Massive Changes Coming to Gran Turismo 7 in Response to Fan Feedback

[Manasseh257NSX]

Selling cars with increased payouts. I'm liking what I'm hearing. If PD follows through with all these proposals, they'll be in the category of games like Cyberpunk and Driveclub who tanked their launch but quickly alleviated it and practically saved themselves.

 

[Fusion]

No mention of custom races which is a big one for me. I hope they fix the payouts for them too. That and allow for saving settings sheets and making the default opponent vehicles match your car/pp better. That and adding more filters for drive type, era, country of origin etc.

Oh well, everything else sounds positive. I hope it doesn't take too long to get the important aspects mentioned.

 

[karaokequeen3]

I hope that people who have review-bombed GT7 consider adjusting their reviews (though somehow I doubt it) in light of the forthcoming improvements to the game.

They may be able to adjust them, but the initial reviews from publications? That's another matter. I'm in the camp that thinks the game would have received lower scores had the MTX/grinding element been much more prominent in their review copies.

This roll-back also has a hint of 'caught Scooby Doo villain' to it. If consumers hadn't raised hackles over this, PD would have absolutely pressed on with their strategy.

Keep up the pressure folks.

 

[tehPete]

I don't care for empty promises; lets see what actually gets changed down the line, and if it actually improves the game.

Note though, bumping the prize money up after docking it is a shallow gesture at best given that the grind was already the worst of all the GT games. It honestly feels like anchoring, and that tactic can get tae ****.

At least there's open confirmation that they're moving to a live service model, which means the always-online requirement is never going away.

 

[kjeldsen]

One part I don’t understand is the raising of the 20mil credit cap - like that wasn’t already astronomically difficult/long to reach in the first place? Even if payouts are doubled or even tripled, they’ve multiples the cap by x5. All this seems to indicate in this specific regard is that some cars may go over 20mil for the first time in series history.

Any improvement to the economy and event count is welcome, but I remain cautiously optimistic on the promises until I see results.

I don't think so, the issue is that if you save up for a 20 mill car then you can't do anything else with the money until it shows up..

They may be able to adjust them, but the initial reviews from publications? That's another matter. I'm in the camp that thinks the game would have received lower scores had the MTX/grinding element been much more prominent in their review copies.

This roll-back also has a hint of 'caught Scooby Doo villain' to it. If consumers hadn't raised hackles over this, PD would have absolutely pressed on with their strategy.

Keep up the pressure folks.

It's the same game they reviewed, the MTX hate had nothing to do with the actual game and gameplay.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Communication. Listening to fans. What is this witchcraft?

Who cares, it's a win for everyone.

 

[ND4SPD]

Increase credit cap to 100m for non mtx credits. It's happening. Kaz is staying true to his word about real life car pricing. Incoming 70+million dollar Ferrari 250 🤣

But, good on the update. At least it shows that they somewhat do listen to their fans after the backlash. I think the last time they pissed off their whole fanbase and forced them to backtrack was when GTHD was originally announced and you were supposed to personally purchase every car through dlc. Let's hope they've also listened to our complaints of eventually allowing us to play single player without having to be always online. That's what I'm more interested in.

 

[Johnnn]

Increase credit cap to 100m for non mtx credits. It's happening. Kaz is staying true to his word about real life car pricing. I coming 70+million dollar Ferrari 250 🤣

But, good on the update. At least it shows that they somewhat do listen to their fans after the backlash. I think the last time they pissed off their whole fanbase and forced them to backtrack was when GTHD was originally announced and you were supposed to personally purchase every car through dlc. Let's hope they've also listened to our complaints of eventually allowing us to play single player without having to be always online. That's what I'm more interested in.

Dead live service is not that good. It was necessary and it's nothing special. It was the only way how to safe the service.

 

[Benny44]

Allowing players to play more varied events to earn credits is good, but if they end up just offering the same kind of payout reward how does that actually tackle the grind required to purchase these cars we all want to drive?

Sure, we won't have to replay that same event over and over and over again - instead, we'll just be grinding a different event over and over and over again.

The higher end races will double on average, so it's not the same payout reward. If we have varied events and get the cars in roughly half the time, isn't that what we wanted? If I know I could get a 20 million dollar car in somewhere around 8 hours, I'd say that's quite fair, and achieves a decent balance between difficult to get but still obtainable

 

[Ande3200]

Positive changes, but not amazing. A 100% increase in later races brings us right back to where we were in 1.06. At least there will be more variety.

Some races will pay more than it did in 1,06 if the increase the Rewards by 100 %,

 

[Johnnn]

What really changed in the update? Just the limit? Because limit wasn't a problem to me at all if I don't have any credits.

 

[kowalski__1]

One part I don’t understand is the raising of the 20mil credit cap - like that wasn’t already astronomically difficult/long to reach in the first place? Even if payouts are doubled or even tripled, they’ve multiples the cap by x5. All this seems to indicate in this specific regard is that some cars may go over 20mil for the first time in series history.

Any improvement to the economy and event count is welcome, but I remain cautiously optimistic on the promises until I see results.

Well, i have that problem ,i'm less than 5k from cap limit.
So, now i'm being forced to spend credits ,i don't like that.
And i have to spend over a million ,just in case i get another 1 million ticket.
Cap should be aleast 50 million!!

Edit: Just noticed cap is going to $100 million,joy!!

 

[grainqey_5yj]

Thankfully he has made a statement, all be it a bit later than what the fans were wanting.

I'm very pleased by the news, hopefully this is just the beginning of a much wider upward trend of updates, improvements and a better relationship between PD and fans.

I'm not yet satisfied as we'll have to see how it goes, I will be once it becomes the game it was supposed to be

 

[Vspectra]

Thanks.

Now please remove the always-online requirement for the majority of the single player which is obviously a DRM and not a way to prevent save hacks. There are ways to prevent save hacks without heavily limiting users, who paid $70-90 for the game, from playing the main single player when the servers or their internet goes down.

 

[VinylRichie]

This was the kind of message that should have been released a few days ago. A clear "yeah, we hear you, this is what we're doing to fix it" would have gone a very long way towards keeping goodwill in the community. But better late than never, and I'm looking forward to seeing what some of these new events entail (finally, 24h races!).

Yeah sure, but a lot of people here also had no patience. It was clear to me that there will be a more detailed message from Kaz or PD, even when they ****ed up things it must be clear that someone in this situation needs some time to re-arrange their thoughts and how to react to it, especially if you want them to learn something out of it. Otherwise it’s just a not very honest, quick statement just to calm down people

 

[EES]

Changes are good though their reputation is destroyed that they tried to pull this mtx crap on us. It'll take gt8 to see if they've really learned and regain some of my respect.

Hopefully this also wakes up Sony to not try this in other full priced games.

 

[Snake55wildcat]

Positive changes, but not amazing. A 100% increase in later races brings us right back to where we were in 1.06. At least there will be more variety.

But at least this time it hopefully wont just apply to the rally events haha.

Personally, i am relieved at these changes as a whole, its a good step in the right direction... now to fix the Sport mode races feeling like GTSport all over again lol

 

[Johnnn]

Changes are good though their reputation is destroyed that they tried to pull this mtx crap on us. It'll take gt8 to see if they've really learned and regain some of my respect.

Hopefully this also wakes up Sony to not try this in other full priced games.

Problem is Sony probably see the future in this model. It's very profitable if done right. Kaz is paid by Sony and probably doesn't have many choices. I wouldn't be so positive.

 

[Leggacy]

I find it positive. If they up the rewards by 100% all the problems related to monetisation will be solved.

Doesn't fix the force feedback and physics issues though.

What force feedback and Physics issues are you referring too?

 

[grainqey_5yj]

Dead live service is not that good. It was necessary and it's nothing special. It was the only way how to safe the service.

For me that raises the question of whether there will be another gt game or will they just have one game and just update it throughout it's life?

I personally don't mind but I have decent Internet and it's mostly reliable so not a problem although we can't use the game while the servers are down.

 

[Johnnn]

For me that raises the question of whether there will be another gt game or will they just have one game and just update it throughout it's life?

I personally don't mind but I have decent Internet and it's mostly reliable so not a problem although we can't use the game while the servers are down.

Exactly, I am not sure either. GT is very popular franchise and create some milking cow from it like GTA is not good idea. But they at least try. On the other hand you need some money because racing games are very expensive. One long game makes sense but you need to create many paid DLCs. That's what I like but they probably prefer "free" everything because casual people like it more. But the "free" is much more expensive than paid stuff. Horizon has this "free" approach currently.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

For me that raises the question of whether there will be another gt game or will they just have one game and just update it throughout it's life?

I personally don't mind but I have decent Internet and it's mostly reliable so not a problem although we can't use the game while the servers are down.

Microsoft wanted to do that with Windows 10, and look where we are now.

In reality, things get too old. GT7 will age, and not be up to the future standards. People will get bored of the same singleplayer game. Licenses will expire. The MTX alone cannot sustain updating the game forever. Even live service games get replaced.

There will be a GT8 as long as Polyphony wants to continue making games.

 

[richroo]

Glad to see feedback is getting through Hope you all keep up the pressure so the game gets as good as it should be , by the time all the bugs n politics are sorted i might be able to buy it !

 

[Racer93]

This is a good start, a step in the right direction. Looking forward to see the next improvements PD'll make to improve the in-game economy of GT 7. And by the way, that's the answer they should have given a couple days ago after the fan outrage. But better late than never.

 

[GTP_reddevil]

If this indeed is the reaction they needed, then fair play to PD - fingers crossed! Let’s continue having our opinions heard so PD can begin to maintain communication like the news today!

 

[AutumnalGlow]

And just like that...

It's gone up by .1 since the announcement.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

So applying pressure over a developer and publisher works? Who knew!

 

[OldSilentHill]

Doesn't fix the force feedback and physics issues though.

My Force Feedback is great and the physics are way better than in GT Sport, but hey, go figure.

 

[fearinwaves]

I’m genuinely excited! Great news!

I think people who’ve been defending PDs terrible decisions since the game release should realise that all of this ‘whining’ and ‘moaning’ was because people like me really love to play a good Gran Turismo game.

It’s nice to see specifics named, hopefully they continue to take note of the what the consumer base wants….

 

[5thwheel]

Not entirely unsurprising that they are in damage control mode. I'll let them update, refine and expand the game for a while still before picking it up. I did definitely not expect a regression from GTS in some regards.

Fairly new to the GT franchise myself but I thought this kinda game is all Polyphony have ever done since their founding. And their founder happens to be a VP at Sony too, so probably wielding quite some influence in the game division in general - or at the very least able to defend his corner from the suits.

Somehow I expected the release of GT7 to not resemble a newbie driver flying off the track at T1 and frantically trying to get back out from the gravel trap.