Mission 34 - Mercedes Mclaren SLR at Nurburgring
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- BenSpecialized
I was fortunate to be lucky enough to do this mission first time a while ago but i think it was a fluke as i tryed to do it again but could not beat the 300sl no matter what. Then i found the solution,
Buy a SLR and equip it with sports meduim tyres, Then drive about 10 laps of the nurburgring one after the other on free run maybe more if you like, buy the end of this you should be putting in winning times, then go and do the mission straight away!
Buy a SLR and equip it with sports meduim tyres, Then drive about 10 laps of the nurburgring one after the other on free run maybe more if you like, buy the end of this you should be putting in winning times, then go and do the mission straight away!
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amar212M34 isn't hard not even in NTSC if you know the track.
Myself have the both versions, and you can only say that PAL is a warm-up for a bit more crazy-run for NTSC, but then again you can beat NTSC without too much trouble as long as you have perfect knowledge of Nurb. Take a notice on word "perfect".
That is the one and only key to M34.
If you just think you know the track, then you'll blame the SLR for having no brakes, you'll blame the tyres, you'll blame the suspension or transmission - all wothout any sence - but one will never blame himself. Shame.
You have to know how SLR behaves and how to use that very specific behaviour to propell trough the Nurb. But you have to know Nurb first. No guides can help you, no "take this curve in 120 kmh" advise will teach you, you have to master it.
M34 is a "jewel in a crown" of every true NurbMeister (©a212
I agree that you need to know the track first before even attempting this mission, but I also think you might be underestimating the particular challenge of this car. I have driven the 1,000 mile, the Nurburgring 4h, and most recently the Nurburgring 24h (a-spec), about 250 laps total on the Nordschleife, so I'd say I know the turns. I went back to try Mission 34 again. (I beat it a while ago before doing the 4h or the 24h.) The result was not pretty; I can't even keep the car on the track. Granted, I am still in Altezza Touring Car mode, but the SLR feels like it's driving on ice. The car is just too powerful for its tires. A 300 HP car on racing tires can put down faster times than the 600 HP SLR on Sports Super-Slippy or whatever it's on. (I've done 7'03 in the Altezza without trying.) Much of the mission (for me at least) was figuring out how to cope with this.
However, I can't argue with results. You beat the mission without much trouble, so obviously you knew something that I don't. I will try it again after I get the sound of the Altezza out of my head. Maybe after a few tries, you will be proven right and my increased knowledge of the 'Ring will pay off.
well i bought a new controller and did it first go now i only have one enduro the circut de la sarth 2 to go 24hr race im at 98.1% of game completion.
question for ntsc users what time does the first mec get from this lap on pal it gets around 9.16
im sure that polypony didnt just make this lap harder for ntsc users im guessing that its at the same difficulty of play on pal and ntsc
i had to start 1.55 behind the first car whats the handicap on ntsc
question for ntsc users what time does the first mec get from this lap on pal it gets around 9.16
im sure that polypony didnt just make this lap harder for ntsc users im guessing that its at the same difficulty of play on pal and ntsc
i had to start 1.55 behind the first car whats the handicap on ntsc
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- Concord, CA
- kylehnat
The Gullwing finishes in 9:13, and there is a 2:03 wait at the start.
Edit: That's 9:13 plus or minus one second. It is indeed infuriating when you pull off a perfect lap, finish less than one second back, only to find the Gullwing finished in 9:12.
Edit: That's 9:13 plus or minus one second. It is indeed infuriating when you pull off a perfect lap, finish less than one second back, only to find the Gullwing finished in 9:12.
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9:13 if you're lucky. Most my runs, he's in the 9:12 area. I hate him.kylehnat
- 4,853
- Buffalo, NY
- PURE_DrWatson
"Time behind" @ each sector:
+1'49.762
+1'40.064
+1'32.380
+1'19.255
+1'06.552
+55.399
+39.811
+31.243
+24.807
+12.943
+4.476
-0.357
9'12.409
No cheating... no wall riding.. no shortcuts... it is possible, and the victory feels a lot better if you don't give up and cheat.
While I am happy i won... i'm slightly dissapointed with my final time. It should have been a 9'10.high.
But at the end I was sooo nervous (especially after seeing +12 on the begining of the straight) my hands got shaky and my heart was thumping so bad i totally screwed up the last sector. gave up at least 1.5-2 seconds.
When I get my DFP i'll probably have to try again... i'm pretty sure 9'09.xxx is quite do-able.
until then, if anyone wants it... there is an "almost clean" NTSC max drive replay attached. *i say almost, because as of the nerves i got off track 2 turns from the end, and even bumped the gullwing.
but up ultil then its quite good... only 1 second slower than my fastest ever run. (which i tossed in the trash in the evil bumpy pflanzgarten section)
cheers.
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Dr_Watson
Was that that bump at the crest of the hill? I ended lifting off (I know, the shame of it) and hugging the left hand kerb there. I'm not going to talk times, I'm on PAL...
It's the only car I know that does it. Must be a high power, low downforce thing...
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that jump catches me out 90% of the time. if you attack it full throttle you usually land and slide into the barrier with some immense understeer. the trick is to try and find the speed you can take the corner at full throttle and if possible full lock 
but its that and the sweeping right that looks tighter than it is, and usually gets me caught in the sandtrap. but winning is a sweet feeling, just make sure you dont do what i nearly did (got excited and didnt hold the throttle fully on the last stretch so lost some time, mind you the 300SL was still taking the second to last corner at that time
but its that and the sweeping right that looks tighter than it is, and usually gets me caught in the sandtrap. but winning is a sweet feeling, just make sure you dont do what i nearly did (got excited and didnt hold the throttle fully on the last stretch so lost some time, mind you the 300SL was still taking the second to last corner at that time
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chinko
That corner's an awkward bugger for sure. Even when you think you've got it sussed it can catch you out. Actually I was talking about a left shortly after that which drops down a steep slope and onto those flat out sweepers. In the SLR if you catch it wrong there's a bump that can kick the arse end right up in the air and pitch you into the barriers at a million miles an hour
.Goodbye sweet lap...
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FastEddie12That corner's an awkward bugger for sure. Even when you think you've got it sussed it can catch you out. Actually I was talking about a left shortly after that which drops down a steep slope and onto those flat out sweepers. In the SLR if you catch it wrong there's a bump that can kick the arse end right up in the air and pitch you into the barriers at a million miles an hour
i think i know where you mean
- 6,006
- Finland
Almost everyone seems to be saying that the PAL version is easier due to the time difference in this mission. I respect anyone who has beaten this mission regardless of the version, but it's been stated that the NTSC and PAL have slightly different physics models. The eight seconds' difference is about 1,5% of the total time, so it might be explained by the physics difference.
i know someone is going to ask whether or not I have completed this mission. Yes, I have and with a safe margin of about three seconds. (not a totally clear lap, i even passed one car on the grass)
i know someone is going to ask whether or not I have completed this mission. Yes, I have and with a safe margin of about three seconds. (not a totally clear lap, i even passed one car on the grass)
- 4,853
- Buffalo, NY
- PURE_DrWatson
FastEddie12That corner's an awkward bugger for sure. Even when you think you've got it sussed it can catch you out. Actually I was talking about a left shortly after that which drops down a steep slope and onto those flat out sweepers. In the SLR if you catch it wrong there's a bump that can kick the arse end right up in the air and pitch you into the barriers at a million miles an hour
yep.. thats exactly the section i mean.
after the jump + double apex right hander you go up hill, then a little bend left into the high speed bumpy section.
if you get it wrong going over the crest the car kicks out, spins and eats the wall at 130mph.
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Is there a difference of 8 seconds from Pal to NTSC, in the waiting time in the start?
Or both have the same 123 seconds waiting time?
Or both have the same 123 seconds waiting time?
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Dr_Watsonpal only waits 115
heh, you going to try and get to 9'09 before me.
Once i had a 9'00.9, but as my goal was zoky´s 8'57(Pal) time so i didn´t save as i want at least a 8 min time.
But mine´s NTSC. So i will do it again!
- 397
- Canada
- GTP_Ravenmaven
- "release the hounds"
Doing laps in practice mode helps. One thing to keep in mind is that the mission car is substantially less well behaved than the garage counterpart in practice mode. If you can get practice times down to the 7:08 range one should be able to clear the mission. Fangio had his best lap at the ring in the 1957 German Gran Prix setting a then track record 9:17.04 in a Maserati 250F formula one car. So really the whole idea of a 54' 300SL posting low nine minute times is bogus. Much like the whole mission.
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- Olympia, WA
- GTP_BrokenVow, zmikedz
THAT MISSION (woops) was really lame. after the first lap of taking it normal, i was like...forget this. that damn mclaren makes a good rally car ill tell you that much.
After a long long period of trying behind my DFP, and with the knowledge I was going to succeed at some stage in time (when? who knew), this evening the big moment was there... finishing in 1st place at the horrible mission 
in the famous green hell of Germany.
Btw I have the PAL version, so to everyone with the NTSC version : deep respect. 👍
For everybody who wants to know, here are my split times:
(CP1) 1.42.483
(CP2) 1.33.672
(CP3) 1.26.255
(CP4) 1.13.797
(CP5) 1.01.562
(CP6) 050.356
(CP7) 036.471
(CP8) 029.271
(CP9) 023.868
(CP10) 013.332
(CP11) 004.799
Finished in 9.15.866, just 0.543 seconds ahead of the 300SL.
Passed the SL65 in the corner at Kesselchen (at the 12KM sign);
Passed the other SL after the righthand corner Eschbach (went a bit through the grass);
Passed the EVO after the corner heading to the straight (almost lost the car in Galgenkopf)
Passed the SLK after the bridge (Antoniusbuche)
Screwed up with only 3 corners to go... but managed to keep the car under control.
Greetings to you all!! (I'm going to take the R89C for a ride...)
in the famous green hell of Germany. Btw I have the PAL version, so to everyone with the NTSC version : deep respect. 👍
For everybody who wants to know, here are my split times:
(CP1) 1.42.483
(CP2) 1.33.672
(CP3) 1.26.255
(CP4) 1.13.797
(CP5) 1.01.562
(CP6) 050.356
(CP7) 036.471
(CP8) 029.271
(CP9) 023.868
(CP10) 013.332
(CP11) 004.799
Finished in 9.15.866, just 0.543 seconds ahead of the 300SL.
Passed the SL65 in the corner at Kesselchen (at the 12KM sign);
Passed the other SL after the righthand corner Eschbach (went a bit through the grass);
Passed the EVO after the corner heading to the straight (almost lost the car in Galgenkopf)
Passed the SLK after the bridge (Antoniusbuche)
Screwed up with only 3 corners to go... but managed to keep the car under control.
Greetings to you all!! (I'm going to take the R89C for a ride...)
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Okay, i completed this mission, but I'll admit that I cheated a little. A little of wall riding and going through grass.. I just haaad to do it. I couldn't stand that little 0.2% left in the completion....
well mad props to the people who didn't cheat
well mad props to the people who didn't cheat
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jzz30degogo
Does that make you 100%? Good work, man
unless you guys are either driving purists or allergic to grass, i dont see cheating being a bad first time option, for me all it did was stop the frustration of seeing the gullwing cross the finish line by a car length or less ahead of me over and over..he ran in the LOW 9'12 range many times, which is crappy when you beat your own best time only to find out its still not enough
i mean a clean replay is nicer for sure, i wanna go back and do it the way you are supposed to, without wallriding once and cutting grass twice, but its much better to do so once you know the mission is done
i mean a clean replay is nicer for sure, i wanna go back and do it the way you are supposed to, without wallriding once and cutting grass twice, but its much better to do so once you know the mission is done
- 4,853
- Buffalo, NY
- PURE_DrWatson
if you admit you're unsatisfied with how you won... doesn't that make getting 100% kind of a hollow victory?
Life is hard, finding ways to cheat whenever you encounter something difficult isn't the most honorable way to handle adversity. i say suck it up, roll up your sleeves, and do it the way it was meant to be done, builds character.
Life is hard, finding ways to cheat whenever you encounter something difficult isn't the most honorable way to handle adversity. i say suck it up, roll up your sleeves, and do it the way it was meant to be done, builds character.
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Dr_Watson
I agree, which is why I am going to go back and do it clean at some point. It's nice to have it done, though, because it takes some of the pressure off. Also, I'd feel more guilty about cheating if the mission was reasonable. I love GT4 because of the realism, but IMHO this mission is unrealistic whether you cheat or not.
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