Is there any point to that car wash?

[grog]

The only point I see in doing this is to get the aero back to normal or to prep for a photo shoot.

Iv'e got Ford GT test car with tons of miles on it, its white, and its a bit dirty. After every race the car seems to get a rinse (as its pretty clean afterwards) but not a full wash cause I can see streaks and drips behind the door and its not as shiny.

 

[crettis]

I just ran the Indy 500 with my X1 and afterwards took it to the car wash. There was definitely a difference before and after. I notice there was actually a lot of smudges where I bumped the wall with my left front wheel.

All in all, the cars usually go from being a little dull to being glossy. Perfect for a photo shoot.

 

[S30Z_Guy]

Its something thats been there for ages througout the GT series, Kinda pointless i say.

I had a white FC in gt4 and didn't wash it for ages and in the replays it doesn't look shiney or white.

 

[Crumpet]

On some race cars, they don't actually clean the body, because it's computer generated to repeat, they clean the air, and don't follow the body on low cars.

 

[GMW]

If I remember correctly....not washing your car in the previous GTs meant your car got progressively less shiny till it was dull.

 

[Holyman]

On a related note, why does GT Auto exist at all, other than to eat precious resources and waste our time? Aero parts, wheels, and race mods could (and should) be found in the tune shop, and the wash and oil change is just kind of silly IMHO.

Surely it would only take a slight addition of code to make the "Race Mod" element of GT Auto work on *ANY* car.

Not with all the racing stripes and decals and everything (I can hold on for that), but just to add all *AVAILABLE* tuning and weight reduction elements with a single click.

I'm bouncing off the 20,000,000Cr limit atm. I got a couple of Bob-Spec levels to go before I hit 40 and can buy an X2010 in my own choice of colour and get the Flat-Broke Trophy (or whatever it's called).

So whenever I buy any car - including the 1944 VW SchwimmingKar for SE5 - I just put everything on it as a matter of course.

And it's getting pretty fecking tedious going through the same old routine of adding tunes and reducing weight.

Single-Click Total Upgrades Please!

 

[Hayden]

Since no one else has posted before and after car wash pics i'm going to. My ford GT LM Spec 2 is my indy grind car. It's done 2500 miles and has never been washed.

Before...during... After...

make up your own minds....

 

[BJhartopp]

I seemed to think that the dirt only showed up in replay mode.... sure this was the older GT's though. Not dont enough to comment on my cars but that Ford definatly looks whiter after the clean....

 

[lampadione]

Got it. The car wash does turn the screen brighter.

 

[Hayden]

lol, pics are horrible, but in replay mode the car is super shiny. i believe however that in the after shot the car is a bit cleaner.

 

[Spagetti69]

^how does the floor get waxed too? Weird.

 

[jjaisli]

Since no one else has posted before and after car wash pics i'm going to. My ford GT LM Spec 2 is my indy grind car. It's done 2500 miles and has never been washed.

Before...during... After...
make up your own minds....

All that proves is the car looks dirty and then clean...in the car wash screen. But take it to the track both before and after, go into photo mode and I can almost guarantee, you won't see any difference.

No matter how dirty my cars seem to get during races. They always look bright and shiny for the next race.

 

[lampadione]

Guys, there is no difference between the two pics.

It's just a matter of brightness. Just look at Bob's poor cousin in the yellow suit, or the background, or the floor.

 

[Kaaosherra]

I know this works, I've seen it. Cars don't only go gray, they get blotches on them, too. It takes a few endurances worth of mileage, but you can definitely see the difference between a dirty and a clean car in this game.

 

[jjaisli]

I know this works, I've seen it. Cars don't only go gray, they get blotches on them, too. It takes a few endurances worth of mileage, but you can definitely see the difference between a dirty and a clean car in this game.

Yes, correct. DURING the race. But I've yet to see any of my cars start a new race dirty.

 

[deftonesmx17]

You are all too focused on whether you can see the dirt, and may be missing the point. You can't see any damage after a race. You can wreck your car, and it will be magically restored by the next race. You will not see any damage, but the car could need the chassis repaired. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

I have yet to repair a single chassis on any of my "new" cars and not a single one of them handles any different than they did when brand new.

I even bought a used car, changed oil, ran a few laps, and started smashing it into walls. Exited and did oil change only, went back to race and it ran the same.

It really seems like GT Life is full of half implemented features as the only thing that makes any difference that I have found is an oil change.

 

[prymet1me]

So, to summarize this thread the cars get dirty until the race is over and GT Life gives a placebo effect. Oh and terrible pictures don't really show or prove anything, best examples would be photo mode, but wait the cars are clean again when going there. amirite?

 

[Hayden]

^^^exactly right^^^

 

[jjaisli]

Yes!

 

[grog]

look behind the drivers window, thats the streak I was refering to.

 

[niky]

I have yet to repair a single chassis on any of my "new" cars and not a single one of them handles any different than they did when brand new.

I even bought a used car, changed oil, ran a few laps, and started smashing it into walls. Exited and did oil change only, went back to race and it ran the same.

It really seems like GT Life is full of half implemented features as the only thing that makes any difference that I have found is an oil change.

Chassis refresh works on older cars. No amount of wall-banging changes chassis rigidity... Having tens of thousands of miles on the odometer is what destroys it. It's more appreciable on race cars than road cars.

The engine overhaul does wonders on older cars. In GT4, you actually had to buy a new car after about ten thousand miles because power was lost irrecoverably. GT5 gives you the option to rebuild.

The car wash works. Cars get progressively duller in each race as seen in replays and photo mode. Just like in GT4. Unlike GT3, however, cars do not lose top speed. Thankfully, someone at PD seems to be watching Mythbusters.

 

[carlosy]

I bought the Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185 91, changed oil and rebuild the motor and chassis. Then I did one lap on the nordschleife. No crash. After that I could already again rebuild the motor and chassis for each around 200.000.

This must be a joke.

 

[niky]

You can rebuild the motor the moment you use the car.

You don't actually need to.

 

[jjaisli]

The car wash works. Cars get progressively duller in each race as seen in replays and photo mode. Just like in GT4. Unlike GT3, however, cars do not lose top speed. Thankfully, someone at PD seems to be watching Mythbusters.

OK, now I'm really confused. When one of these threads popped up several weeks ago, I made a point to test this myself because I didn't know what to believe. I took one of my cars, drove it in races hundreds and hundreds of km over a week both in wet and dry running, even put on dirt tires and did some rally running. During the races I could see a huge dirt build up. but it always seemed to go way when I started a new race. I then went into photo mode and took pictures. After that, I gave it a wash and went back into photo mode and took some pictures from the same angle. I could not see any difference what-so-ever.

I can't remember if this was before or after the 1.05 patch, although I don't know if that makes a difference either. But I was convinced beyond any doubt that the car wash was simply not a functioning part of the game. At least not yet. Now, I don't know what to think. Maybe it was just the car I was using?

 

[deftonesmx17]

Chassis refresh works on older cars. No amount of wall-banging changes chassis rigidity... Having tens of thousands of miles on the odometer is what destroys it. It's more appreciable on race cars than road cars.

The engine overhaul does wonders on older cars. In GT4, you actually had to buy a new car after about ten thousand miles because power was lost irrecoverably. GT5 gives you the option to rebuild.

The car wash works. Cars get progressively duller in each race as seen in replays and photo mode. Just like in GT4. Unlike GT3, however, cars do not lose top speed. Thankfully, someone at PD seems to be watching Mythbusters.

My X2010 has now 7 24hrs of Le Mans worth of miles on it, still drives the same.

Except for in most instances (excluding race cars and/or uber expensive ones), engine overhaul costs about as much as the car...sometimes more so you might as well buy new.

So how many races does it take? I'd really like to know since the approx. 3400 laps (thats close to 28500 racing miles) I've done with the exact same car on Circuit de la Sarthe has yet to make it look any more dull once I get back to the menu's or start a new race.
Actually how laps and/or miles until I need to do engine overhaul? Simply changing the oil brings mine back to stock bhp.

 

[dmeech]

If i recall correctly I think that in previous Installments of GT washing a car also increases its resale value of car. I tested it out in GT4 but cant remember the results since that was a long time ago.

 

[birksy82]

Actually how laps and/or miles until I need to do engine overhaul? Simply changing the oil brings mine back to stock bhp.

I'm not sure how many miles it takes. I use my fgt for B-Spec grinding and after a lot of endurance events changing the oil would not take it back to the original bhp. So I did the engine overhaul and It's back to normal again , if your x2010 or any other car does the same then that is when I would overhaul the engine.

 

[deftonesmx17]

I'm not sure how many miles it takes. I use my fgt for B-Spec grinding and after a lot of endurance events changing the oil would not take it back to the original bhp. So I did the engine overhaul and It's back to normal again , if your x2010 or any other car does the same then that is when I would overhaul the engine.

I wonder if it has something to do with Used cars only then.
Was your FGT from the UCD or online cars dealership?
I obtained my FGT from the online dealership when I got sick of the "License test skip days" trick after about an hour trying to get it to show in the UCD.

So mine was "New" and I used it for all extreme races (a and b-spec), then used it in b-spec endurance races until lvl 35 when I got the X2010. Oil changes always brought it back to normal and seem to be doing the same now with my X2010.

 

[Tyger]

You can rebuild the motor the moment you use the car.

You don't actually need to.

This.

The point is, it is a standard price for a full rebuild or chassis overhaul, ie. it's the same amount of work regardless of how much it needs it. So just using the car once or twice again will mean it's no longer perfect, but judging just *when* performance is really starting to be impaired and it needs a rebuild, is up to you.

I've been using the same FGT as a grinding mule for weeks, and even with an oil change its power is well down on what it started with. So I could either do the overhauls or get another one, I bought another one even though a fully overhauled one is probably a little better/more powerful

EDIT - Regarding the car wash, it seems to me there is dirt accumulated in-race (i see a lot of dust build up on long races around Laguna Seca for example) and long term dirt, or rather lack of shine. Run a car a few times, focus on it before you wash it and tell me it doesn't look shinier and more reflective once the wash is completed.

 

[daddy mario]

I think i've heard somewhere that it improves the aerodynamics a little..

i certainly don't claim to know myself, but having read this several times, from people who seem to know what they're talking about, i believe it. after all, does it make RL sense to change the oil in a brand new car? no. but does it up your HP in GT5? yes.

and washing your car in RL does make it faster: racing teams ALWAYS make sure their cars are clean... some even baby powder them i've heard. oh the difference is minimal, and not obvious and proveable like the oil change HP boost, but i know I'M going to start washing MY cars!

as for the car getting shinier, i never believed that even in GT4 but people who say the only dirt builds up after a few thousand km know more about it than i do, so again, i believe!