Master List Of 2.06 Sound Changes

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

And the understatement of the year award goes to...

Seriously, it's amazing.

It's called an opinion, let's say it together. Or better yet what you've placed here is the overstatement of the year.

Seems fair.

Anyways, what I'm more curious of is why change it now? I mean I know they we're getting plenty of crap for it but still. Also why not do in car ride alongs and record sounds inside as well as outside.

 

[Moontallico]

The Honda S800 RSC Race Car '68 seems to sound diferent to me now.
Can someone else check it too? Just to be sure.

 

[axl54]

Tried the Lexus IS-F racing concept, if you compare it with the pre 2.06 sample:




It really sounds like another kitchen appliance now 👎 (coffeegrinder in action still being my favourite).

Ps gave the FTO super touring car a go, and that one get's my rate of approval definitely like the new sound +1

And edit; Saleen also added to the coffeegrinder club, horrible and annoying sound now.

Omg, turn up the choons when riding in that hoover powered bad-boy

I wonder if Pd needed to downgrade or copy across some samples, to free up some memory for the new ones?
Though I'm sure they don't store all the car sounds in ram simultaneously. Hard to know why they'd improve some car sounds then downgrade others

 

[KWZX10]

...That video makes me cry... It's horrible now.

edit - i really hope it's some kind of mistake, it doesn't make any sense.

 

[MattZR1]

I'm talking in real life. GT5's sounds aren't even remotely close. Most of their idles are almost identical to the startup sound of the old Charger/Challenger.

Oh alright, I got cha bro. Yea, the V8 sounds in GT5 are pretty terrible save for a few.

BTW, have you heard the Pontiac GTO 04 5.7 with titanium racing and supercharger? I swear it sounds like it has supercharger whine that is actually pretty darn good. Just have to go to bumper cam (car view) and sit at idle while revving a bit while looking in reverse (where you see the front of the car). I think it sounds the best when it comes to superchargers in GT5, not that that is saying much lol.

 

[vwpilot]

Its weird that this update changed so many car sounds, some for the better and some for the worse. It doesnt make much sense either the randomness of it. Like why the Saleen S7? It went from one of the meanest sounding V8s in the game to a rather anemic and higher pitched one. Why that random car.

Just weird the decisions made at times.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

Its weird that this update changed so many car sounds, some for the better and some for the worse. It doesnt make much sense either the randomness of it. Like why the Saleen S7? It went from one of the meanest sounding V8s in the game to a rather anemic and higher pitched one. Why that random car.

Just weird the decisions made at times.

Agreed. Welcome to the world of PD.

 

[MattZR1]

Agreed. Welcome to the world of PD.

Yea, I don't know why I keep coming back to the GT franchise with some of the WTF? decisions PD makes from time to time. LOL, but man, I love this game regardless.

 

[koplet]

Saleen S7? Going to drive it right now!

 

[JDMKING13]

You guys are cracking me up!

 

[HuskyGT]

I just finished playing and while doing the "Stars and Stripes" Seasonal I noticed with horror how PD killed the S7's sound. I know that some of you already knew about this and that it's also mentioned in the OP, but I though it changed to a different V8 sound, not a strange unidentified engine sound.

I really don't know why PD does this at all. Does Mr. Yamauchi even know what his sound crew is doing? He's a car guy. He knows cars and I can't believe he's been letting this happen since the begining of the GT series.

I'm starting to think that it's either a technical issue that disables them from putting the correct sample in every car, or they simply don't know the most basic thing about recognizing each type of engine sounds.

I know I mentioned this before but it also makes me feel really sad that they messed up the IS-F Concept which was one of my favorite racing machines. I tried to use it but the sound was absolutely unbareable. I had to exit the race after a lap and get rid of the car.

I'm not whining. I love the game and as a fan I'm concerned that they are unable to do something that even the crapiest car games can achieve. What bothers me the most is that the solution could be as simple as gathering a group of fans that know about how engine sounds should be (and I mean people who know. Not the people that thought that changing to Large Theatre and cranking up the volume would fix the RM Vette's sound before Spec II) and then let us give them the feedback. They don't even need to create new samples at this point. They could easily replace some of the existing samples and interchange them between cars until everything is correct.

I hope you are reading this, PD! I would do it for free! I would even pay so you could let me give you some feedback. I assure you that there are loyal fans here that know about this and together we could help you fix one of the most important and critisized aspects of the game.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

I hate to say it, but I feel like we are witnessing the slow but steady demise of PD and GT.

I feel that most of us still have a soft spot for GT: We've been in contact with the series for years, first discovering it when we were kids or teens (or adults). Naturally, the PSone and GT had its own little place in our gaming hearts and memories.

But now it seems...so faded and tainted. The name still sells well, but the experience isn't what it used to be. At some point, your name (Gran Turismo) doesn't hold up anymore. I am sure we all WANT to see GT succeed and be better than most racing franchises, but then again, it isn't 1998 anymore. There are alternatives to GT.

My hope is that they make the S7 premium eventually, among other badass cars.

 

[1241Penguin]

PD is obviously taking a huge advantage of the loyalty to the GT francise. If GT5 was the first game they ever made in the series, I don't think they would include the standard cars, because that will leave everyone with a bad impression of the game.

 

[JDMKING13]

So couple of cars sound bad which I totally agree with, and now PD is on the Demise I'm on the ring as we speak with 5 guys having a blast this is actually my smoke break. Come race guys it will make you feel better.👍 I do agree though PD has to do something with fixing sound and messing up other cars I also Loved that Lexus for the sound. Penguin I don't agree with that at all though.

 

[Tornado]

So couple of cars sound bad which I totally agree with, and now PD is on the Demise

It probably has something to do with how every time they fix something that never should have been broken in the first place, they outright break several other things that they never should have even touched (and of course, they never bother to tell anyone about anything). It stopped being cute around the time they randomly threw in a chase camera that was making people throw up, if it ever was cute in the first place.

 

[Jav]

Both Ford GT race and Test Cars got a mean idle sound sample now! Same sample as before just the idle changed.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

So couple of cars sound bad which I totally agree with, and now PD is on the Demise I'm on the ring as we speak with 5 guys having a blast this is actually my smoke break. Come race guys it will make you feel better.👍 I do agree though PD has to do something with fixing sound and messing up other cars I also Loved that Lexus for the sound. Penguin I don't agree with that at all though.

My original post is referring to the entire experience, not just the low quality sounds. I didn't intend to make it seem that the S7's new sound was the tipping point lol. It wasn't. It's most everything else before it.

I'm not picking on you, but the red highlighted text is what most scares me. It's the never-ending defense of PD. You don't have to prove yourself a true fan by defending PD. Give yourself a break and analyze the big picture. Allow yourself to see flaws and to criticize. It won't make you a "bad" fan. See ALL angles, not just one angle.

As far as the sound updates, they seem random as others have noticed. KY is random, too, so I feel it reflects him and his eccentric mind.

 

[MoLiEG]

PD is obviously taking a huge advantage of the loyalty to the GT francise. If GT5 was the first game they ever made in the series, I don't think they would include the standard cars, because that will leave everyone with a bad impression of the game.

That's the main reason I'm so mad at PD and Kaz at the moment...

They think we will take anything at this point and just sit down and be happy... well, that worked in Nov. 2010, but now... it's more like an insult... 👎

 

[JDMKING13]

My original post is referring to the entire experience, not just the low quality sounds. I didn't intend to make it seem that the S7's new sound was the tipping point lol. It wasn't. It's most everything else before it.

I'm not picking on you, but the red highlighted text is what most scares me. It's the never-ending defense of PD. You don't have to prove yourself a true fan by defending PD. Give yourself a break and analyze the big picture. Allow yourself to see flaws and to criticize. It won't make you a "bad" fan. See ALL angles, not just one angle.

As far as the sound updates, they seem random as others have noticed. KY is random, too, so I feel it reflects him and his eccentric mind.

It probably has something to do with how every time they fix something that never should have been broken in the first place, they outright break several other things that they never should have even touched (and of course, they never bother to tell anyone about anything). It stopped being cute around the time they randomly threw in a chase camera that was making people throw up, if it ever was cute in the first place.

So couple of cars sound bad which I totally agree with, and now PD is on the Demise I'm on the ring as we speak with 5 guys having a blast this is actually my smoke break. Come race guys it will make you feel better.👍 I do agree though PD has to do something with fixing sound and messing up other cars I also Loved that Lexus for the sound. Penguin I don't agree with that at all though.

I guess you guys missed that part huh? I said I agree with you also, but to say the GT series is on the demise is overboard in my respectful opinion.

 

[SavageEvil]

PD needs to sit down and read through the threads on this site that state the wrong or incorrect information within the game, that will stop all of this craziness from getting worse. The S7 is now totally messed up, aside from having it's weight split reversed and wrong, now it's engine note is complete trashed. PD get it together and fellow GT players, post your findings in one place so someone can sort it all out and verify it and have the mods post it for PD to read before making any kinds of weird unannounced alterations to the game that we all love to play.

Racing engine notes should be fairly similar among similar the same type of engine, V8 should sound more or less fairly similar as with V10's, V12's, V6's, I6, straight 4's. GT5 as it is now the titanium exhaust turns whatever sound you already had into some completely off, way too high pitched and squelchy. Fix my S7 PD, fix it properly.

 

[Jav]

I guess you guys missed that part huh? I said I agree with you also, but to say the GT series is on the demise is overboard in my respectful opinion.

I share that opinion with you 100%, PD has no direction and it's been brought down by incompetent staff. I mean it took them 20 months to realize the ZR1 and Camaro had the wrong sound sample and they patch it up with a pretty bad one TBH(wich sounds like the car's got busted headers).
PD needs to regroup and find a direction for GT6 or P-C.A.R.S is coming for their throne.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

I share that opinion with you 100%, PD has no direction and it's been brought down by incompetent staff. I mean it took them 20 months to realize the ZR1 and Camaro had the wrong sound sample and they patch it up with a pretty bad one TBH(wich sounds like the car's got busted headers).
PD needs to regroup and find a direction for GT6 or P-C.A.R.S is coming for their throne.

I think you meant to agree with me and Toronado

JDM has said it's foolish/overboard to think that PD is on the demise.

At any rate, the sounds are just one of many issues we've seen with PD.

JDM agreed on that (sounds need serious work).

 

[HuskyGT]

I guess you guys missed that part huh? I said I agree with you also, but to say the GT series is on the demise is overboard in my respectful opinion.

I do agree with you in that point. GT won't die because of this, but it will certainly put its fans' patience to the test.

Apart form your opinion, I feel like PD seriously needs the criticism. The game is awesome and all, but it's these little negative details that really hurt the experience. To think that such a huge developer that's extrictly involved in the automotive industry(and I mean huge because of what they can accomplish) makes such amature mistakes, and fix after fix they do so little to change it, and on top of all they mess up what is not messed up; that's unacceptable.

I'm not a computer technician, but I know that adding new things and fixing some other things might bring up bugs, which is understandable, but a car with a V8 that has sounded like a V8 since release date, now suddenly was changed to a V12-ish or whatever sound (I'm talking about the S7), that my friends, is NOT a bug. That's someone changing the sound randomly with obviously no knowledge of cars whatsoever. But it's not this what makes me sad, it's the fact that the leaders of PD let this happen.

 

[digitalic]

Sound is the #1 thing that's ruining and keeping the game experience from playing how it should. I agree with a lot of you about the matter. I really wish PD and Kaz would really take the time to focus on SOUND and make it their #1 priority. A nice big update on this solely alone would be a great and totally change the experience of the game for me at least. We should all really team up and try to bring this to Kaz and PD's attention and let them know how serious are about this in order for them to do something. I'm all for it if you guys want to seriously bring this matter to their attention.

 

[JDMKING13]

I agree with you guys trust me and the sound situation is very annoying, but at the same time they are trying and I can never get mad at that. The game has got a lot better and I can understand what they are going through at PD. It has to be tough I a no type of programmer etc so I will never comment on how easy it is to implement something. When the Porsche pack came out and people could not download it people where going mad! This is not my character I'm thinking to myself do they seriously think T10 is doing this on purpose? Stuff happens everyday and to say " oh why cant they do this, this is easy when you have no clue is not fair in my opinion. When you say I wish they put more rims in the game or they fix all the cars sound so at least they can sound very similar to their counterpart is all good. I want so many things in my racing games it crazy. Everybody who plays Forza and GT wishes they could combine the two to get the ultimate console racing game. I want the best from GT but I know it;s going to take time, that's all I can really say.

 

[HuskyGT]

Sound is the #1 thing that's ruining and keeping the game experience from playing how it should. I agree with a lot of you about the matter. I really wish PD and Kaz would really take the time to focus on SOUND and make it their #1 priority. A nice big update on this solely alone would be a great and totally change the experience of the game for me at least. We should all really team up and try to bring this to Kaz and PD's attention and let them know how serious are about this in order for them to do something. I'm all for it if you guys want to seriously bring this matter to their attention.

True! Sound is more important that one might think, especially in a car game. Sound effects are great, even if after this patch they have decreased in detail a little bit. The problem is the sound samples.

PD doesn't even need to go and record more cars and digitalize the sounds and all that crap. It would be more than enough if the rearange the samples that the game already has so every car has a sound that matches its engine type.

It's not that complicated. They've actually done it already. Listen to the V8 Mercs. Remember how they sounded in GT4? Not a single V8 Merc sounded like a V8. Now they all do! There are 5 or 6 V8 Mercedes that have the exact same sample, but it's great because they sound like they should! These Mercs also share their sample with the Street M3 GTR, which sounds amazing!

Can't they do that with other cars that don't sound right? Of course they can! Having a couple of random cars that share their sample is better than having a bunch of V6 cars that sound like they have 4 bangers.

This might sound stupid(and it is), but to this point, PD should release a sound tuning option were we can choose a sample from the hundreds of cars in the game and put it in any car that we want. Come on, PD! If you won't fix the sounds, at least give us the option to do it ourselves.

 

[JDMKING13]

True! Sound is more important that one might think, especially in a car game. Sound effects are great, even if after this patch they have decreased in detail a little bit. The problem is the sound samples.

PD doesn't even need to go and record more cars and digitalize the sounds and all that crap. It would be more than enough if the rearange the samples that the game already has so every car has a sound that matches its engine type.

It's not that complicated. They've actually done it already. Listen to the V8 Mercs. Remember how they sounded in GT4? Not a single V8 Merc sounded like a V8. Now they all do! There are 5 or 6 V8 Mercedes that have the exact same sample, but it's great because they sound like they should! These Mercs also share their sample with the Street M3 GTR, which sounds amazing!

Can't they do that with other cars that don't sound right? Of course they can! Having a couple of random cars that share their sample is better than having a bunch of V6 cars that sound like they have 4 bangers.

This might sound stupid(and it is), but to this point, PD should release a sound tuning option were we can choose a sample from the hundreds of cars in the game and put it in any car that we want. Come on, PD! If you won't fix the sounds, at least give us the option to do it ourselves.

I love that Ideal 👍 even if we have to win the engine sounds in the seasonal's I don't care.

 

[HuskyGT]

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I love that Ideal 👍 even if we have to when the engine sounds in the seasonal's I don;t care

I admit the idea is rediculous and it would probably be a programing nightmare, but to be honest, that would the definite fix!

 

[JDMKING13]

Again I'm with you I have no clue about programming but PD has shown us they can update the game, so your Ideal does not sound so far fetch.

 

[Doog]

This might sound stupid(and it is), but to this point, PD should release a sound tuning option were we can choose a sample from the hundreds of cars in the game and put it in any car that we want. Come on, PD! If you won't fix the sounds, at least give us the option to do it ourselves.