ICGTC Season 3 FINISHED

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It was a really annoying race for me, i qualified 3rd on mediums after putting in the 1.29.7xx and i was really happy with that.. more than how the race went for me.. 1st lap i was going for late brake to get to erik if i'm right.. but i turned to early at that ( chicane ) after the tunnel.. lost my place to immortal with i got him back in the next lap.. caught up to erik with i bought it shouldn't be a big effort to get past him but man.. he drove zoo defensively that me and immortal were all over each other in corners haha.. but that was where i got annoyed i had the pace to get away from immortal.. but yea its just racing.. my flight for tomorrow has been canceled AGAIN.. but hopefully by wednesday I'm a gonerrrr, anyway next season ( with i hope i will be back before it starts ) ill have some good surprises for immortal :D
 
ErikAndre71
I'll be there, but please don't talk about the F1 race as I have to watch it later and I would love not to know the result.
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I'll keep my mouth shut about the F1 :)

I personally don't mind to wait a week, but I also want to be done with it. And we haven't really delayed any other races for birthdays.. thinking of Netherdragon going on a rampage on 21st birtdays..
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I would love you forever, but it's totally up to you guys :sly: The more people the better at Nurburgring, aye? :sly:
 
I look forward to racing Monaco again , it is a different type of race and I enjoyed it despite making a million mistakes . I'm sure I will do much better next season if we race this track again.

Someone send me a pm on gtp after the f1 when we are doing the stewarding job.
 
At the moment the ring is due on the 5th. I have 1 exam that following week on the 11th. If we delayed it to the 12th it would be the week before I have exams on the wednesday, thursday and friday so I will vote no delay!!
 
Yes i also vote no delay , I want us to start working on the rules and regulations for season 4 which i predict is going to take some time
 
I think most rules will stay as it is now. They proved to be very solid.

But I want to discuss the tyres.

After what I can understand the car specs was made for Racing Hard and I do feel Medium and Soft isn't similar for all cars. Some car get insane out of corner speed as they have more torque with the turbo and some car get's to much tyre wear on the two softer compounds.
Also the fact that we spend to much time in the pit compared to real life racing I do feel racing hard should be the tyre we use.

Qualify: I noticed a nice way to qualify in the 3d3 event we participated in were we had one stint to qualify on or 15 minutes. I do feel 30 minutes is way to much as in some cases we use more tyres only in qualify than we could fit inside the paddock. I know we like to burn off some fuel to get a lighter car, but it still is the same for everyone.

Exception on time would of course be the 24h layout of Nurburgring as it takes more than 15 minutes to finish the outlap and the hotlap. But here we limit it to one outlap and one hotlap.

Car Selection: I've experienced a lot of guys use the same car over and over again and that's acceptable, some guys change a lot and that's impressive. I know I for one don't want to spend more time to get to know a car so I would like to propose we have the right to stay with our car if you finished all races except 2 as we pull 2 races out from the final leaderboard. This way it is some way to give something back to the most dedicated racers.

No ABS have been up for discussion already, but even though I find it way better to race with No ABS, it could mean we get a lot of drop out as someone find it close to impossible. I could just say you need to practice, but thats not a ultimatum I'm going to put out there.
But this could maybe be something to vote for, but I do feel we need more than 50% for yes to enforce it as I'm not willing to lose 50% of the drivers.

Hard Damage have been up for discussion a few times, I do feel it's just another way of making the steward job harder. If someone makes a damage to another car we would have to be even harder on the penalty and I do feel we steward need to police enough already. But as our steward team have grown we could decide on what we should penalize and make sure everyone know so people have the chance to avoid it. Mostly in the rules anyway, but we seen someone bending the rules and getting away with it.
 
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I look forward to racing Monaco again , it is a different type of race and I enjoyed it despite making a million mistakes . I'm sure I will do much better next season if we race this track again.

Someone send me a pm on gtp after the f1 when we are doing the stewarding job.
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I agree 👍
 
I'm on for stewarding now.

Also, I'm happy to try out the hard tyres. Maybe with an optional stint on mediums? I do like the optional stint thing we've had going this season, but that's just me.
 
same here i'm all good to go on hards, but with having 1 stint on or mediums or softs it would be better.. about the abs.. i read some said its faster without it.. but if they could prove it then ok no problem.. but we have to look at the 1st corners were going to have.. its been pretty clean so far but incase we try it out.. i really don't want to be a part of someone just braking to late and locking up.. it will bring excitement to those in the leader board who are on top every race but i say we should ( or you guys should ) try it out in pre season..
 
Steward Report

Lap 16.
ProPersian is having a illegal pass on IMMORTALPILOT in the chicane after the tunnel. Passing him with 4 wheels outside the track.

Lap 21.
ProPersian does another illegal pass, this time on ErikAndre71 in sector 3. (EA71 was not part of that decision)

ProPersian 20 second penalty.


Lap 17.
Skengdigi back up into traffic and block the road for Falcon who ends up with a damage to his car from it.

Lap 34.
Skengdigi push Maxitsu at the rear of his car and taking advantage of Maxitsu sliding.

Skengdigi 20 second penalty.

Lap 25.
C-Falcon makes a illegal blocking move on Skengdigi after the chicane

C-Falcon 10 second penalty


Warning goes to Anastasis14 for flashing his light, this is what we use if we lap a car and you hadn't come close to lap Maxitsu in lap 4


I will update the OP after I watched the Formula1 race. No penalty will change the results so the results of the race as you know it stays the same.
 
i havent seen anywhere that i was out side of the track with 4 wheel to be honest.. i have watched the replay till the last lap with the battle we had.. i had one case going out of the track & i got immortal But i waited for him and let him pass..if you watch the replay you see i was half trottle until he caught up with me.. so i think its unfair to give a penalty for that, at that point after he passed me he made a mistake so i took the opportunity to pass him again.

on the incident on lap 21 i think maxitsu should have let us pass, since he crashed and we were much faster than him he just decided to not let us pass which caused an accident, his tyres were done because he went to the pit.. anyway, in that left corner after the chicane i think erik got caught behind maxitsu i thin khe slipped because of his tires or whatever & i saw the opportunity to pass erik from the outside and i did that but erik hit the wall on the inside & making him to hit me & i crashed.. after that in the 2nd right/left corner he just got infront of me it wasnt as if i passed him iligally, i got the better line after the incident & could get him on the inside & pass him! & i think erik drove way tooo defensively, it was kinda annoying but i think in a real race there would be a blue flag.
 
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i havent seen anywhere that i was out side of the track with 4 wheel to be honest.. i have watched the replay till the last lap with the battle we had.. i had one case going out of the track & i got immortal But i waited for him and let him pass..if you watch the replay you see i was half trottle until he caught up with me.. so i think its unfair to give a penalty for that, at that point after he passed me he made a mistake so i took the opportunity to pass him again.
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We noticed you let IMMORTALPILOT get back infront of you, but we also noticed you forced him on the slower line through the corner. So the pass after that was easy and in my eyes calculated.
on the incident on lap 21 i think maxitsu should have let us pass, since he crashed and we were much faster than him he just decided to not let us pass which caused an accident, his tyres were done because he went to the pit.. anyway, in that left corner after the chicane i think erik got caught behind maxitsu i thin khe slipped because of his tires or whatever & i saw the opportunity to pass erik from the outside and i did that but erik hit the wall on the inside & making him to hit me & i crashed.. after that in the 2nd right/left corner he just got infront of me it wasnt as if i passed him iligally, i got the better line after the incident & could get him on the inside & pass him! & i think erik drove way tooo defensively, it was kinda annoying but i think in a real race there would be a blue flag.
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I'm not going into details here as it involved myself. But it was about you taking advantage of the situation. But it was discussed from every angle.
 
ofcourse i mean everyone would of took that opportunity on lap 21 it was pretty clear you got stuck behind maxitsu & i was seeing the right side as a clear space where i could get to pass you but what happened after that is that i didn't force you to hit the wall or something like that.. and on the part where i let immortal get back i clearly gave him the space he needed to get back in the correct line it wasn't as if i was blocking the right side so he couldn't get back into it, i don't know how you would say it was a planned move??.. anyways i disagree on the penalties but it doesn't matter.. its end of the season.. but imo about taking advantage of some situations like the ones i got penalty i think anyone would of go for it..
 
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Taking advantage of me being blocked by Maxitsu was expected and you are not penalized for it. But I hit the wall because you dont give room and I had more than sufficient overlap for you to give me room there.
Then you push me wide and you overtake me when I struggle to keep my car straight after your push.
So you take advantage over a problem I had because of you.

We look at the two first bumbs as a racing incidents as the track is narrow, but if we re open this case I would of course let the stewards look into your illegal blocking infront of the swimming pool also..
 
We will always go for gaps and spaces as racers but the risk involved sometimes doesn't go our way and that is the case in a few of the penalties given out for this race ( my penalty included )

Its a narrow track and discretion has to be used at Monaco more than other wider courses . Erik was extremely defensive to me in the last few laps eventually forcing me into a mistake but his driving was legal .

The penalties may seem harsh sometimes but we have to be consistent and fair .
 
OP is updated and if you win next race no success ballast will be added. We already removed 50% of the ballast as it is the penultimate race.
For the final race every car will be ballast free, meaning you have to go with your stock weight according to our car specs.

Edit:Congratulation to VELOCI_2NR for his Three in one. Pole Position, fastest lap and the win itself ;)

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Taking advantage of me being blocked by Maxitsu was expected and you are not penalized for it. But I hit the wall because you dont give room and I had more than sufficient overlap for you to give me room there.
Then you push me wide and you overtake me when I struggle to keep my car straight after your push.
So you take advantage over a problem I had because of you.

We look at the two first bumbs as a racing incidents as the track is narrow, but if we re open this case I would of course let the stewards look into your illegal blocking infront of the swimming pool also..
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i guess i just cannot agree with the decisions made but it isn't a big problem.. after all its just a game and apparently its not only the decision of 1 steward..

on who did i do the illegal blocking?? what lap is it?
 
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wow, a hattrick
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I believe it's actually a 'Grand Chelem' just as impressive.

I sign up for Rome too btw, on my phone so I can't add myself in.

Also, Persian we gave you a penalty for going off the track and overtaking by the smallest of margins in Spa, at Monaco you were all four wheels off track and you clearly gained from it by not taking Immortal when he was clearly not going to be back up to full speed.

We have consistency and precedent in that regard at least :)
 
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