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- owen_legend
Just managed a 1:31 on my second try; not bad not bad, shifting early and driving smooth was key.
Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson Hot Lap @ Willow Springs
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- United States
- DGXR
- DGXR1
Just another reason why I *love* Gran Turismo. They are passionate about racing history! To be honest, I probably won't be driving this Hudson much because there are far better performers in this game. But it's great to see its special inclusion in the game and getting so much attention as a piece of racing history.
Yes that's what I would suggest, unless you have a desperate craving for racing action, in which case you can just go arcade racing and save the career mode races until you get to 200%. Since the login bonus was made available, I haven't done any racing in GT6. I've only booted up the game to build the bonus. I'll race again when 200% is achieved.
Yes that's what I would suggest, unless you have a desperate craving for racing action, in which case you can just go arcade racing and save the career mode races until you get to 200%. Since the login bonus was made available, I haven't done any racing in GT6. I've only booted up the game to build the bonus. I'll race again when 200% is achieved.
XPOWER180
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Why do people feel a need to boast about what driving aids they don't use??? Really, who gives a flying f### !?? Do you want to know what controls I have on or not in my real car? No. So why here? Drive it how you want, be happy with it and drop this sense of 'elitism' that people who don't use driving aids seem to carry about them!
XPOWER180
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Disagree. Many cars have similar things to SRF, some permanently on some switchable, often in FF cars. It helps to reduce understeer more than anything (why its called skid reduction force I will never know!) Personally I will use whatever aids I see fit and nobodys opinions will ever change that, weather I am using none, some or all!
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- Spurgy777
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I tried this and Gold wasn't an issue, but I noticed the top time was a 1:26.. So I checked and to my big disapointment I noticed that SRF was available, turned it on and put in a 1:28.8.. SRF ruins everything, it turns a sim into an arcade game and it makes you so much faster that it is not actually possible to compete without it, it simply adds buckets of grip while allowing you to drive like a complete idiot.
I could have gone faster for sure but I'm not sure how the hell a 1:26 is possible, probably some sort of track abuse/cutting and clever exploiting of the SRF mechanics. This is the only seasonal I've done, I'l probably do the others too but the leaderboards are worthless to me while this SRF is there.
If I wanted competitive arcade action I can go online with Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed.
I could have gone faster for sure but I'm not sure how the hell a 1:26 is possible, probably some sort of track abuse/cutting and clever exploiting of the SRF mechanics. This is the only seasonal I've done, I'l probably do the others too but the leaderboards are worthless to me while this SRF is there.
If I wanted competitive arcade action I can go online with Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed.
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You don't understand how SRF works. SRF increases the grip from the tyres when you start to slide, so not only does it massively reduce understeer but it also massively increases cornering speeds and allows you to throw the car into a corner in a way that would not normally be possible.
Imagine the scenario that you have the grip of sports soft tyres, you throw the car in and at the point of highest cornering force your grip gradually increases to the grip of racing softs. That is essencially how SRF works. But even that is not really a strong enough comparison as SRF goes a lot further than that.
There is no comparison to reality here, all the real world driving technique you have gets thrown out of the window in favour of "throw it in and abuse the SRF for more grip".
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- Spurgy777
The principals behind going fast are the same whether SRF is on or off, the only difference is in grip levels, which are far from unrealistic. You can't "cleverly exploit" SRF either, so if you're going slower than someone, it's because you're driving slower. Also, if you think you can "drive like an idiot" just because it's on, I'm not surprised you don't see how a 1:26 is possible.
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Completely false to the word. With SRF on you can replace braking with more steering angle and the game simply dials in more grip, you can replace weight transfer to reduce understeer with simply throwing it into the corner and adding more steering angle for more grip, you can drive with 2 wheels on the dirt and not lose traction or spin because the SRF simply adds more grip.
It turns a driving simulator into an arcade racer. It makes good driving technique unnecessary. But feel free to show me a 1:26 time without track abuse, cutting and proper driving technique.
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- Spurgy777
Well I haven't changed my driving style in the slightest and I very rarely use SRF. The key to the fastest lap is smooth steering, good timing, and good throttle/brake control, chucking the car around won't get you anywhere.
As for "track abuse and cutting", (which technically is wrong because two wheels are always on track, but I know what you mean), that's just as easy whether SRF is on or off, there are lots of corners at lots of tracks which will help rotate the car if you clip the kerbs right. This track just has a lot of them, you don't see the same happening on most of the other TTs even though they have SRF as well.
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- GTP_BanditKarter, BanditKarter22
I agree with you here Spurgy. Although one thing you said is incorrect, the grip levels are unrealistic, I think it's the game in general rather than just the SRF, but on the Stowe circuit at Silverstone, we were doing 1:01s in a 370Z, and apparently a 55 second lap is possible in a Alpha Romeo MiTo...
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No **** driving fast makes you fast, but chucking the car around will get you places if you have something that turns the grip up when you do it. The proof is in the pudding I've seen some of the laps. 2 tyres on track? How many times have you put 2 tyres off the track on 70% of the corners in order to make laptime? You can't see why I have issue with this?
SRF takes the piss with the offtrack since it increases the grip of the tyres that are losing grip, meaning if you're on the dirt it will just increase your grip. Like I said, it turns it into an arcade racing game, the SRF can be exploited for maximum grip driving in a way that has no relation to reality.
Sure it's still racing, but realistic it is not, simulation racing it is not and it is stuff like this that causes people to label Gran Turismo as an arcade game.
XPOWER180
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Please do not make a statement of what I do and don't understand. I understand perfectly well how a made up device on a computer game works thank you, my difference is I don't get all upset about it and grizzle about other people using it as so many other people here seem to do so. I just can't figure out for the life of me why people get so worked up about it when they can turn it off, and so what if people beat you on a fantasy leaderboard of a GAME?!! Are you going to lose out in life because of it? No!!! Some people really need to prioritise their lives.
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- Hampshire
- Spurgy777
Actually, those times are about right considering the 370Z can go at least 2 seconds faster, it only goes an extra 5 mph or so faster than what the MiTo is doing on the straight, and it weighs an extra 500kg.
Look, if you honestly think that chucking the car around is just as effective as good driving technique just because SRF is on, feel free to go and get in the top 10 on the leaderboard, I doubt you will even get close without smooth driving.
And you clearly didn't read what I said about running 2 wheels off track, the majority of corners on this track help the car rotate if you put two wheels off track on the inside, whether SRF is on or off.
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- tronrider345
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- GTP_BanditKarter, BanditKarter22
The tracks still have too much grip. When we did the benchmark test, the times were about 10 seconds slower on the real track than in the game, and we had a more tuned 370Z in the game.
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- Ontario
- MajorBlixem
Got a 1:31.7...
Shifting earlier was definitely key for me. Knocked 2 seconds off my round doing it.
Shifting earlier was definitely key for me. Knocked 2 seconds off my round doing it.
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When you're comparing it to a real life driving aid on a car you clearly don't understand what it does. Don't get all upset because someone corrected you on something you were wrong about. The reason people don't like it on is because it completely ruins the driving models/realism on the cars and adds so much peformance/grip that you cannot compete without it.
If you think people should prioritise their lives then why are you in this thread? Why are you wasting time arguing about something that you don't care about? I enjoy playing competitively, I play competitively in all the racing games I play and I want to enjoy that with Gran Turismo... SRF ruins that by breaking the physics model of the game, it turns a simulator into some sort of arcade game.
It's a waste of my time, am I going to lose out on it in life? I am going to lose out on gaming enjoyment, the whole point of buying a game in the first place.
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