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But they were. Christian fundamentalist and freemason with a hatred for everything not christian in general and islam in particular.
Major explosion and shooting in Oslo
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But they were. Christian fundamentalist and freemason with a hatred for everything not christian in general and islam in particular.
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I can't even begin to describe my disgust for extremism, of all types, and now there is indication that it was religously motivated. The world doesn't need more of this madness.
Edit: Now there are reports of an arrest of man armed with a knife at prime minister Stoltenbergs visit to the island.
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7724065
Edit: Now there are reports of an arrest of man armed with a knife at prime minister Stoltenbergs visit to the island.
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7724065
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- CiaranGTR94
When I said that, I had no idea how chillingly prophetic it was. Considering that he was a Christian fundamentalist, I won't be surprised if this is used as ammo in the USA against Michelle Bachmann.
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- TheGermanBastorD
Wtf, yesterday they said "only" 10 people on the island got killed. Now they are saying at least 84 on the island (20 are still in crytical condition) & 8 in Oslo (bomb). 
A eyewitness said it lasted 45 minutes, he shot every 10 seconds, he first shot with his pistol & finished the people off with his shot gun, with a head shot! What a sick guy.
The guy really deserves to get cut in 1000 slices by Dexter, very very slowly.
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A eyewitness said it lasted 45 minutes, he shot every 10 seconds, he first shot with his pistol & finished the people off with his shot gun, with a head shot! What a sick guy.
The guy really deserves to get cut in 1000 slices by Dexter, very very slowly.
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- Skatenj
**** that this man doesnt deserve execution,or life in prison
he deserves to be tied down for the rest of his life with a tube rammed down his throat feeding him nutrients while he gets daily intense beating for the rest of his life
if they do choose execution let his head be put in a box with a bunch of hungry rats
****ing people what has this world come to where **** like this is allowed to happen
he deserves to be tied down for the rest of his life with a tube rammed down his throat feeding him nutrients while he gets daily intense beating for the rest of his life
if they do choose execution let his head be put in a box with a bunch of hungry rats
****ing people what has this world come to where **** like this is allowed to happen
What i have gotten out of swedish and norwegian medias is that he lured them out in a big group by saying that it was a rutine check after the bombing and then started to shoot at everyone. I have seen numbers over 90!! deaths so far :s . some even drowned trying to swim away ( the atlantic is next door = cold water). one kid even had to play dead lying on the ground next to his dead friends to survive. As a "kid" in the same age I cant really imagine how it must have been :S
Everything points to be a solo job, by Anders Behring Breivik.
My thinking about this that is a solo job, the planning and execution of the plan point towards a solo job, or maybe two-man job, the guy has some political background and multifaceted political views, thus far not related to middle east insurgents, these attacks are more similar to the attacks on Columbine or other attacks conducted by a single person, the charges were remote and the guy planned accordingly the massacre in other to provoke the largest amount of victims in a non public area, targeting a certain political group in a private area, which is not a Terrorist M.O.
Its not always the Islamic, there is no reason to attack Norway, apart from that, several countries in Europe also assist coalition forces in Afghanistan and Iraq, with greater and more effective presence than Norway.
Having said that, I just cannot help but giving condolences to the families and friends of the victims for these attacks.
My thinking about this that is a solo job, the planning and execution of the plan point towards a solo job, or maybe two-man job, the guy has some political background and multifaceted political views, thus far not related to middle east insurgents, these attacks are more similar to the attacks on Columbine or other attacks conducted by a single person, the charges were remote and the guy planned accordingly the massacre in other to provoke the largest amount of victims in a non public area, targeting a certain political group in a private area, which is not a Terrorist M.O.
Its not always the Islamic, there is no reason to attack Norway, apart from that, several countries in Europe also assist coalition forces in Afghanistan and Iraq, with greater and more effective presence than Norway.
Having said that, I just cannot help but giving condolences to the families and friends of the victims for these attacks.
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This couldn't easily be a terrorist group, I mean, who has any beef with Norway?
I think he was out for the Prime Minister. He bombed the place where the Prime Minister lives (What was said by ABC news) and gunned down people where the Prime Minister was supposed to be in a few days. As ABC news said, the man was a Vet. in the army, and had a few disagreements with the current government. Of course being America, and our news being more corrupt than Berny Madolf, they instantly switched to the famous, "What does this mean for America?"
I think the bomber should have focused on these people, I mean, yes its a terrible thing to wish, but seriously? How much of an ignorant asshole can you be, to ask what it means to America, that a man bombed a building in Norway, and opened fire on a Youth Camp? I'll tell you what it means! Jack 🤬, because I can grant you the sad fact that most Americans don't really care what happened. Rant=over.
I think he was out for the Prime Minister. He bombed the place where the Prime Minister lives (What was said by ABC news) and gunned down people where the Prime Minister was supposed to be in a few days. As ABC news said, the man was a Vet. in the army, and had a few disagreements with the current government. Of course being America, and our news being more corrupt than Berny Madolf, they instantly switched to the famous, "What does this mean for America?"
I think the bomber should have focused on these people, I mean, yes its a terrible thing to wish, but seriously? How much of an ignorant asshole can you be, to ask what it means to America, that a man bombed a building in Norway, and opened fire on a Youth Camp? I'll tell you what it means! Jack 🤬, because I can grant you the sad fact that most Americans don't really care what happened. Rant=over.
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I hope not. Norwegian police are now saying that they have the impression (from Internet sources) that the shooter is not a neonazi or right-wing extremist, but a Christian fundamentalist.
source (Dutch)
First off, my prayers go out to Norway for what happened.
As for what I bolded, that could be some real bad news. 
--- Randy
My thoughts are with everyone in Norway and especially anyone directly affected by this horrific attack, the cruelty of targeting a group of young people is impossible to comprehend.
The suspect has admitted he carried out the attacks so will certainly be behind bars for the rest of his life but this is no justice or consolation for those who have been killed or hurt.
The suspect has admitted he carried out the attacks so will certainly be behind bars for the rest of his life but this is no justice or consolation for those who have been killed or hurt.
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He published a 1500 page manifesto which he then sent to parties in scandinavia an hour or so before the bomb went off. In there he calls himself a crusader or templar knight. He also states his beliefs in christianity as well as sionism.
He also describes his plans and how to make bombs etc. Apparently he's been planning this for years.
Here's a link if anyone wants to read it.
http://www.2shared.com/document/YYBuLNa5/2083-AEuropeanDeclarationofInd.html?
Scary stuff.
He also describes his plans and how to make bombs etc. Apparently he's been planning this for years.
Here's a link if anyone wants to read it.
http://www.2shared.com/document/YYBuLNa5/2083-AEuropeanDeclarationofInd.html?
Scary stuff.
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R.i.P. to the victims. What a sad world, so many children got shoot because they were on the wrong places at the wrong times.
Im still not sure about that. From what Ive read so far in the internet, Breivik used a Glock 18 and a shot gun (dont know the type). I know this sounds cruel, but even if he was a highly proffessional rifle man and only need 3-4 rounds for each victim (Which I highly doubt, not with this guns + from what Ive read about him, Breivik has no background as a soldier?), it would still be a lot of ammunation he need to do this cruel act.
I don`t know, but maybe he had some help from other guys who are yet to be arrested.
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uhm i dont want to sound as a conspiracy theorist, maybe I should give another example:
My cousin is doing his military service currently. Few weeks ago they got a test in their unit (don`t know how to describe it in english) were they had to shoot 10 bullets in burst fire mode with a G36 at a target (dont know the distance, but the target was not moving). My cousin was one of the best in his unit with hitting 6 from 10 directly into the hitzone. His sergeant(?) said to him, that this was really good because even highly professional soldiers from special commandos only manage to do 7 or 8 on avarage.
So, I have never held a gun in my life, but I think its not that easy to shoot with such a precision.
Im still not sure about that. From what Ive read so far in the internet, Breivik used a Glock 18 and a shot gun (dont know the type). I know this sounds cruel, but even if he was a highly proffessional rifle man and only need 3-4 rounds for each victim (Which I highly doubt, not with this guns + from what Ive read about him, Breivik has no background as a soldier?), it would still be a lot of ammunation he need to do this cruel act.
I don`t know, but maybe he had some help from other guys who are yet to be arrested.
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uhm i dont want to sound as a conspiracy theorist, maybe I should give another example:
My cousin is doing his military service currently. Few weeks ago they got a test in their unit (don`t know how to describe it in english) were they had to shoot 10 bullets in burst fire mode with a G36 at a target (dont know the distance, but the target was not moving). My cousin was one of the best in his unit with hitting 6 from 10 directly into the hitzone. His sergeant(?) said to him, that this was really good because even highly professional soldiers from special commandos only manage to do 7 or 8 on avarage.
So, I have never held a gun in my life, but I think its not that easy to shoot with such a precision.
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My thoughts and prayers for all the victims and their families
This chills me right to the bone, so sickening. It scares me when I put it into perspective that there's about 120 people or so within my school grade and to imagine about 80 or 90 of them get killed horrifically like that.
This chills me right to the bone, so sickening. It scares me when I put it into perspective that there's about 120 people or so within my school grade and to imagine about 80 or 90 of them get killed horrifically like that.
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No. It'll be 21 years, under current laws, granted if he is lucky enough to end up in court while current laws are in effect - the newer laws raises it to 30.
But, there is a secondary penalty for anyone who proves to be a threat to society, and that is "evaluatory confinement", which essentially is a five year extension to the jail-sentence, and is also renewable every five years, if the prisoner can be a danger to society then.
But, if he gets out, the tables will have turned, and society will be out to get him.
But, there is a secondary penalty for anyone who proves to be a threat to society, and that is "evaluatory confinement", which essentially is a five year extension to the jail-sentence, and is also renewable every five years, if the prisoner can be a danger to society then.
But, if he gets out, the tables will have turned, and society will be out to get him.
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Even if they where to raise the maximum sentence to say 50 years tomorrow they still can't sentence him to that because he was arrested before that law was put in effect, hence he would be sentenced to maximum 21 years.
This is the key in this case. This effectively allows the Norwegian justice system to keep extremely dangerous individuals imprisoned for as long as necessary.
I agree. If anything, it would be in HIS best interest to stay behind bars, for his own safety.
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Oh, God. I just saw an ad for a "special report" comign up on the evening news, about "the role that violent video war-games" played in the massacre.
Video games don't cause violence. People who are unable to distinguish between reality and fantasy cause violence. And given the revelations of the past twenty-four hours, Breivik has bigger issues than playing CALL OF DUTY too often.
Video games don't cause violence. People who are unable to distinguish between reality and fantasy cause violence. And given the revelations of the past twenty-four hours, Breivik has bigger issues than playing CALL OF DUTY too often.
So the media are trying to avoid the known fact that he was acting in the name of the christian god now?
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No, they just grab at anything that can help them run a story - in Australia, legislation has recently been passed to make an adults only classification for games. You can bet that they'll mention it in the "special report".
As expected, the media have latched onto the video game angle. Apparently, Breivik used MODERN WARFARE 2 to "train". However, the press have selectvely edited things to show the infamous "No Russian" stage (which, admittedly, never should have been made), cut with a voiceover about "What does it take to start the next global conflict? The will of one man.", directly implying that Breivik got his ideas from the game.
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And yet they haven't mentioned the fact that he, like all able-bodied Norwegian citizens, has done military service. I've played GTA games since I was around 14, and I don't go on a rampage or steal cars from pensioners.
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Strange. Do you have a link to this/these articles?
It wouldn't add up that he used MW2 as inspiration. After all, he used 9 years planning this. This sounds like someone with an anti-video game agenda simply exploiting these events in their favour. In the Norwegian media his video game activities have only been mentioned briefly.
What's more disturbing is that he actually used steroids to boost his rage and give himself a sense of beeing invincible.
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It was a television report, not an article.[Nor]MclarenF1;5640791
