I'm thinking about standard cars in GT7

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LMSCorvetteGT2,1Johnnypenso
Sorry being late
I do understand you guys and I did reply that most of players(including me) would agree that standard replicas should be droped at some point. And I really don't know about others(nor the sales they make). I really don't know how would people react if they make a GT without the diversity it has now. I'm just saying that I don't want another forza or AC, PC.... I want another GT(we are talking about car palete rigth?)

And I'm not hiding, not need to... I'm talking trough a keyboard is not that we are in a pub. And even if you are majority on this planet I will fight for my standards till the end.

 

[MustangManiac]

I don't want to see them toss the standards, HD premium shells without interiors would be good enough for me, I drive from the hood. I used photo mode to put the main cars I use online on my computer desktop at work. But, doing that made me realize how bad the Galant VR-4 looks compared to my '11 Elise. Makes me sad to think that GT7 premiums will look so good that they might consider dropping the galant so the game doesn't look crappy. I'd rather them take another year and bring all the cars up to date. At this point Grand Theft Auto V cars look better than GT6 standards.

While that may be "good enough" for you, it won't be for me and many others. I have never driven a real car while sitting on the bumper, hood or flying above and behind it, nor have I driven a car with a game controller. I sit inside my car and drive with a wheel and pedals. The word simulator has a meaning, you may want to look it up. If this is all PD can come up with after 15+ years of development then they have truly lost their way.

 

[SaulWolfden]

There should be no standards in GT7, they will easily have more than enough Premium models for there to be little issue with cutting them. Though on the standards that exist in GT6, some of them still baffle me as to why they were kept, mostly referring to Miatas, NSXs, Corvettes, and Skylines when PLENTY of premium models of most of the standards kept exist, it's just pointless padding.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

LMSCorvetteGT2,1Johnnypenso
Sorry being late
I do understand you guys and I did reply that most of players(including me) would agree that standard replicas should be droped at some point. And I really don't know about others(nor the sales they make). I really don't know how would people react if they make a GT without the diversity it has now. I'm just saying that I don't want another forza or AC, PC.... I want another GT(we are talking about car palete rigth?)

And I'm not hiding, not need to... I'm talking trough a keyboard is not that we are in a pub. And even if you are majority on this planet I will fight for my standards till the end.

That's fine, I think people for too long have been satisfied or happy with GT because it has tons of cars, even if the quality and the rest of the game suffers do to it. That is the issue I have...

Also FM and AC are good games i wasn't aware that quantity of cars is what made the game.

 

[Venny_]

why not just ruin all the cars and they'll all look equal

always wanted to see what a standard brz looked like

 

[TokoTurismo]

why not just ruin all the cars and they'll all look equal

always wanted to see what a standard brz looked like

Imagine that. lol.

 

[Illogical]

While that may be "good enough" for you, it won't be for me and many others. I have never driven a real car while sitting on the bumper, hood or flying above and behind it, nor have I driven a car with a game controller. I sit inside my car and drive with a wheel and pedals. The word simulator has a meaning, you may want to look it up. If this is all PD can come up with after 15+ years of development then they have truly lost their way.

Damn chief I didn't **** the game up? Don't need to attack me. I run a g27 on a 92" screen. And the interior view annoys me cause it shakes to much. So I only ride from the hood.

I completely agree that standards are stupid. They need to stop messing around with this GPS nonsense and get more cars up to date

 

[eran0004]

While that may be "good enough" for you, it won't be for me and many others. I have never driven a real car while sitting on the bumper, hood or flying above and behind it, nor have I driven a car with a game controller. I sit inside my car and drive with a wheel and pedals. The word simulator has a meaning, you may want to look it up. If this is all PD can come up with after 15+ years of development then they have truly lost their way.

Cockpit view is available for all cars, so you don't have to be flying behind or above the car if you don't want to.

Also, there is no bumper camera in Gran Turismo. The normal view is positioned inside the cockpit, at the height of the driver's head. The differences between the normal view and the cockpit view are:

• Cockpit view has a wider field of view (on standard settings)
• Cockpit view has an interior (detailed or simplified)
• Cockpit view is positioned on the side of the steering wheel while the normal view is positioned in the center of the cockpit.

 

[Tornado]

I wonder how often you're going to pat yourself on the back for discovering something anyone who watched a replay in GT3 already knew. At least, I can't think of any other reason for correcting someone while blatantly ignoring their actual point which was in no way affected by their faux paus.

 

[ECGadget]

There should be no standards in GT7, they will easily have more than enough Premium models for there to be little issue with cutting them. Though on the standards that exist in GT6, some of them still baffle me as to why they were kept, mostly referring to Miatas, NSXs, Corvettes, and Skylines when PLENTY of premium models of most of the standards kept exist, it's just pointless padding.

two words for you my friend, with regards to the Miatas/MX-5s: Racing Stripes

 

[F1WORLDCHAMPION]

We would lose so many good cars if they got rid of standards. I say just focus on converting them to premiums instead of getting rid of them. I would rather have 800 low quality cars than nothing. Premium bodies would cut it for GT7 and they could gradually put interiors into them.

 

[Samus]

We would lose so many good cars if they got rid of standards. I say just focus on converting them to premiums instead of getting rid of them. I would rather have 800 low quality cars than nothing. Premium bodies would cut it for GT7 and they could gradually put interiors into them.

Well obviously that is what everyone wants, when we say get rid we don't mean entirely, we mean as a standard model from PS2. Yes, premium bodies will be fine on PS4, the hundreds of standards that don't have such quality would not, and they need to go in one way or another.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

We would lose so many good cars if they got rid of standards. I say just focus on converting them to premiums instead of getting rid of them. I would rather have 800 low quality cars than nothing. Premium bodies would cut it for GT7 and they could gradually put interiors into them.

I disagree. I defenitely wouldn't buy GT7 if PD did this. Having hundreds of unfinished premium cars sounds like yet another compromise in quality and it could give the impression that PD doesn't care about GT by putting half-done content in it. Some of us want as close to a complete game as possible this time, not another work in progress for the full price of $60. Either finish something 100% or leave it out until it's done.

 

[F1WORLDCHAMPION]

I disagree. I defenitely wouldn't buy GT7 if PD did this. Having hundreds of unfinished premium cars sounds like yet another compromise in quality and it could give the impression that PD doesn't care about GT by putting half-done content in it. Some of us want as close to a complete game as possible this time, not another work in progress for the full price of $60. Either finish something 100% or leave it out until it's done.

We all have different preferences. Personally I would hate it if PD did the same as Turn 10 did with Forza 5 and cut out everything that wasn't perfect because I love having lots of content. The main reason I play GT is to drive cars and I don't care if they aren't all latest gen quality. The best experience I have had in GT6 was blasting a Mercedes CLK-LM around the Nurburgring which happens to be one of the worst looking standard cars yet it is still my favourite car in the game. I know that having standard cars in GT7 would be embarrassing for PD but getting rid of them would take away many great cars.

 

[Spagetti69]

Personally I would hate it if PD did the same as Turn 10 did with Forza 5 and cut out everything that wasn't perfect because I love having lots of content.

The ironic thing here is that the content cut by T10 is better than the stuff left in by PD lol.

 

[Samus]

We all have different preferences. Personally I would hate it if PD did the same as Turn 10 did with Forza 5 and cut out everything that wasn't perfect because I love having lots of content. The main reason I play GT is to drive cars and I don't care if they aren't all latest gen quality. The best experience I have had in GT6 was blasting a Mercedes CLK-LM around the Nurburgring which happens to be one of the worst looking standard cars yet it is still my favourite car in the game. I know that having standard cars in GT7 would be embarrassing for PD but getting rid of them would take away many great cars.

Nothing stopping you firing up GT6 to do that, though. Whilst in GT7, if some cars you liked were cut, you could check out some other, newer cars, giving you a new gaming experience.

 

[ThaSyn]

Standard cars in GT7. Only if there are enough premium models and only if I can choose to disable standard cars in my races. I'm not waiting on a PS4 quality replay with polished PS2 quality models passing by.

 

[F1WORLDCHAMPION]

The ironic thing here is that the content cut by T10 is better than the stuff left in by PD lol.

Really?

 

[Samus]

Really?

Well yes, the FM4 models are much higher quality than standard cars in GT.

 

[emula]

The ironic thing here is that the content cut by T10 is better than the stuff left in by PD lol.

Not exactly cut, FM5 cars are upgraded FM4 model (excepted the few models never seen in the series that are the only 100% made from scratch)

 

[Zelalem]

PD has a decision to make and both solutions will be critizied.

A) go with standard cars
We would have a huge amount of cars in GT7 and GT8, but better PS2 standard cars will not look great and even worse on PS5. Lets say GT8 has 1900 cars and they have to decide wether they use the ps2 standard cars on PS5 or don't use them. Nobody can predict the future, but i believe the uproar will be much higher, if they go from 1900 cars in GT8 to 400 cars in GT9.

B) go for quality
Some fans will be disappointed and others will be happy.

Of course, they could rebuild every standard car into a premium, but this will take ressources, they could use to build cars that matter at the time the game launches.

Not exactly cut, FM5 cars are upgraded FM4 model (excepted the few models never seen in the series that are the only 100% made from scratch)

Do you have a source, because i think Turn 10 said that they made those models from scratch.

 

[DarthMosco]

Do you have a source? Because i think Turn 10 said, they made those models from scratch.

you believe what Turn10 says (especially Greenawalt), all of dlc forza4/horizon were modeled with the quality for Autovista/Forzavista and now they are reselling for the second time pretending they have redone it from scratch, and some model are direct import from fm4/fh
the sources are NeoGAF or forzamotorsport forums

 

[Zelalem]

you believe what Turn10 says (especially Greenawalt), all of dlc forza4/horizon were modeled with the quality for Autovista/Forzavista and now they are reselling for the second time pretending they have redone it from scratch, and some model are direct import from fm4/fh
the sources are NeoGAF or forzamotorsport forums

I think they used the autovista cars and build the rest from scratch, because removing hundreds of cars and only selling about 50 cars via DLC would be stupid. Anyway you didn't gave me a link and this is off topic, too.

 

[Camaro69427]

A huge car count is one of the things that the GT series is known for. If they don't put the standards in GT7, I just simply won't buy it. It's chances of me buying it are low even if they do put the standards in because SONY followed the XBox route and make us pay for online on the PS4.
Just my .02 cents

 

[emula]

Do you have a source, because i think Turn 10 said that they made those models from scratch.

is enough to see them to understand that they are not made from scratch ... some still have the same modeling errors just like the fender of the golf

example

is clearly the same model

 

[Samus]

A huge car count is one of the things that the GT series is known for. If they don't put the standards in GT7, I just simply won't buy it. It's chances of me buying it are low even if they do put the standards in because SONY followed the XBox route and make us pay for online on the PS4.
Just my .02 cents

You won't buy it if they don't put standards in? Wow.

 

[Camaro69427]

You won't buy it if they don't put standards in? Wow.

Yeah, it's more choices. I (and this is probably just me) don't use 80-90% if the Premium we already have. I will admit, I am VERY biased in the "car category", but come on. Don't you have a favorite standard or two. I couldn't imagine the GT series without the Chaparrals, RUFs, and any of the other well used standards. They make the game more interesting. Think of all the Le Mans and F1 cars we'd be loosing. There wouldn't be enough to make the higher up races fun.
If you don't like them, don't buy them. It's as simple as that.

 

[Samus]

Yeah, it's more choices. I (and this is probably just me) don't use 80-90% if the Premium we already have. I will admit, I am VERY biased in the "car category", but come on. Don't you have a favorite standard or two. I couldn't imagine the GT series without the Chaparrals, RUFs, and any of the other well used standards. They make the game more interesting. Think of all the Le Mans and F1 cars we'd be loosing. There wouldn't be enough to make the higher up races fun.

Again, nobody wants to lose the cars themselves, what we're saying is they should be remodeled in higher quality with preference going to the most popular cars, using data retrieved from GT5/6, which would likely include all those cars you mentioned. Then all the ones left over, that they dodn't have the time to do, will be removed.

If you don't like them, don't buy them. It's as simple as that.

Except if they handled them the same way they did in GT5 & GT6 (and there is no reason to believe they wouldn't) it wouldn't be as simple as that, because they'd be taking part in races and I'd be seeing them all over the game whether I like it or not.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

A huge car count is one of the things that the GT series is known for. If they don't put the standards in GT7, I just simply won't buy it. It's chances of me buying it are low even if they do put the standards in because SONY followed the XBox route and make us pay for online on the PS4.
Just my .02 cents

Being known for having a high car count is a bad thing now in my eyes. It wasn't bad enough that PD imported last-gen car models just to brag about having the most cars. They also resorted to abusing duplicates and even putting in fake variations of cars to reach that goal. It just hurts GT's authenticity when they do that.

People who like standards were fortunate they are GT5 and GT6 in the first place. They had no business being on the PS3 to begin with. Those who are hoping to see them on the next generation of console are pushing their luck and setting themselves up for disappointment in my opinion.

Yeah, it's more choices. I (and this is probably just me) don't use 80-90% if the Premium we already have. I will admit, I am VERY biased in the "car category", but come on. Don't you have a favorite standard or two. I couldn't imagine the GT series without the Chaparrals, RUFs, and any of the other well used standards. They make the game more interesting. Think of all the Le Mans and F1 cars we'd be loosing. There wouldn't be enough to make the higher up races fun.

You don't need a ridiculous amount of cars to have fun races. If PD use their imagination, (something they've been lacking lately) they can make a good career mode with only premiums. Plenty of racing games have done more with significantly less cars.

P. S. There's only one F1 car, the FGT.

If you don't like them, don't buy them. It's as simple as that.

I'm already doing that in GT6. Still want them to stay out of GT7 though.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Accidental double post.