Major League Baseball: 2011 Thread

  • Thread starter JohnBM01
  • 770 comments
  • 34,758 views
As am I, I would much rather see St. Louis win over the Rangers. Even before the Ranger beat the Tiger's I disliked them, for some reason the team comes off as a bunch of d-bag. I'm still disappointed I'm not seeing a Detroit v. Arizona World Series, I think that would have been some great baseball.
 
Rangers looks unbeatable to me, but on the other hand, Cardinals has proven me wrong at the every step. :P
 
I'm wondering how the NL home-field advantage can pull into the Cardinals favor. Reducing someone like Napster and/or Young to only one AB per game could make a big difference. Plus, you have to figure that coming off the bench to hit and DHing are not even close to the same thing. It's a totally different mindset.

On the other hand, having the DH rule in Texas wouldn't hurt the Cardinals line-up. Berkman has already been a DH in New York so he seems like the perfect option, but TLR is has a mind that doesn't function like most peoples' so it'll be interesting to see how it all breaks down.

I'm excited. This is the series I predicted when the playoffs began and I'll be happy for either team. I'm hoping for a 7-gamer.
 
There are petitions and stuff to try to keep the Astros in the National League and not in the AL West. My sorry ass, pathetic 2011 Astros are having their own issues while the other Texas baseball team is playing for all the marbles. I love to say this as a Texan but hate as a Houstonian- Dallas may have itself more swagger after the NBA's Mavericks won. In other words... I think the Rangers will win the World Series. I am hating to see the Cardinals, with former Astros playing for the Cards, win the title.

I've stopped caring about this season once my team continually lost. Still, I will go with the Rangers to win it all for 2011.
 
It looks to me like the Cards are a team of destiny this year. Much as I dislike the wildcard idea, I'm hoping they pull it off against Texas.

Really? Texas is stronger in every facet.



As am I, I would much rather see St. Louis win over the Rangers. Even before the Ranger beat the Tiger's I disliked them, for some reason the team comes off as a bunch of d-bag. I'm still disappointed I'm not seeing a Detroit v. Arizona World Series, I think that would have been some great baseball.
Really? Texas seems to have lots of class. Last year when the Giants won it all lots of the Texas fans stood there and gave a round of applause to the Giants. The environments in both parks was really friendly.


Next year. ;)
Nope, unless you plan on winning the Wild Card ;)

I'm wondering how the NL home-field advantage can pull into the Cardinals favor. Reducing someone like Napster and/or Young to only one AB per game could make a big difference. Plus, you have to figure that coming off the bench to hit and DHing are not even close to the same thing. It's a totally different mindset.

On the other hand, having the DH rule in Texas wouldn't hurt the Cardinals line-up. Berkman has already been a DH in New York so he seems like the perfect option, but TLR is has a mind that doesn't function like most peoples' so it'll be interesting to see how it all breaks down.

I'm excited. This is the series I predicted when the playoffs began and I'll be happy for either team. I'm hoping for a 7-gamer.

Young can still play the field just fine... Its just they have better options, he will play 1b like he did in the DS and CS. Moreland is struggling, but so is he.

Offense shouldn't be a issue with Texas... they 10x deeper then any team in baseball in that regard. But they need to get used to playing in a pitchers park (STL) that will be their biggest issue. Giants have historically murdered Texas at home, in fact I think the Rangers have yet to win a single game at AT&T.

This is going to be a bullpen and offense series.
 
One thing I love about the post-season is that it renders the regular season meaningless. The game is played in an entirely different way. On paper the Rangers should win in four or 5 games, but that isn't how it always works out.

The Cardinals shouldn't even have made the playoffs. They only scraped in because Atlanta lost their top two starters to injury. The Cardinals were undermatched in every facet of the game to Milwaukee and Philly, their best pitcher has missed the entire season due to surgery, and one of their best up-and-coming hitters was traded midseason for four nobodies. Furcal is healthy and almost playing to his full capacity, Berkman has exploded, Freese came out of nowhere...

Yes the Rangers have one of the sickest lineups 1-9 + bench that I have ever seen, but so did this years' Red Sox. For crazy reasons like that I ofgive the Cardinals more of a shot than my traditional baseball logic allows. The last time the Cardinals won the World Series they barely had a winning regular season record. They only got into the playoffs because someone out of the NL Central had to, no matter how horrendous the record.

All-time mediocre player David Eckstein was the WS MVP that year. David Eckstein: he with heart, scrappiness, grit, and completely unremarkable measurable stats in every category.

I give it to the Cardinals in 7 games, even though my brain says I'm wrong.
 
I rarely follow MLB, and was caught off guard when fans started cheering for the Cardinals. I had completely forgot that All-Star game decided the World Series home field. Very unconventional, but I always thought that was neat. Especially tonight. :P
 
I prefer NL-style baseball anyways. An ironic twist? CJ Wilson gave up the go-ahead 3-run home run to Prince Fielder at the All-Star game. :lol:
 
I need to talk about some baseball.. so I'm going to pick your post apart a little here :)


One thing I love about the post-season is that it renders the regular season meaningless. The game is played in an entirely different way. On paper the Rangers should win in four or 5 games, but that isn't how it always works out.

On papers the Cardinals are much better then people are giving them. But not even the regular season is played on paper.

The Cardinals shouldn't even have made the playoffs. They only scraped in because Atlanta lost their top two starters to injury. The Cardinals were undermatched in every facet of the game to Milwaukee and Philly, their best pitcher has missed the entire season due to surgery, and one of their best up-and-coming hitters was traded midseason for four nobodies. Furcal is healthy and almost playing to his full capacity, Berkman has exploded, Freese came out of nowhere...

The Cards should of made the playoffs, they played better over 162. They were only that far behind because they spent so much time without Holliday, and had no Wainwright and Pujols was struggling in the first half. A 10 games losing streak in September is just as bad as a 10 game losing streak in April. Cardinals had better pitching then Milwaukee does and a millions time better defense. Defense is HUGE in the playoffs and the Brewers have some of the worst defenders at multiple positions. (Fielder, Betencourt, Braun, McGehee) the Brewers lack an Ace, a pitcher that is more often then not overwhelming.

The Phillies lack a shut down bullpen and their offense is very one sided. Victorino is really their only right handed threat but he is more often then not hitting from the left side. If Philly really want to be all that, they need a better bullpen.

Furcal isn't really playing all that well, is been great in the field but offensively there isn't much there. And Berkman really didn't 'explode' he did have a hell of a season buts only an 'average' season for him. He did have a off year last year but his line is about the same as his career average.
2011: .301/.409/.547/.959
Carrer: .296/.409/.545/.954

And Freese is pretty well known for people in the prospect circle, so is Allen Craig. They both have tons of potential. Freese dealt with injuries this year, but other then that hes been good.


Yes the Rangers have one of the sickest lineups 1-9 + bench that I have ever seen, but so did this years' Red Sox. For crazy reasons like that I ofgive the Cardinals more of a shot than my traditional baseball logic allows. The last time the Cardinals won the World Series they barely had a winning regular season record. They only got into the playoffs because someone out of the NL Central had to, no matter how horrendous the record.

Yeah but the Red Sox had very meh starting pitching and a very meh bullpen. Crawford isn't half the player they are paying him to be. In any other division he would struggle to hit more then 10 HRs. That's his biggest problem, he tries to be the big middle of the order bat he is payed to be. He needs to learn discipline and get on base where he is effective. For heavens sake, his career OPS+ is 105 in a division where every park is a huge hitters park and no team with an very good pitching staff. Do you know who else has a career with a OPS+ of 105? Cody Ross. Who has more patience and much more power. Food for thought. Red Sox still have a very good team but they aren't that mega all star team they were taunted as.

Your right, playoffs and regular season are completely different. In the playoffs its all about individual match ups and getting early leads and going all out every second of the way. You can't play like that in the regular season or your whole team will end up like the Giants, injured, tired and struggling.

All-time mediocre player David Eckstein was the WS MVP that year. David Eckstein: he with heart, scrappiness, grit, and completely unremarkable measurable stats in every category.
Eckstein isn't bad, he isn't good but hes a smart player. One thing that is remarkable about him, he doesn't strikeout. He can take a walk, but hes the guy that puts the ball on the ground to the second basemen with a runner on third and less then two outs. And I swear he can pop a bloop hit at command. I hate him, but it have a lot of respect for him. He's a poor mans Freddy Sanchez :)


I give it to the Cardinals in 7 games, even though my brain says I'm wrong.

I honestly don't know who will win it. My gut is at a standstill. Hamilton isn't 100% and their starting pitchers can't seem to have a good game. Young needs to step up and get some big hits. Texas has a better balanced offense but the middle of the order of St. Louis is the best in baseball. Not. Even. Close. I don't care if Pujols has a down year he is head and shoulders the best hitter in baseball and Holliday is best left fielder in baseball. And Berkman is... well a future HOFer that can still kill the ball. Its going to be a good and well fought series.
 
Oh, yeah. As soon as they announced to the whole world, "St. Louis has never been involved in a 1-0 game", I knew that jinx was on. 🤬

Edit: 1-0 in the World Series.
 
That game about gave me a heart attack. But, I was almost positive we were going to come back in the 9th. I could just see the disgust and irritation on the Ranger players' faces. They didn't want to be down 0-2. It only takes so long before a hitter finds his rhythm. Both bullpins are playing nearly lights out too. This is definitely a good series to watch so far. Just as long as my Ranger win. :lol:
 
Wow... the media is on their hands and knees crying like the whiny bitches that they are because Pujols didn't want to talk to them and give them another generic response we've all heard. What do you expect to hear from Pujols other then "we didn't play good enough, but there is still a lot of baseball to play" their is nothing else he can say. And if he says something even remotely true, or what is on his or a teammates mind the media will be all over it and make him look like a jackass. Bonds, Kent, Ramirez and a few other future HoFers all say hi.

Sports media is pathetic. They either lack class, or balls, and rarely 90% of the time lack any sort of logic. Jeff Passan, I'm looking at you. Acting as if his teammates care if he speaks to monkeys with microphones and notepads? No, in fact they understand why he didn't. And when you come a great community person, a top 5 first basemen of all time among other things, you can do things like that. Now go back to talking about David Ortiz or something.
 
I don't know what happened, but answering complete B.S. questions to the media IMO is part of athlete's job description. They get paid the big bucks, and some crap comes with the territory. I do completely agree on sports media, and the generic questions.
 
I don't know what happened, but answering complete B.S. questions to the media IMO is part of athlete's job description. They get paid the big bucks, and some crap comes with the territory. I do completely agree on sports media, and the generic questions.

No it isn't. Its part of what the media has labeled them as. Baseball players job is to go and play baseball not be a puppet. The players owe NOTHING to the media.
 
No it isn't. Its part of what the media has labeled them as. Baseball players job is to go and play baseball not be a puppet. The players owe NOTHING to the media.
Depending on the particular league's rules regarding media, technically, you are right. Where I'm coming from, whether people like it or not, sports like MLB will not exist without media. With it comes the riches, but also the B.S.

You still might not agree, but it is either in the contract, or almost all athletes understands this and/or respect this. That is exactly why something like this Pujol thing is even a story. It is a violation of certain(official or unofficial) code.
 
Depending on the particular league's rules regarding media, technically, you are right. Where I'm coming from, whether people like it or not, sports like MLB will not exist without media. With it comes the riches, but also the B.S.

You still might not agree, but it is either in the contract, or almost all athletes understands this and/or respect this. That is exactly why something like this Pujol thing is even a story. It is a violation of certain(official or unofficial) code.

There is no rule that a player has to do an interview every single time the media wants them too.. Pujols has done more then enough for the media.. if anything they owe him millions for the amount of money the media makes off his name. He didn't want to speak, give the man room not spread of a bunch of lies. There has to be a line where both parties have to meet mutually not one side is boss of everything. Sports media is bankrupt without the players, and vice versa. That doesn't make media the boss of things.
 
There is no rule that a player has to do an interview every single time the media wants them too.. Pujols has done more then enough for the media.. if anything they owe him millions for the amount of money the media makes off his name. He didn't want to speak, give the man room not spread of a bunch of lies. There has to be a line where both parties have to meet mutually not one side is boss of everything. Sports media is bankrupt without the players, and vice versa. That doesn't make media the boss of things.

Again, I don't disagree with you on what a B.S. it is. There might not be a rule, but we are not talking about a relief pitcher in some exhibition game here, so I do think media has every right to cry about it, if they want to. Same would apply to any franchise player who'd skip the post game in a Championship series game.

I don't think media is being a boss. Often, their job is to point & cry. As a fan, I really don't care about what Pujols did, but I'd have definitely handled it differently if I were in his shoes. He's sleeping in the bed he made. I don't see any more or any less here. Who knows, he might actually believe that he needs the additional heat on himself to earn some edge!
 
Again, I don't disagree with you on what a B.S. it is. There might not be a rule, but we are not talking about a relief pitcher in some exhibition game here, so I do think media has every right to cry about it, if they want to. Same would apply to any franchise player who'd skip the post game in a Championship series game.

I don't think media is being a boss. Often, their job is to point & cry. As a fan, I really don't care about what Pujols did, but I'd have definitely handled it differently if I were in his shoes. He's sleeping in the bed he made. I don't see any more or any less here. Who knows, he might actually believe that he needs the additional heat on himself to earn some edge!

Well according to him he was in the locker room for 40 minutes where the media could reach him, and they didn't come until he was leaving to go home. They are more or less crying because he didn't go to them.

I understand what you are saying and I agree with you. My point is, the media needs to stop creating lies. How does this change his "leadership skills" which is a QUOTE from Jeff Passan of Yahoo. Maybe she should start constructing better questions too... all the reporters are brain dead and know nothing about the sport. Its here in the local media too, of course its a little different here as the Giants own the media. :lol: So in this case they can't do much, which is good and bad. I typically don't read these things as sports articles never teach anything, I understand pretty much everything that happens during the game I may listen to a recap by Eric Byrnes as he understands the game.

I wish I had MLB TV...
 
There are good writers, but even they'd occasionally have misses. If they get you to think, I think they've done their job. Problem is, often their bottom line is just getting your attention, which is garbage.

Edit: So I just woke up from a nap(yeah, really unconventional hour-wise), and I see "14" in red, so I assume that's Texas. Then I see someone throw a ball into the left field. Did you see that 🤬 laughing during stoppage? What a dumb 🤬 :lol:
 
Last edited:
I flat out told my dad after seeing a little ESPN piece on Reggie Jackson that Pujols would not hit 3 HRs. Annnd, what do you know? Normally my sports predictions are pretty good, and I think the odds might have been with me on that one. Anyway, I was pulling for the Rangers but I have to tip my hat to the offensive clinic Pujols and the Cards put on tonight. And the only other two to have achieved what Pujols did? Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson. Not a bad list to join :lol:.
 
I feel privileged to be a Cardinals fan tonight. Next to the teams from the 80's with Ozzie, Willie, Pags, Pendelton, Jack Clark, etc., this is one of my favorite teams from the years. Keep on believing, and what an amazing player and human being Albert Pujols is. We're all so incredibly fortunate to see him play the game.
 
I was so frustrated after the Game 2, but just like that, they took the home field advantage back!
 
Wow. Can't believe I missed last nights game. I'm a Tigers fan but respect the greats in the game all the same and what Pujols did, the best World Series performance in history, better than DiMaggio, Ruth, Jackson is simply amazing. Going from the goat in game 2 to the hero in game 3 - classic. ESPN will be showing this on their classics channel for all time. He might want to wait til after the series to give his stuff to Cooperstown so he can keep his mojo, especially with that bat.
 
Cardinals hitting certainly could have done better IMO, but still, what a game! We just might see a Game 7.
 
Cardinals hitting certainly could have done better IMO, but still, what a game! We just might see a Game 7.

As long as the Rangers win the Series, I don't care how many games it takes. :D 👍
 
JCE
As long as the Rangers win the Series, I don't care how many games it takes. :D 👍
It would be nice for Dallas to take home a NBA & a MLB trophy in the same year. Cowgirls aren't gonna do it & it's too early to see how the Stars will do.

But, the game tonight was definitely fun to watch. Not sure what happened there last night; Cardinals were on a roll. :dunce:
 
Back