Kazunori Yamauchi IAmA @ Reddit (FINISHED)

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I really don't understand why people get so upset by the standards....if you hate them that much, don't look at them...quite simple really.

Because a game with standards is a game where standards are expected to be used, and are expected to show up as AI.

If the game was released with only premiums, and an optional free standard DLC that would integrate them into every mode of the game, I wouldn't have a problem. The game then has to be designed to be completeable without ever seeing a standard. I can play the way I want, and people who love standards can play the way they want.
 
Pretty sure the fate of the GT series is in the hands of those who develop it, not so much members of a fansite giving opinions.

Also, why is Reddit chosen for this kind of stuff? Can't stand that website.
Your question is as good as mine bud.
 
This:

"I think there might be a misunderstanding there. I think I said "almost" every month. I also didn't say "DLC" per se, but that there would be an update almost every month.

On average we're going through one to two updates per month. So I don't think I have broken any promises. I think somewhere along the lines someone may have contorted my words. When you talk about things like Vision Gran Turismo as an example, we have over 30 cars that are going to be involved in that project and that was to be included in a year's time. So when you look at it, my saying that there would be content released almost every month is not too far from the truth.

But the Vision Gran Turismo cars, each car is made with great care at each of the manufacturers, and we can't control when those cars can be completed. So I ask for your understanding."

Is crap, and if GT fails, is why. NO-ONE WANTS YOUR STUPID VISION CARS KAZ
 
Plenty of us want them. Forza and pCars want them, but wont quite admit it. Your post reminds me of a baby spitting out his dummy, trying to get daddy's attention.
Got a source for that?
 
Got a source for that?

What game wouldn't want that level of publicity?

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-roadster-worthersee-2014-05-29

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/car-culture/aston-martin-dp100-vision-gran-turismo-at-goodwood

http://blog.caranddriver.com/start-...rly-radical-could-predict-shape-of-2020-gt-r/

http://wot.motortrend.com/1405_bmw_develops_549_hp_vision_gt_race_car_for_gran_turismo_6.html

Only a fool wouldn't want those cars.

And you remind me of a kid whose uncle touched him in the game room, point?

Seriously, your telling me, you want "fantasy cars" that will never be produced, that you could ever drive, all with EXTREMELY PADDED "handling, performance, power" because no manufacturer wants to admit their ridiculous looking design is actually extremely heavy, has no suspension travel or ducted suction fans hunkering it down to the earth? Plus the only real chance to drive it is a freaking hot-lap seasonal?

Over more customization, more standards converted to premium, more tracks, course maker, more robust online features?

Oh yeah, sign me up.

Jesus! Nobody told me we had to choose between the course maker and the VGTs! Where was I when that memo came out?

Of course that's not actually true and you're being facetious for the sake of dumping on GT.

The VGTs have been very popular deal with it.
 
Publicity doesn't sale games. I'm pretty sure no-one is going to run out of their house in their underwear to go get GT6 because Road And Track wrote a 3 paragraph about a concept. Concepts are just that; concepts. They usually go no further than their little hype party, and some roped in area in a show room. If I see one GT Vision car, in real life doing laps around a track, e.g Mazda Furai, I will eat my shorts.
 
Publicity doesn't sale games. I'm pretty sure no-one is going to run out of their house in their underwear to go get GT6 because Road And Track wrote a 3 paragraph about a concept. Concepts are just that; concepts. They usually go no further than their little hype party, and some roped in area in a show room. If I see one GT Vision car, in real life doing laps around a track, e.g Mazda Furai, I will eat my shorts.

What? If once every month or two someone like C/D or TopGear writes a little blurb about some cool concept car that's only going to be in GT6 someone isn't going to go "wow, GT6 sure is getting a lot of cool cars" and buy it?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you don't work at an ad agency?
 
If you think GT6 sales are horrid, better check the rear view mirror for Forza 5.

I take it you are happy with mario's latest karting adventure?

Tip for you: If you have nothing of value to add to any discussion you participate in, short of these having-nothing-to-do-with-anything quips, don't reply.

It's not a request.
 
Expain why GT6 sales are horrid then

Easiest question I've had all day.

GT6 launched for the PS3 on 12/6/13. The PS4 launched on 11/15/13 with the biggest launch in console history. How many people are going to buy a game for an old console during the holidays when it's competing against not only it's usual competition but a newer, monstrously successful console that will without a doubt get a GT game of it's own just a few years down the road

Oh, and sales aren't horrid. I'm sure Turn 10, Codemasters, Ghost games, or slightly mad studios would all love to have sales as "horrid" as GT6.
 
NO-ONE WANTS YOUR STUPID VISION CARS KAZ
I do.

Seriously, your telling me, you want "fantasy cars" that will never be produced, that you could ever drive
Not really fantasy as the majority of them have been shown in 1:1. So yes. Because I want to drive something besides a mass produced car that I drive every day. You can say the same with any race car, or a track for the matter. You'll never do it.

Over more customization, more standards converted to premium, more tracks, course maker, more robust online features?
Customization? Can do without. More standards converted to premium? Probably will happen regardless of concept cars existence. More tracks? Getting them anyway. Course Maker? Will probably be fun for a couple hours. More Online features? Can absolutely do without.
 
If you think GT6 sales are horrid, better check the rear view mirror for Forza 5.

I take it you are happy with mario's latest karting adventure?
Forza wasn't sold on a well established console, nor did I compare GT to Forza. Forza did however land better reviews, and had a more consistent product.

And yes, I am happy with mario's latest karting adventure... Even though I don't own a Nintendo. Because unlike GT, Mario kart gives its fans what it wants, instead of making it's own "vision".

Why must you fanboys consistently grovel at the crap PD shoves out? Can anyone around here not be happy with the direction that this franchise is headed? The last good GT was GT4, that was over 10 years ago. How is this acceptable in todays standard, the only reason I'm mad, is there is no good driving games. Forza has weak handling. GT has horrible customization, sound, online, content, AI, but yet I play it because the physics are good. PCARs will have zero customization, Grid Autosport is not a sim. No PC sims offer any real additional value, and Drive Club is a joke.

I do.


Not really fantasy as the majority of them have been shown in 1:1. So yes. Because I want to drive something besides a mass produced car that I drive every day. You can say the same with any race car, or a track for the matter. You'll never do it.


Customization? Can do without. More standards converted to premium? Probably will happen regardless of concept cars existence. More tracks? Getting them anyway. Course Maker? Will probably be fun for a couple hours. More Online features? Can absolutely do without.
Shown in 1:1 is not reality, those 1:1's are full sized models, not functional, drive able cars. No engineering went into them, they are an artists renditions, there is no actual performance, sure it may have an engine, but its not the one they "claim" in the Vision GT description, it does not put out what it says on paper, and it hasn't been track tested, the balance is probably horrible. So essentially your driving someone's idea of that car's handling in game. Nothing based on actual facts or physics.

Thats great that you can do without, but not everyone is you. Not everyone likes to chase the rabit, and pass moving chicanes around a track. Some like a challenge, and to race real opponents, and not take hours to find a decent room. And customization is part of car culture, this is about not wanting to drive an everyday out of the box, factory car, its a billion dollar industry, and has been around since the model T.
 
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He has a point. You said Vision GT cars help a game, but it hasn't helped GT6 compared to GT5 sells. vision gt cars aren't as important as you think.

That would hold up better if the VGT cars were the only variable between GT5 and GT6 or if we knew what GT6 would be selling like without them. But it's undeniable that it's a good thing for PD if GT is consistently in automotive news.
 
That would hold up better if the VGT cars were the only variable between GT5 and GT6 or if we knew what GT6 would be selling like without them. But it's undeniable that it's a good thing for PD if GT is consistently in automotive news.
My case and point with the Gt vision cars, is that its valuable resources that PD isn't spending on making the experience as a whole better.

Honestly I'd be ecstatic if even one Vision GT car was scrapped for a premium BMW E30, or AE86, livery editor, or engine swaps.
 
Some of those usernames I've seen on the thread are just hilarious....
Did he mention anything on the Spain track that we were promised nearly 5 months ago.
 
Thats great that you can do without, but not everyone is you. Not everyone likes to chase the rabit, and pass moving chicanes around a track. Some like a challenge, and to race real opponents, and not take hours to find a decent room. And customization is part of car culture, this is about not wanting to drive an everyday out of the box, factory car, its a billion dollar industry, and has been around since the model T.
I didn't buy the game for everyone else. I bought it because it meets what I find entertaining. Mostly time trials. GT is a enjoyable game to me.

I find it odd, you blab about car customization. But concept cars have no place? They're the start, and they're very intriguing. But to each their own.

Forza Motorsport sounds like the game for you.
 
My case and point with the Gt vision cars, is that its valuable resources that PD isn't spending on making the experience as a whole better.

Honestly I'd be ecstatic if even one Vision GT car was scrapped for a premium BMW E30, or AE86, livery editor, or engine swaps.

That's all fine and dandy, but you made a sweeping generalization that nobody wants them when people obviously do.

You should also know that the people who work on making the cars aren't the same people who work on things like the course maker or the AI. Also, don't assume that the VGTs are kepping us from getting a BMW E30 or the like. If we had never gotten them before why would we get them now?

Some of those usernames I've seen on the thread are just hilarious....
Did he mention anything on the Spain track that we were promised nearly 5 months ago.

Sadly no.
 
That would hold up better if the VGT cars were the only variable between GT5 and GT6 or if we knew what GT6 would be selling like without them. But it's undeniable that it's a good thing for PD if GT is consistently in automotive news.
Improving the game itself and marketing that is in my opinion far more important than concept cars. Besides, GT was a huge franchise before this idea was made and from my experience fans of driving games want to drive real cars and not fantasy or concept cars. Those cars are only for a small audience in my opinion.
 
Because a game with standards is a game where standards are expected to be used, and are expected to show up as AI.
And there is a very clear reason for that, if they were to have only premium cars then half of the grid variety would be gone, and the game would suffer dearly for it.

Before the thing becomes "oh noes, is 200 MX-5s", as it happens, many standard cars help give the game some variety and leverage, even though there are as much as 200 duplicates (that I do agree should be gone from the series) people simply can't ignore much of the game content that complements the rest of the game. Many aspects of the game are based under such a thing, one of the latest seasonal as an example has included LMP1 cars, in order to fill a 12 car grid Pescarolo cars, Audi R10 TDI, and the upgraded Bentley LM car fill those grids, these cars work in par with premiums (physics and AI) so is nonsensical to have them gone in favour of eye candy, and keep the diversity at almost at 12 different models per race ratio.
If the game was released with only premiums, and an optional free standard DLC that would integrate them into every mode of the game, I wouldn't have a problem. The game then has to be designed to be completeable without ever seeing a standard. I can play the way I want, and people who love standards can play the way they want.
Forza games suffer heavily from this and sometimes the specs of the cars they choose simply struggle, making nearly every race a race against a single car model (this was the case for A class in most of the series, a car dominated the class and most of the races in career mode, it eventually became a game of beating x car for any event that had that met the a class criteria, like proper a class races, or Italian car based events, or sports cars race events, all of them different events but it would always have a F430 to beat, making racing monotonous).

In a game that is heavy influenced on numbers is really hard to halve much of the content in favour of eye candy and selected cars, old DTM cars are heavily used in 550pp and 600pp events to complement the grids, which nearly all the times have 12 to 16 different models on them, so even if people don't like them they have a necessary function within the game, I don't use them but I have fun racing against them and is always nice to have that sense of diversity in the game while racing.

Personally, if I were to choose between racing against just 3 models of a premium car, instead of 3 premium car models and 6 standards that are different, I'll just take the later because is more varied and offer more options. I do not find acceptable the duplicates (because people who want to jump into this statement well just go for it), however claiming that the game would simply not work or that would be unplayable is a different story altogether, it would alter the game visual consistency however I do not find it bothering, though I understand why people would not be okay with it.
 
Improving the game itself and marketing that is in my opinion far more important than concept cars. Besides, GT was a huge franchise before this idea was made and from my experience fans of driving games want to drive real cars and not fantasy or concept cars. Those cars are only for a small audience in my opinion.

But this isn't a one or the other proposition. The VGTs aren't stopping PD from improving the game.
 
But they do seem to be stopping them from adding real cars. :\ Ugh, want my Ford Focus RS/or RS500.

Do they? What's the basis for that conclusion? Did we not just get two real cars? We've gotten what? 7 new real cars since GT6 came out right? 7 cars in the same number of months is pretty good. Especially when you consider we didn't get anything in GT5 till a year after it came out...and we had to buy those.
 
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