JSTC GT400 (GT300) Season 2 - Winter Test Session 2/9/13 4pm Pst

[phil bell]

I think 3 guys voted both tires, I know me and Skeng did.
I think both tires will mix things up nicely.

And the Cuscos seem fast enough relative to the other cars.

 

[joetruckv8]

And the Cuscos seem fast enough relative to the other cars.

I can respect that!

When you guys say both tires do you mean picking the set that suits the track may it be soft/med or med/hard depending on track?

 

[RodeRuner1967]

4 cars 👎

 

[SkengD]

I can respect that!

When you guys say both tires do you mean picking the set that suits the track may it be soft/med or med/hard depending on track?

Yes 2 diff compounds for each race and mandatory to use one and the driver must start on the same tire they qualify on.

 

[alefin]

Next poll: Car Density
3 cars <----👍
4 cars <----👎

👍

3 cars doesn't make much sense if we're going to do teams.

 

[SkengD]

I thought having 3 car teams would be something interesting and new

 

[ZachAK47]

T down.

Joe, at least your Subaru has a legit race win, the rx7 only won via a penalty, and I'm pretty sure Pepsi hasn't won this season?

 

[alefin]

I thought having 3 car teams would be something interesting and new

I didn't think of it that way. That would be cool. I change my vote to 3.

 

[SkengD]

T down.

Joe, at least your Subaru has a legit race win, the rx7 only won via a penalty, and I'm pretty sure Pepsi hasn't won this season?

Celica has 0 wins too , would be cool if someone won without winning a race

 

[ZachAK47]

Celica has 0 wins too , would be cool if someone won without winning a race

Ha yes it would, but excluding 2 rounds means this can never happen.

 

[SkengD]

Im not sure how you guys will decide the 2 dropped rounds for season 1 ( maybe just drop 1 ) but just have a vote for it for season 2

Maybe do 11 rounds and drop 2 or just dont drop any .

Vote ?

 

[TylerJDallas]

Im not sure how you guys will decide the 2 dropped rounds for season 1 ( maybe just drop 1 ) but just have a vote for it for season 2

Maybe do 11 rounds and drop 2 or just dont drop any .

Vote ?

I may be overstating as I posted this on the active season thread. But I suppose it belongs here.

I don't think we should drop races. If someone didn't show up for a race they didn't get points anyway. So if we're talking about the competitors that showed up for the majority of the races and care about the points table - then how is that beneficial?

If you started the race and got a dnf or a dc, in my mind that's like a mechanical failure or a wreck that took you out of the race.

I made it to all races except 1 or 2... Endured cutting my teeth with league etiquette penalties, dc's and rage quit dnfs. Dropping two races would not give a good representation of my season or any of the other consistent players.

Maybe we adjust the points system so there is more of an impact on dns, dnf, and dc's next season. For example if you have to miss a race you get some points but loose 2 grid spots after you quali for the next race.

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As for teams. Possibly a 3 car team being an odd number will allow greater frequency of 2 teammates on track per race. 4 car teams may create an unfair advantage due to strategy and track position if everyone on the team shows up for weekly practice and races, but another team has less players on track could suffer the hive mind of a 4 car team.

4 car teams would be hard to organize and see on track every week. As it is we only have about 10-12 consistent players. And how would this affect the car selection cap?

TylerJ - 👍 = yes to 3 car teams? Boolean logic here is odd.

*sent from my iOS device. Please excuse grammatical and spelling errors*

 

[joetruckv8]

T down.

Joe, at least your Subaru has a legit race win, the rx7 only won via a penalty, and I'm pretty sure Pepsi hasn't won this season?

Dang your right I hadn't thought of that. 👍

I picked 4 cars too but ill change my vote over to 3 since there are 5 popular cars on grid. all the premiums plus the Celica are going to get picked. 👎

 

[freshseth83]

3 car teams are my idea as well. That leaves 5 or 6 DIFFERENT cars for a 16 man room.

 

[joetruckv8]

3 car teams are my idea as well. That leaves 5 or 6 DIFFERENT cars for a 16 man room.

Ill put you down for 👍 then.

Also I read on the op that 3 people had voted both tires, plus me switching over to the both tires side so that trimmed the tire poll to a 3 category tie!

Also lets start this absurd sorry just my opioin drop worse races deal since Skeng is tryong to cross this bridge and get it out of the way quickly.

Next Poll: Dropped Races
Drop 2 <--- 👍👍
Drop 1 <--- 👍
Drop 0 <--- 👎

JoetruckV8 👎👎,Hehe!

Imo: To add realism to racing, running heavy damage would be the way to go but because were playing from our living rooms/bedrooms if someone took heavy damage they would pull into the pits and call it quits obviously. So when someone does not show up to a race such as a constant front runner like uga, when they don't show up its like they crashed during the race and is out of the points cough*Alonzo*cough and the pack digs into them which keeps the championship fight closer which then keeps more drivers attending to the end of the season. But the main reason why I don't like dropping races is because they simply don't do that in real life, and I know I'm leaving my self open to the statement of ''this is a video game'' but whatever, I try to make it real to my self. Just a my thoughts on this.

 

[freshseth83]

I did some running in the S15 last night. 1:42.2 was my best 1 lap pace around Tokyo Reverse on Softs. Thats not very good compared to the pace of cars this season even on mediums.

 

[BOB0011]

I would be real comfortable allowing SkengD and Zach test all the cars and establish the car regulations. We should end up with a fair competitive field.

 

[freshseth83]

We don't need just two people running cars for specs. We have a good group including me testing now.

 

[SkengD]

I would abandon the silvia and replace it with another car

 

[TylerJDallas]

Ill put you down for 👍 then.

Also I read on the op that 3 people had voted both tires, plus me switching over to the both tires side so that trimmed the tire poll to a 3 category tie!

Also lets start this absurd sorry just my opioin drop worse races deal since Skeng is tryong to cross this bridge and get it out of the way quickly.

Next Poll: Dropped Races
Drop 2 <--- 👍👍
Drop 1 <--- 👍
Drop 0 <--- 👎

JoetruckV8 👎👎,Hehe!

Imo: To add realism to racing, running heavy damage would be the way to go but because were playing from our living rooms/bedrooms if someone took heavy damage they would pull into the pits and call it quits obviously. So when someone does not show up to a race such as a constant front runner like uga, when they don't show up its like they crashed during the race and is out of the points cough*Alonzo*cough and the pack digs into them which keeps the championship fight closer which then keeps more drivers attending to the end of the season. But the main reason why I don't like dropping races is because they simply don't do that in real life, and I know I'm leaving my self open to the statement of ''this is a video game'' but whatever, I try to make it real to my self. Just a my thoughts on this.

100% agreed ---> see season one thread lol.

👎

 

[joetruckv8]

Also would like to cover Seth's idea about the weight ballast system to.

Seth idea: 1st; 40kg. 2nd; 30kg. 3rd; 20kg. 4th; 10kg. 5th; 0kg. 6th; -5kg. 7th; -10kg. 8th; -15kg etc. Vs our current scenario!

I'm sorry Bob we are not running another set of different reg's again that was very stressful for me and Alefin. Honestly everyone has been able to give a fight now, I really don't see what car is not balanced. Skeng has weight on the Celica and still placing nicely. I won in the Cusco the Rx7 can catch a Lexus, and we all agree the Arta's is the fastest car on track so were hitting them with a +10kg which should fix that. So If we give the Celica 10hp and the Arta +10kg which car is still not balanced?

The Silvia is just there and case someone like Veloci wants a challenge. If its slow just don't pick it problem solved. 👍

 

[BOB0011]

Freshseth; If you can add value I am all in favor. I just think it is wise to have some good drivers independently test all the cars and establish the regulations.

 

[BOB0011]

Joetruck: It is not possible to remove more than 10 kg from the Lexus.

 

[freshseth83]

The negative ballast values would go down to the car's minimum weight. Anything beyond that is unthinkable. If you don't get results at the car's minimum weight there's something wrong.

 

[alefin]

Next Poll: Dropped Races
Drop 2 <--- 👍👍
Drop 1 <--- 👍
Drop 0 <--- 👎

👍 👍

I'd vote for heavy damage if that was an option, but that drastically changes the nature of the series, minus any spec changes.

I'd go so far as to say there are only 2 types of races on GTP: ones that are light damage/no damage and ones that are heavy damage. hehehe

 

[joetruckv8]

👍 👍

I'd vote for heavy damage if that was an option, but that drastically changes the nature of the series, minus any spec changes.

I'd go so far as to say there are only 2 types of races on GTP: ones that are light damage/no damage and ones that are heavy damage. hehehe

Here,Here

 

[SkengD]

Tuptup

And id vote for heavy damage too

 

[alefin]

I did some running in the S15 last night. 1:42.2 was my best 1 lap pace around Tokyo Reverse on Softs. Thats not very good compared to the pace of cars this season even on mediums.

Yeah, it's pretty slow

 

[joetruckv8]

I'm not serious, but the champion should drive the Silvia for the next season, lol!

 

[BAZZER]

👍👍 Drop 2 races.

Heavy damage would be good, would be a nightmare for DS3 users though.