London and England riots

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From what I've read the looting in Birmingham has been concentrated on the city centre (unlike London where its in residential areas too) and there are no reports of arson so its less likely their are serious injuries

Its on Birmingham too, dammit, it has gone a bit out of hand, should the Army or whatever law enforcement attended the situation(after all, it's not a political repression, is damage control).
 
You are asking if that is acceptable solution.
It's not an overall solution, it's just the solution to protect people in danger.
Worry about the people, then any property afterwards.
Let London burn if it has to burn. Evacuate the whole population to France or something, it doesn't matter. My point was just prioritising people over buildings.
And that i'm against people with guns getting involved.
I don't know what the big solution is, just my concerns about developments.
I just imagine weaponised force making the situation much worse. And perhaps morally wrong. But I'm all ears to the debate and options.

Im sorry, but that is the biggest load of rubbish i've read in a long time.
 
Let's hope the rioting doesn't spread anywhere else. If it does, then where's next?

Anywhere there are unhappy people and shops

EDIT- Reports on facebook say trouble in Liverpool but lots of misinformation has been given out today
 
Let London burn if it has to burn. Evacuate the whole population to France or something, it doesn't matter. My point was just prioritising people over buildings.

Your solutions to protect civilians are naive in the extreme. So much so, your posts could almost be considered as trolling, given they are so outlandish.
 
I'm hearing reports that they're on my road. :nervous:

It's a long road though and I don't hear anything outside.
 
Moot
Are from a regime? You seem to know little of debate.

This coming from the one who suggested "releasing the lions" and letting a historic city burn.

Stay safe, DQuaN!
 
You know what would also protect the people in danger? Ending the riots.

That's true, good point.
But they might get worse if ended in the "wrong" way.
Which is why this situation is so difficult for the police right now.
They are precisely not doing what people on this forum are suggesting. Because they are experts.

This coming from the one who suggested "releasing the lions" and letting a historic city burn.

Stay safe, DQuaN!

Yes, but I like to let people have the benefit of deciding what kind of point or satire I'm making. There are times when it get's lost.
I'm not a regular crowd pleasing stand up comic of observational comedy.
 
This whole situation is getting worse by the hour, I dread to think what im going to wake upto in the morning.

That's true, good point.
But they might get worse if ended in the "wrong" way.
Which is why this situation is so difficult for the police right now.
They are precisely not doing what people on this forum are suggesting. Because they are experts.

From what ive seen and heard, they have lost the streets and have no force to reclaim them. In the present form they are impotent and need help. This isnt just going to go away.
 
The worrying thing is, the police cannot arrest people because they need as many officers as possible on the street. When officers make arrests, they need to take the perpetrators in and go with them to the station.

The longer this continues, the more people realise how easy it is to rampage and thieve and walk away without being stopped. Even when the police arrive at the scenes of looting, they can only "disperse" the criminals, and not seize them.

So... you can go and get your thrills: Maybe nab some free merchandise, smash some stuff up, and even clash with the police and you're not even gonna get caught.. You're gonna get a lot of takers for that experience.
 
This whole situation is getting worse by the hour, I dread to think what im going to wake upto in the morning.



From what ive seen and heard, they have lost the streets and have no force to reclaim them. In the present form they are impotent and need help. This isnt just going to go away.

So perhaps they need extra police from other regional forces?

There must be certain individuals who are stoking this up, leaders perhaps.
Getting the control on them as quick as possible is imperative.
There has to be some intelligence on this.

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How long did the riots last for the student fees protest thing?
This might be a simple human behaviour pattern thing, and might fizzle out in about the same time as the last examples have done. Just by itself.
 
My favourite pub is being smashed in. My friends who own the place are hiding upstairs. This is awful.
 
My favourite pub is being smashed in. My friends who own the place are hiding upstairs. This is awful.

Stay safe, my friend. I hope your friends are not hurt.
 
So perhaps they need extra police from other regional forces?

There must be certain individuals who are stoking this up, leaders perhaps.
Getting the control on them as quick as possible is imperative.
There has to be some intelligence on this.

I'm sure they have sourced Police from other forces. But it takes time, and by the time the police arrive, the idiots would have set fire to something, nicked their swag and moved on.

This isnt organised, it is mindless violence.
 
That furniture store fire is terrifying, and its really impressive, such a shame for the workers and owners of those stores.
 
I am down the road from a few of the riots and know all the places well. I am very proud to be ENglish but these people need ot be shot!
 
So perhaps they need extra police from other regional forces?

There must be certain individuals who are stoking this up, leaders perhaps.
Getting the control on them as quick as possible is imperative.
There has to be some intelligence on this.

....

How long did the riots last for the student fees protest thing?
This might be a simple human behaviour pattern thing, and might fizzle out in about the same time as the last examples have done. Just by itself.

This is nothing like the student riots. That began for a specific political reason and then got a little out of control. The level of violence and destruction here is massively different and this it's criminality for the sake of it with no political agenda.

The other thing is, there aren't much spare riot police lying around the country, and normal officers are fairly powerless (and actually in danger of being killed by bricks etc..) vs the kind of numbers that are grouping.
 
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