm not that great a racer. I think it also depends on the starting places of some of the other cars to make it easier. Tried everthing with the cobra and couldnt do it. Got it first go with the countach.
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I read somewhere that when you get the free car slip from completing the 100 race thing that if you look at the car and dont like it, before u accept it, quit the game and then go back to the game and it will be a different car and just keep doing that until you get a car you like......ive yet to conform this cuz i havnt got it yet sooo.......
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I won at Deep Forest using the Lambo and some of the settings mentioned earlier in this thread, but for the life of me I just can't win at Cote. I have no shot, my car combined with my driving simply can't do it.
Does anybody have one of the cars that the AI uses that I could borrow? I really don't want to buy a Camaro RM and risk not being able to win, i made that mistake with the Challenger RM already. And even though I am level 20, would I be able to drive a higher level car, Chaparral 2J (Level 23 Car), if it was gifted to me?
Does anybody have one of the cars that the AI uses that I could borrow? I really don't want to buy a Camaro RM and risk not being able to win, i made that mistake with the Challenger RM already. And even though I am level 20, would I be able to drive a higher level car, Chaparral 2J (Level 23 Car), if it was gifted to me?
