Israel - Palestine discussion thread

[Liquid]

"Only terrorists would use pagers"
RIP doctors, I guess.

It's such a false syllogism that it astonishingly coincides with one of the all time great false syllogisms:

Cutting people is wrong.
Surgeons cut people.
Therefore surgeons are wrong.

 

[ScottPuss20]

And yet you're happy to apply a double-standard and repeatedly defend the side that has also engaged in the indiscriminate targeting of civilians on a massive scale.

Israel is a terrorist state.

I was happy to but now I'm not. No need to get aggressive with me after I've conceded.

 

[Scaff]

I was happy to but now I'm not. No need to get aggressive with me after I've conceded.

Nothing aggressive about my post at all.

 

[inCloud]

Military wing of Hezbollah almost beheaded, there are rumours that Nasralla requesting ceasefire through Qatar(we can imagine how mad Iran government now).

 

[Scaff]

Military wing of Hezbollah almost beheaded, there are rumours that Nasralla requesting ceasefire through Qatar(we can imagine how mad Iran government now).

Source required

 

[p78]

Paging The Hague: Israel’s Exploding Electronics Might Be War Crimes

Experts on international law pointed to the indiscriminate nature of the blasts in Lebanon and the prohibition on booby traps.

theintercept.com

I truly hope they are deemed as war crimes.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Israel really didn't learn from 2006 it seems.

Is the world going to stand by again?

 

[Danoff]

I believe this is an explanation for at least one way to track phones, which may be why Hezbollah and others don't like using phones.

 

[MIE1992]

I know this may not seem all that controversial to say - at least in this thread - but I cannot help but to be skeptical of whether the funds budgeted for the IDF truly help progress American goals and interests in that part of the world. Heck, many Israelis, including my cousin who emigrated there, would argue that Netanyahu doesn't even serve Israeli interests, let alone American ones.

I'm wondering if the money we sent to the Israeli government could be better-spent elsewhere, even if we just limit ourselves to a purely military context - let alone using that money for something like funding upgrades to American infrastructure. (E.g. highways, bridges, internet, etc.) Personally, out of an admittedly morbid curiosity, I'd like to see that NGAD project get funded if it wasn't already.

 

[dylansan]

The US had concluded in two separate reports that Israel had blocked aid to Gaza—a fact which would make sending arms to Israel illegal—and Blinken lied to Congress about it so we could keep sending them.

He needs to resign, yesterday.

Damning Report Reveals How Antony Blinken Lied to Congress on Israel

Leaked documents show that the secretary of state received two explosive reports on Israel blocking aid to Gaza—right before he told Congress the exact opposite.

newrepublic.com

 

[Liquid]

US support of Israel is "ironclad", don't forget.

He might be sacked for lying to Congress but he certainly won't be sacked for allowing arms sales to Israel.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

John Stewart on the "de-escalation through escalation"



I don't think WW2 is the right analogy...but WW1 sure is applicable. Just a bunch of assholes thinking that if they swelled up their chest enough, the other guy would back down.

Also, the "it's anti-Semitism if you criticize our war crimes!" has been part of the Israeli playbook since months after the nation's founding.

 

[Tornado]

Man this is a lot of support Biden is giving for an asshole who wants to get his political rival elected instead.

 

[HenrySwanson]

John Stewart on the "de-escalation through escalation"



I don't think WW2 is the right analogy...but WW1 sure is applicable. Just a bunch of assholes thinking that if they swelled up their chest enough, the other guy would back down.

Also, the "it's anti-Semitism if you criticize our war crimes!" has been part of the Israeli playbook since months after the nation's founding.

Awful.

 

[Touring Mars]

Israel has obliterated the Hezbollah HQ in Beirut, and it's being reported that Israel were specifically targetting the Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah. An Iranian news agency is reporting that Nasrallah is "in a safe place"... I'm guessing there's a good reason how the Iranians are able to say this so quickly.

At least 6 buildings in the southern suburb of Dahieh neighbour of Beirut have been leveled, and given that they are in a densely populated area, there's likely to be a very high death toll.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Screw that whole backward-ass region.

They are always going to be fighting each other.

The people of the book that worships a sadistic being vs the people of the book written by a paedo warlord.

What's not to love.

 

[inCloud]

Screw that whole backward-ass region.

I repeat my previous suggestion - move all Christians from Lebanon to Gaza(and merge it with Israel as federation) and all Gazans into Lebanon(and give all Palestinians here Lebanon citizenship). UN HQ should be moved in Jerusalem, for giggles.

 

[Scaff]

I repeat my previous suggestion - move all Christians from Lebanon to Gaza(and merge it with Israel as federation) and all Gazans into Lebanon(and give all Palestinians here Lebanon citizenship). UN HQ should be moved in Jerusalem, for giggles.

Utterly idiotic and will not solve a damn thing.

 

[McLaren]

So, the solution to "peace" is for Palestinians to basically accept forfeit of their home land to an invading Israel.

Coming from a citizen of a country that's proposed solution to "peace" is for Ukraine to accept forfeit of their eastern home land to an invading Russia....

 

[Joey D]

Imagine just going to hell with countries and segregating people by religion. Never mind that you likely have families in Lebanon where some members are Christian and others are Muslim. So we're just going to break those families apart while completely ignoring where any of them live. Also, what do you do with the Druze population? And I guess if you're an atheist, you just get booted out of the country all the way around? Segregating a population almost never works as intended.