Heartfelt congratulations to Jammy for winning ITCC 3!

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It was you...? Unless you think that your name isn't Willfred.


Perhaps we're not talking about the same incident. This is why I need to go and investigate on the PS3.
6 18 on race three look in video i think you''ll find it was sig as i was in front olly and the accident was sig
 
as you can hear contact was made i did not report you as its preseason and as you can see you were lagging a bit as well

I guess I do owe you an apology then, obviously it was completely unintentional and as I said before car was under steering on full steering lock so nothing I could of done. Lets just leave it as a racing incident.

The Bmw in race 3 is myself driving. The Ford appears to be dive bombing as you can see on the close up track map the driver breaks very late, combined with lag (or as a result of lag) which leads to three car contact putting two into the gravel. I hope these type of incidents are the ones which would result in penalties during the season? It ruined two drivers races.

Any form of qualifying would be better than random grid starts I think
 
Resh apologized for that one. I put it in the replays more often to explain what happened, but Resh apologized and I think he's learned his lesson.


If it happened during the preseason, though, that could certainly be at least a 10 point penalty...
 
I should let you guys no that, I'm not using the racing line nor break indicater so I wasn't 100% sure about breaking.
 
I should let you guys no that, I'm not using the racing line nor break indicater so I wasn't 100% sure about breaking.

Then you brake sooner* than the cars in front.

* sooner, so that you can't even accidentally hit the other drivers.

Problem is, if you brake later than the guys in front of you, you can do nothing to avoid them. They turn in for their apexes, you run out of track, but you carry too much speed in. Have you ever tried to stop a fully loaded freight train before it runs out of room, in less than a kilometer? Yes, it's the same idea.


You can't go around stopping 800,000 tonnes in less than a kilometer, but neither can you slow down from 220+ km/h in any less time than the other drivers. You really just need to slow down sooner, get on the gas sooner, and be ready to take advantage of the draft sooner.

Even in the PMs I sent you, did you see how many instances I used "sooner?" A racing driver can be good, but he's not the best until he can react efficiently and quickly to avoid crashing.

what weight did you say the bmw would run

1300 kg. Is fine for this week, and possibly the full season.
 
I only react to brake lights when in an congested pack, otherwise I brake at my own marks. If, in reverse races etc, the guys infront of me brake "too early" I tend to only brake enough so I'm right on their backside. (ABS on you can't really "outbrake" someone, unless they have really bad tyres or brake early.. Otherwise it's just a dive bomb)

ABS off on the other hand.. :drool:
 
Or maybe before you see them? I think it's best to hope that everyone can avoid braking too late, by braking through anticipation. You should have some idea of where the person in front is going to brake.


When RESH is following behind Siggers, RESH should brake sooner, but lighter. When Siggers' taillights come on, RESH is prepared to brake harder, and is already going slow enough to actually be able to brake more lightly, and RESH could probably use that to close up the gap in the middle of the corner, by getting on the throttle sooner.
 
Or, you could... I dunno... learn to read the driving style of the people around you. Guys, you're going four races against the same people, you should have their braking points dialled in before the start of Race 3 at the latest.
 
Or, you could... I dunno... learn to read the driving style of the people around you. Guys, you're going four races against the same people, you should have their braking points dialled in before the start of Race 3 at the latest.

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Thing is, though, I don't think people can trust it. A lot of times, the draft will change the top speed at the end of the straight by as much as 20 km/h. I kid you not, without draft at Monza, the top speed was 227 km/h approaching Parabolica. With draft, RESHIRAM5 was able to hit 242 km/h. Even if he had managed to brake at the correct point under normal conditions, the extra speed would've been too much anyways. That's why there's the stipulation in the OP that says that all drivers, when following behind someone [and not trying to make the pass] must brake before the driver in front; they have more speed to scrub off.



Season 4 announcement:


Season 4 will have a maximum of eight teams, in 4-6 cars.


Season 4 will have the option of having a factory team and a supporting "independent" team. For example, Red Bull Racing is the factory team of Scuderia Toro Rosso, in Formula 1.


This may only happen twice, with a factory team and a supporting independent team. The independent team and factory team are scored separately, however they will run testing sessions and races as a team.


ITCC Rising Stars from Season 4 will be put into the independent supporting teams only, unless they fulfill the factory driver requirements:


-At least 3 GTP Championships completed, with proof, in good-standing

OR

-at least 1 full ITCC Championship completed, in good-standing.



Teams can be founded by anyone, and named by the founders, until a maximum number of teams is reached (unless a second division is needed,) and every team must have a dedicated colour scheme which matches the other team cars. Factory teams and Independent support teams will have opposing colours (purple with yellow rims, and yellow with purple rims.)


Teams must be easily distinguishable; no, I won't allow three teams to have white cars again.
 
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Fair enough, but what if I'm on the inside trying to overtake?

That's when you use discretion: Can you make the pass without causing a horrid crash? Is it an all-or-nothing pass attempt, or will there be enough room for all of the cars involved to fit through the corner?


In all honesty, I wouldn't have gone for that three-wide pass. Sure, I got alongside people in a four-wide battle on one of the straightaways, but that was to defend my position from behind rather than to attack the cars in front.
 
Ok, I'll try to be cleaner next time 👍, yeah that move was stupid, just like what Russel Ingall use to do :P :ouch:
 
Ok, I'll try to be cleaner next time 👍, yeah that move was stupid, just like what Russel Ingall use to do :P :ouch:

Not stupid, just a little too gutsy.


Again, the contact wasn't very hard, but when ITCC cars are entering a corner, they're surprisingly easy to upset. Especially when they bounce between two other cars.
 
Steward's review announcement!






Sakery is under investigation for the Race 4 victory, for corner-cutting.


If a 5 second penalty is applied, and not appealed*, the winner of Race 4 would actually be Driverman447, and the full results would be:


  1. Driverman447
  2. Sakery
  3. Jammy_21
  4. etc.
 
Yay, my teamate won :D, we need to think of a strategy.

Since you are helping me with these issues (This is not just happening with ITCC), sometimes when someone is behind me which is going a bit faster, I try to pull over to let them overtake but they don't pull off the overtake :(.
 
Since you are helping me with these issues (This is not just happening with ITCC), sometimes when someone is behind me which is going a bit faster, I try to pull over to let them overtake but they don't pull off the overtake :(.

No, you don't have to get out of their way. Just don't force the issue. If they're actually as fast as they seem, they'll get along side, and then you and the other driver will run off of mutual respect; give each other enough room to stay on the track without car contact, and everyone will be happy.




And, no, your teammate's victory is pending the results of the investigation. Steward discussion is open on the matter, I'd like to hear from polar and Willfred, still, as to what they think.



Sakery also has the right to appeal under ITCC rules.
 
No, this doesn't involve contact, I'm just confused to when someone is behind me, I let them overtake by moving to the outside and slowing down a bit but the don't overtake, I don't get it :confused:.
 
No, this doesn't involve contact, I'm just confused to when someone is behind me, I let them overtake by moving to the outside and slowing down a bit but the don't overtake, I don't get it :confused:.

They probably don't understand what you're doing.


I'm telling you, there's no reason to allow them to pass, unless they're in a faster class (GGT vs. LMP1.)
 
Season 4 announcement:


Season 4 will have a maximum of eight teams, in 4-6 cars.


Season 4 will have the option of having a factory team and a supporting "independent" team. For example, Red Bull Racing is the factory team of Scuderia Toro Rosso, in Formula 1.


This may only happen twice, with a factory team and a supporting independent team. The independent team and factory team are scored separately, however they will run testing sessions and races as a team.


ITCC Rising Stars from Season 4 will be put into the independent supporting teams only, unless they fulfill the factory driver requirements:


-At least 3 GTP Championships completed, with proof, in good-standing

OR

-at least 1 full ITCC Championship completed, in good-standing.



Teams can be founded by anyone, and named by the founders, until a maximum number of teams is reached (unless a second division is needed,) and every team must have a dedicated colour scheme which matches the other team cars. Factory teams and Independent support teams will have opposing colours (purple with yellow rims, and yellow with purple rims.)


Teams must be easily distinguishable; no, I won't allow three teams to have white cars again.

im definately taking the nissan factory team (if i can get gt6 by season 4)
 

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