Jaguar F-Type. Damn.

[R5]

I'd cross shop a 12C and a Vanquish, too . They're different, but they're both very good and very charismatic and the only way I could choose would be by driving them. I have a feeling that I'd come away loving one and feeling disappointed with the other.

But you wouldn't compare them in the same way.

You'd probably have good points a both but with the 650s (be gone with your 12c nonsense) you'd be looking at speed and cornering rather than ride and handling.

In the Aston, it'd be the opposite.

A mid engined car will always be looked at differently to a FR car even with similar stats because we have it embedded that a MR layout is more focused and hardcore than FR.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

But you wouldn't compare them in the same way.

You'd probably have good points a both but with the 650s (be gone with your 12c nonsense) you'd be looking at speed and cornering rather than ride and handling.

In the Aston, it'd be the opposite.

A mid engined car will always be looked at differently to a FR car even with similar stats because we have it embedded that a MR layout is more focused and hardcore than FR.

I think you're reading too much into it. I would buy the car that does a better job of making me feel special and involved when I drive it. It's that simple.

 

[Clark]

Let's all be honest here, we'd all go and buy the best (new) car, a 991 GT3.

 

[R5]

Let's all be honest here, we'd all go and buy the best (new) car, a 991 GT3.

[Insert generic comedy laughter]

 

[VXR]

No way in heck I'd choose a 991 GT3 over the F-Type R. One is a poised tool, the other is a well-heeled hoon's joymobile.

 

[Stotty]

A V8 F-Type wouldn't see where a Carrera S went... a GT3 is in a completely different class

A 991 is a sports car. An F-Type isn't.

 

[TheCracker]

It may well be that you've got F-type type people and Cayman type people and that they like those cars no matter what down sides they may have. But that being the case, Jaguar could sell more F-types had they concentrated on making it a little lighter and made it a little more attractive to potential Cayman drivers. Added weight, especially these days, is such a hindrance. It hampers fuel economy and therefore c02 levels - which impacts on tax in many markets. It effects ride and handling. It means you need bigger brakes, bigger wheels, wider tyres etc all of which adds unsprung weight which further dulls 'handling'. It means you need stiff suspension to maintain decent body control which gives you a hard ride - which isn't great for a luxury car, even a sporting one. Sure you can subsequently bring out a hard-core version with composite panels and a stripped out interior and sports seats, but that saves you, what, 100kgs? That's still 250kgs more than it probably should be. And it leaves you with a not very 'Jaguar' Jaguar.

Aston managed to bring their F-type (V8 Vantage) in at under 1650kgs. Why couldn't Jag?

 

[R5]

So, enough of your Porsche nonsense you ruffians.

A yankidoodle got his hands on the R coupe and gave it 613 Bhp. And noise

 

[Stotty]

The 8 does sound very nice 👍

Those slurry auto gear changes sound wrong though

 

[RJS]

We all know how good the F-type V8 sounds but listen to one with a Quicksilver exhaust pure heaven.

 

[Clark]

Still think the V6 sounds much better.

 

[mustafur]

Having heard them in person the V8 destroys the V6 in sound(not that the V6 sounds bad because it doesn't its probably the best sounding V6 ever).

On youtube they sound similar though, no Camera Microphone can show you the difference.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

The V8 has more initial impact, but I'd much rather live with the V6. The V6 is mellower and more melodic, while the V8 is pure shock and awe, and gets old quickly.

 

[Keef]

That V6 sounds pathetic near idle. Absolutely pathetic. I would require straight pipes on mine for sure. Both the Genesis and VQ sound wayyyy better than that.

I'd have to get the V8, fuel mileage aside.

 

[mustafur]

That V6 sounds pathetic near idle. Absolutely pathetic. I would require straight pipes on mine for sure. Both the Genesis and VQ sound wayyyy better than that.

I'd have to get the V8, fuel mileage aside.

There is no way either car you just said have even remotely as good sounding V6s, the F type V6 sounds like a R32 Golf on Steroids which up untill this car was basically the best sounding V6(even though technically its a VR6).

 

[Keef]

I don't think it sounds like a VR6 at all. The Jag is chunky and gross sounding while VR6s are relatively smooth and high pitch. Even straight pipe VR6s are relatively smooth and high:



While most aftermarket VR6 exhausts are smooth as butter and quite high pitched:



The Genesis is similarly high pitched and smooth with a little more mechanical rasp:



The VQ is also high pitched with rasp:



Meanwhile the Jag sounds like it is farting at idle and everywhere else is obnoxiously growly. Just like...omg...just like an old Pontiac! Omg! @Joey D @YSSMAN @Tornado



Pro tip: NOBODY likes old Pontiac V6 exhaust notes. They're all bad, always. It's the weird GM pushrod V6 noise that sounds like it's missing cylinder.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The VQ is distorted by a pathetic factory y-pipe with unequal length headers. Truly and fully uncorked, a VQ sounds absolutely insane.

 

[Keef]

Now that's what a 6 cylinder should sound like, not that lumpy General Motors-esque mess that Jaguar came up with.

 

[mustafur]

I was more or less comparing stock, not an illegal exhuast for road use.

 

[VXR]

I wish my dad's 3.0 V6 S-Type sounded as good as that F-Type! It does sound amazing for a V6, but the V8 is more special to me.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I don't care what the V6 sounds like at idle. If you're spending so much time stationary that the idle noise matters to you, then buy a Camry, not an F-Type.

 

[Clark]

I think at certain points the v6 sounds like Astons V12 and has a richer sound than the V8.

 

[mustafur]

On a weird note I Actually know the owner of that 3.1L V6 Pontiac Grand prix you put up, he posts in another forum I visit.

 

[AudiMan2011]

All-wheel-drive F-Type confirmed for LA.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/m...irms-new-all-wheel-drive-f-type-la-motor-show

 

[R5]

All-wheel-drive F-Type confirmed for LA.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/m...irms-new-all-wheel-drive-f-type-la-motor-show

Here's an area Jaguar beat Porsche hands down: Promo shots. That looks fun

 

[SlipZtrEm]

All this talk of great-sounding V6's, and not a single person mentioned Alfas? For shame. FOR SHAME.

Ah. Jag really is going forward with feeding its already pudgy child more sweets? I'll be curious what the take rate is.

 

[kikie]

An electric F-type would produce the best motor sound one can think of.

 

[R5]

All this talk of great-sounding V6's, and not a single person mentioned Alfas? For shame. FOR SHAME.

Ah. Jag really is going forward with feeding its already pudgy child more sweets? I'll be curious what the take rate is.

Because the sound of a car unable to start is awful.

 

[RJS]

http://thesupercarkids.com/world-debut-jaguar-f-type-r-awd

Jaguar F-Type R AWD and V6 with a manual gearbox confirmed

 

[kikie]

http://thesupercarkids.com/world-debut-jaguar-f-type-r-awd

Jaguar F-Type R AWD and V6 with a manual gearbox confirmed

That's going to change my perception about the F-type completely. I prefer a manual gearbox over the automatic gearbox. Thanks for the heads up.


Yep, I have driven an F-type with an automatic gearbox.