Massive Changes Coming to Gran Turismo 7 in Response to Fan Feedback
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Veinz
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It’s kind of annoying that I should wait to finish the circuit experiences. A week or so ago I was waiting to complete the licenses and missions due to having the wrong tires for dirt tracks…
My circuit experience progress is 29%. I hope I can at least replay the ones I have already golded to get the higher reward. Some of these are not easy and it would sting to miss out on a big payout.
My circuit experience progress is 29%. I hope I can at least replay the ones I have already golded to get the higher reward. Some of these are not easy and it would sting to miss out on a big payout.
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PD & Sony I feel had to do this. Sony has issued over 200k refunds at an avg 75.00 and their critic score is in the toilet. Its a great positive step, only time heals wounds and PD isn't out of the woods yet
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Was it really 200,000? I would like to know the figures myself as 200k seems a bit steep. At 75 x 200k they lost 15 million in revenue? Sounds a bit wrong to me.
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That much content coming in a short amount of time is pretty impressive and that statement made a refreshing change in communication.
Now all I need is for the road cars to stop killing me every chance they get.
Now all I need is for the road cars to stop killing me every chance they get.
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Nobody huh? Proof huh? Just like "eVeRyOnE jUsT wAnTs AlL tHe CaRs NoW" right?
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While I get your sentiment (and I'm certainly happy change is coming), I also understand why folks are not patting the arsonist on the back for putting out the fire so to speak. Rebuilding trust simply takes time.
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Source for refund numbers?
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Proof/source of this data?
I'm just going to say preemptively:
No, "it's confidential"/"it's privileged info" isn't a good reason for not having a credible source, because firstly anyone can go online, spout a bunch of nonsense and then say they don't have a source because "oh it's confidential". Secondly, if it's actually "privileged"/"confidential" then you shouldn't really be posting it on a forum now should you?
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"Step in the right direction." So, a right hand turn onto the right road is "sort of getting there or something." VERY few of us expected new cars and tracks so soon, so I'm quite the happy camper, though I was anyhow.
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I don't think the expense of the cars has been the main problem. People would still complain, but it wouldn't drive a metacritic bomb. It was the combination of these things that triggered everyone:
1. Lack of events, particularly prestigious ones like endurance events, with satisfying payouts
2. 20m CR cap on earned credits despite that invitation-only cars can cost near that much
3. Feeling of bad will driven by the event reward credit nerf
4. Lack of ability to sell cars
5. All of the above seemingly pushing players into MTX
I'm not sure they full appreciated how this all would come across for their playerbase, particularly after the patch...but it's clear they see it now. In my opinion there is still time to right the ship, and the update previewed would do a lot considering it specifically addresses the first four points and therefore naturally alleviates the 5th as well.
1. Lack of events, particularly prestigious ones like endurance events, with satisfying payouts
2. 20m CR cap on earned credits despite that invitation-only cars can cost near that much
3. Feeling of bad will driven by the event reward credit nerf
4. Lack of ability to sell cars
5. All of the above seemingly pushing players into MTX
I'm not sure they full appreciated how this all would come across for their playerbase, particularly after the patch...but it's clear they see it now. In my opinion there is still time to right the ship, and the update previewed would do a lot considering it specifically addresses the first four points and therefore naturally alleviates the 5th as well.
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Agreed. Having a little skepticism even about this good news is quite healthy. I think everyone needs to keep pressing. I say Keep those negative reviews coming in full swing till the fans get the changes they deserve. Sony did us dirty with this game and its going to take a lot more than a single page of changes to undo all that! but perhaps metacritic is no longer the way to send that message...We've exhausted that specific outlet, successfully. Getting Youtube creators to report more on it seems like the way forward to sending the message of skepticism across to other gamers all over.
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I mean, GT7's mishaps have been front-page news on Kotaku and other major gaming news platforms, hell even Forbes did an article about it.
‘Gran Turismo 7’ Shows Why Sony Needs Bungie’s Help With Live Services
Gran Turismo 7 is experiencing a number of issues, both technical, which recently resulted in 30 hour downtime after a patch went wrong, but also with its game economy, as the purpose of that patch in the first place was to increase grind time in many aspects of the game, which has upset players.
www.forbes.com
Forbes. That has massive visibility.
I agree though, keeping the pressure on until a fully-fleshed out career mode and fair payouts are present isn't a bad idea.
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I think the whole metacritic bombing affects very few people. I'm pretty certain if I asked 50 of my friends what metacritic was, 49 would have no clue. And then you have people like me who know exactly what metacritic is and ignore it, or almost ignore it, and go by what their favorite reviewer says. Because I've learned that review bombing is a thing and some games get marked unfairly because people have minor meltdowns.
Most people I know read the description, look at maybe one review (usually IGN) and decide on a game. I mean, there is no way this game deserves a 1 or 2. I can see being upset at decisions and giving it a 5 or 6. And that's why I ignore the public scores - they're usually written in the heat of the moment and get unjust reviews.
Now the forums like this, or social media - my guess is that is what spurred this announcement. But I also think these extra races were already coming at us, no matter what
Most people I know read the description, look at maybe one review (usually IGN) and decide on a game. I mean, there is no way this game deserves a 1 or 2. I can see being upset at decisions and giving it a 5 or 6. And that's why I ignore the public scores - they're usually written in the heat of the moment and get unjust reviews.
Now the forums like this, or social media - my guess is that is what spurred this announcement. But I also think these extra races were already coming at us, no matter what
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This is false, they said that they'd increase it by 100%.
Why would they when the game's only been launched three weeks ago, chill out. In comparison Gran Turismo Sport had its first content update a month and two weeks after its launch, and that didn't bring many things. And this isn't a promise, it's pretty much confirmed that april will bring more cars and additional layouts in the game. Did you even read and understood the blog?
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Yes, an article by a hardcore Destiny 2 fan is surely going to make waves. And then he uses the most money sucking fomo filled game as an example. Take it from me and the 100 of thousands of Destiny players, we don't need Bungie's help, they make Kaz look like santa..I mean, GT7's mishaps have been front-page news on Kotaku and other major gaming news platforms, hell even Forbes did an article about it.
‘Gran Turismo 7’ Shows Why Sony Needs Bungie’s Help With Live Services
Gran Turismo 7 is experiencing a number of issues, both technical, which recently resulted in 30 hour downtime after a patch went wrong, but also with its game economy, as the purpose of that patch in the first place was to increase grind time in many aspects of the game, which has upset players.
Forbes. That has massive visibility.
I agree though, keeping the pressure on until a fully-fleshed out career mode and fair payouts are present isn't a bad idea.
He is right about one thing, Bungie knows how to nickel and dime its players so Sony got that right.
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Still an online only game. Still a non starter for me. I was thinking about getting back into GT after skipping Sport. This will always be a deal breaker for me. Glad the economy will be better for the existing players though and hope they continue to make the experience better for them. Back to Driveclub I go.
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That's like your opinion if you think metacritic review bombing did nothing. Like really. C'mon dude, United Fan outrage is the sole reason that PD has changed their strategy and are saying they are going to give you such new content that we would all like. Without all these hardcore GT fans screaming, yelling, complaining, bashing and whining at PD we would not have gotten diddly squat in the next update. Look at the facts of what just happened with this news, enough with the backpedalling about "oh yeah nah PD was gonna give this , the fan outrage didnt get Kaz to make a statement, no Kazjust did it randomly". There is no reason to go backwards and change their strategy on the implementation of microtransactions to appease fans. The fans here did all the work of just talking about the game's faults honestly and with passion.
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