I'm thinking about standard cars in GT7
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True, but it's also a convenient way of keeping standards out of the game for most players, while still offering them up to those that want them + generating cash for PD/Sony. Keep them out of online lobbies and/or allow hosts the option of keeping them out and I can easily see PD buying into this for GT7.
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The best solution would be to hire staff and create a poll with every standard car to ask the fans which cars they want as a premium car in future GT games. It would be the best of both worlds. No standard cars and still make sure that fans of certain standard cars get the premium version of those cars. While the main team can create new cars that matter at the time GT will be released.
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They don't need to do polls, they should have usage stats from GT5 and GT6. Together with some common sense they should work out the standards most in need of updating, and bin the rest, or add them to a queue for updating later.
That is what a logical game developer would do, let's see if PD also follow.
That is what a logical game developer would do, let's see if PD also follow.
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I would accept standard cars in GT7 only and ONLY if they are updated heavy like Nissan R390 GT1 race/road car, RUFs and Seat Ibiza... Basically premium exterior without interior. If they can't do that then droop them all. Am so sad when watch replay's and see some of mu favorite car's how they look awful (Toyota GT-one, McLaren F1 GTR long tail 97, Alfa 155 touring car...)
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Polyphony Digital has a huge decision to make regarding these "standard cars" for next-gen. Gran Turismo's greatest rival, Forza, is already on next-gen, and their assets are arguably the best in the market. Despite Forza 5's car count is very small, those gorgeous assets will be brought to Forza 6 along newly created ones, while PD could still be considering using PS2 era assets on their next game.
The side-by-side image above serves as an example of how past gen assets look on a next-gen engine compared to a next-gen asset. Since GT5/GT6's models have approximately the same polygon count from Forza 4's models, I suspect GT won't be reclaiming the title of best graphics from Forza for a long time.
The side-by-side image above serves as an example of how past gen assets look on a next-gen engine compared to a next-gen asset. Since GT5/GT6's models have approximately the same polygon count from Forza 4's models, I suspect GT won't be reclaiming the title of best graphics from Forza for a long time.
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In several months Standards could be side by side with this. How do you think they will measure up?
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Well, at least it will be funny... I guess.In several months Standards could be side by side with this. How do you think they will measure up?
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If by funny you mean sad, yeah I agree
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GT5/GT6 premium cars are far better than FM4 car's model
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How do you know that R33 is a last-gen asset? How do you know the R35 isn't? We don't have that information and any difference in quality there is simply subjective. We also have no reason to believe that PD is considering using GT4 assets in GT7, they haven't said one word about that. With Driveclub coming out hopefully sometime this summer and Project Cars on the horizon, we'll find out within the year who owns the title of best-looking car models. Until then, it's a game of wait-and-see.
I agree, but that's not because of polygon count. It's because of 1) the way the polygons are used by the modeler, 2) the lighting engine, and 3) texturing. That's why GT5/6's models look better. The polygon count per-car is roughly the same as FM4's, but PD has done a much better job of physically modeling them, and their superior lighting and rendering engine is why the cars look better during gameplay. Forza also markedly cuts down the quality of its models during races, which certainly doesn't help. When I demoed Forza 5 recently I was surprised and disappointed to find that even with all the Xbox One's extra power, they're still doing that. Gameplay models still cannot hold a candle to what you see in the menus.
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That's not an assumption or speculation. That's a blatant statement that PD is considering doing something and there is zero evidence to support it.
Also, did Turn 10 admit to its players which assets have been carried over and which have been created from scratch from Forza 5? If they did, fair enough, but I have a really tough time believing they would ever do that. Historically they're not the most honest when it comes to the visual quality of their games.
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I thought this was about GT7 and GT4 assets, not comparing two games... 
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Alright, I did state that, my bad. But the sentence can be changed to: ...PD could still be considering using PS2 era assets on GT7. Anyway, the R33 is labeled as DLC in Forza 5's site. And we all know the cars sold on DLC were the Forza 4 models that were not upscaled for Forza 5.
And @emula
I know GT cars look better than Forza 4, but that was not my point. I already state that I was talking about polygon count. And since you're showing me interior pics, why don't you do the same with GT6 and Forza 5, and if GT still look better I take all that I've written here back.
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*Sigh* I know one of you want's to get the word but can we please get back on topic? We're taking this too far...
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@TokoTurismo is right, this isn't about GT vs Forza. I only mentioned Forza in here because of the ridiculous polygon count in the models they are using next-gen to try to prove a point where PD would be wrong, in my opinion, should they include "standard cars" in GT7. That's it.
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