NASCAR 2012 Thread
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No but would you just wreck him? Name me a time this season when Clint has tried to take Jeff out on purpose? And Hamlin is allowed an opinion. Couple of those tweets are quite funny. @jahgee
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I posted that earlier
No but would you just wreck him? Name me a time this season when Clint has tried to take Jeff out on purpose? And Hamlin is allowed an opinion. Couple of those tweets are quite funny. @jahgee
Knew you would like that, I must say I would get up near the lead but ultimately wreck the Irish driver by accident repeatedly
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Speaking of Danica I wonder if she is going to wreck ol' man Burton for the season finale
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This was her last race of the season.
I'm going out on a limb here and saying she won't.
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Ironically, I remember saying when the Hornish vs Danica thing happened that someday, she will get plain punched in the face if she doesn't stop driving like a moron.
The media can ignore and deflect blame all they want, and the Nationwide guys can just ignore her. The Cup guys aren't going to deal with her crap.
The media can ignore and deflect blame all they want, and the Nationwide guys can just ignore her. The Cup guys aren't going to deal with her crap.
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Ahh, okay tez. I keep so much in my head I forget a lot of details.
As for under the radar guys today..... how bout Kasey in 4th, Biffle in 7th, Menard in 9th, and Bobby in 15th?
And I thought Clint had a shot. What happened to Jimmie could of just as easily happened to Brad, and Bowyer was only around 8 points behind Jimmie before the fight.
As for under the radar guys today..... how bout Kasey in 4th, Biffle in 7th, Menard in 9th, and Bobby in 15th?
And I thought Clint had a shot. What happened to Jimmie could of just as easily happened to Brad, and Bowyer was only around 8 points behind Jimmie before the fight.
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Kyle Busch was definitely suspended because his wreck with Hornaday happened under caution, which is a huge slap in the face to any and all views of proper sportsmanship.
If it's true that Jeff had been shown the black flag at Phoenix for failure to maintain a safe speed but stayed on the track just to carry out that intentional wreck, he should 100% definitely be subject to the same penalty.
Anyone that thinks anything else should remove their rainbow-tinted fanboy glasses and try to imagine if someone else had done this to Jeff Gordon instead. If it had been Kurt Busch on Jeff Gordon, people would be demanding that Kurt be permanently removed from all future NASCAR competition.
If it's true that Jeff had been shown the black flag at Phoenix for failure to maintain a safe speed but stayed on the track just to carry out that intentional wreck, he should 100% definitely be subject to the same penalty.
Anyone that thinks anything else should remove their rainbow-tinted fanboy glasses and try to imagine if someone else had done this to Jeff Gordon instead. If it had been Kurt Busch on Jeff Gordon, people would be demanding that Kurt be permanently removed from all future NASCAR competition.
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I don't have rainbow-tinted fanboy glasses, I have Red & Blue flamed ones
. But I wouldn't call for Kurt Busch being removed, I would just openly root against him like some people do here to a point where I wish his family nothing but suffering *coughR1600Turbocough*
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I still think you guys are over reacting about the on track incident which is making you forget that the 15 team literally attacked Gordon by his hauler. On track stuff will always happen, but what happened afterwards shouldn't be allowed...ever.
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Now that I see the replay, it looked like Gordon was going down to the pits, but Bowyer acted like a 🤬 and cut Gordon off. Gordon got pissed at Bowyer's move and spun Bowyer, claiming himself in the crash as well.
Both are at fault. Gordon for wrecking Bowyer, Bowyer for knocking Jeff into the wall and cutting him from the pits.
Both are at fault. Gordon for wrecking Bowyer, Bowyer for knocking Jeff into the wall and cutting him from the pits.
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If that was the case then the premeditation makes no sense. Unless Gustafson was making something up. Also, Bowyer would have absolutely no incentive to do that since Gordon was the one wrecked, not him. Finally, if that were the case, the 15's pit crew would not have acted as they did.
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Perhaps it could have been in the case that Bowyer got close to Gordon? As well, Gordon's car did have a blown tire, so his car is not going to be as fast as the rest of the competition.
Have you not seen the many incidents that Gordon and Bowyer have been in? I wouldn't be surprised that Bowyer was messing with Gordon. There would be no other point to go to the inside if he thought that Gordon would wreck him. Gordon had control of the inside and, had Bowyer went to the outside, Gordon may not have wrecked him, and Bowyer could have got a run on that area of the track.
Yes they would have. They attacked Gordon's crew because Gordon wrecked Bowyer.
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This might be a plausible interpretation of events, but the post-race comments from both drivers (skip to 1:27) and teams make it obvious that Gordon was planning to wreck Bowyer all along. And remember, he was still fighting for position, and was trying to rack up as many points as possible so that he would have a fighting chance at finishing second in the points. He had no incentive to try to show up Gordon in the final laps of the race when it would cost him positions.
Oh, come on. You know better than this. If Bowyer had gone around the outside, Gordon would have turned the wheel to the right and drove him into the wall. He tried to go to the inside because his crew had warned him that Gordon was planning retaliation, and he thought he could surprise Gordon by going beneath him.
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Yeah, because that everyone has to see everything the same way.
Bowyer could have got a faster run on the outside than he could to the inside of Gordon, so why the hell would Bowyer make that move? Again, from my point of view I saw that he tried to cut Gordon off from pit road. Gordon got PO'd and wrecked Bowyer (and himself) in the process. No other logical explanation for that. Also, Gordon's left front tire was cut, which means that all of that torn up rubber on that tire would make the car's weight shift towards the left front of the car since there is little to support that weight, making it harder to turn right.
Yet again, that's from my point of view. I'm not going to attack somebody for disagreeing, everyone has the right to agree or disagree.
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Honestly yes I do. Jimmie was leading before his wreck by 1-2 points and then took a HUGE hit in the points so back to 20 points which can be made up. Now after all that drama unfolded, Clint was around 21-24 points back and JJ was like 19 points back. The huge point swing for Jimmie just goes to show anything can happen honestly because who really knows how a race will play out. It's a somewhat of a long shot but did anyone expect Jimmie to have issues like he did?
If Jeff did ignore his black flag just to take Bowyer out then Nascar has to step in and take action because it's uncalled for. If you want to fight then do it outside the cars not with them or ruin others races. People give Kurt a bad rap even with all his actions but if it's a golden boy like Jeff it seems to not be nearly the issue.
How are we overreacting? If any race car driver uses his car to make a point by wrecking another drive or anything other than just flat out racing then I think officials need to have a meeting with that driver and a fine. I don't have any problems with drivers getting mad on the radio and venting or saying things, or even after a race getting out and handling the situation as far as fight or words. You tear up cars because your mad only hurts your team who put in long hours to build those cars and now have to fix them. It shows no respect to me. Bowyer's crew never got to Jeff nor did anyone but that situation will be handled, It is what it is.
The more I have watched the replay the more I think Bowyer might have been a little unsure. It looks like he ran up on Jeff faster than he thought with Joey having a huge run on the outside so he just was going to split him. The thing is so far we really have no clue if Jeff ment to serve his flag or really was waiting for him. The whole situation seems weird to a degree too and if Jeff was so pissed off then I think he needed to chill first. I never saw Clint run all over him this race but it's hard racing and shouldn't expect someone at a shorter track not to maybe rub you a little or pull over for you.
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